mzmolly
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Thu Nov-04-04 02:13 PM
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Did Kerry concede quickly partially because of Elizabeth Edwards illness? |
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Edited on Thu Nov-04-04 02:24 PM by mzmolly
It makes sense in a way because Edwards urged Kerry to fight on and Kerry said "I don't want to divide the country." My guess is that Edwards said "please don't let this effect your decision, but Kerry, being the stand up guy he is replied as I stated.
The reason I say this is several fold.
First his concession speech seemed a bit like he wanted to fight and knew he let us down, but there was a reason he couldn't share. It wasn't like him to concede so early, given what he knows about the Rethuglican Party. Why not wait a few days right?
Kerry also mentioned Elizabeth specifically and very fondly in his speech.
I really think they knew something shortly before election day, and Kerry didn't want to put the families through a court battle along with battling cancer given the likely outcome of the election.
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Thu Nov-04-04 02:15 PM
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1. it would sort of explain why Edwards has been low profile |
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Thu Nov-04-04 02:17 PM
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5. Lump was found only last week.... |
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My guess is Edwards was "low profile" because the Corporate Media didn't want a charismatic, good looking VP candidate on television and refused to really cover his events.
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Thu Nov-04-04 02:21 PM
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7. Edwards has been out campaigning as has his wife. |
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Thu Nov-04-04 02:21 PM
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8. Edwards has been out campaigning as has his wife. |
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Thu Nov-04-04 02:34 PM
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16. Edwards was not low profile, the media just didn't report his |
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appearances because he was so likeable - hell, they barely reported Kerry's.
Edwards and his wife both campaigned in several states for months!
Low profile, my a**. Welcome to DU, now you have access to what is really going on in this world.
This place will provide you with links to reports of the facts the media fails to report and the admin hides from us!
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Thu Nov-04-04 05:58 PM
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28. you are absolutely right... |
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but it did seem like I saw a lot more videotaped pieces of Edwards, rather than live rallies.
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Thu Nov-04-04 02:15 PM
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2. I very seriously doubt it - and I doubt that she would have let him. |
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Thu Nov-04-04 02:17 PM
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4. Edwards urged Kerry to fight and he gently declined. |
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I think this was a partial reason.
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Thu Nov-04-04 02:17 PM
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3. Personal issues that are only temporary or |
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not a life and death crisis should never affect the decision weather or not to count the votes for the U.S Presidency!
I hope he does not try and hide under this veil...it would be a disgrace.
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Thu Nov-04-04 02:19 PM
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6. You must be kidding? I think the primary reason that he didn't fight |
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Edited on Thu Nov-04-04 02:19 PM by mzmolly
was because of the numbers, but he may have fought on were it not for this illness?
The votes are being counted!
I don't think it was the PRIMARY reason, but a secondary one.
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Thu Nov-04-04 02:54 PM
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21. Early detection of breast cancer is a good sign.... |
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Treatment is highly successful. It's not a dooms day diagnosis at this point. I know many woment who do chemo and work a full time job.
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Thu Nov-04-04 02:21 PM
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9. It really makes you wonder. |
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That's the kind of person Kerry is--compassionate.
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Thu Nov-04-04 02:21 PM
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10. she waited to have the biopsy so as to not interfere with 11/2 |
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so I doubt she would have "allowed" him to concede on her behalf. She sounds like a fighter, passionate for our causes.
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Thu Nov-04-04 02:23 PM
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12. Edwards urged Kerry to fight on, but he declined saying he didn't |
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want to divide the nation.
I think the decision was two fold?
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Thu Nov-04-04 02:21 PM
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11. I don't think that's it. |
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Not that I have anything to support this feeling, but I doubt that was the reason.
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Thu Nov-04-04 02:23 PM
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13. I think it was a partial reason? |
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Thu Nov-04-04 02:24 PM
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But there might be more going on here then we'll ever know.
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Thu Nov-04-04 02:27 PM
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I think he knew we lost. The provisional ballots are being counted, if they come in different, Ohio will record the vote as a Kerry win and the electoral college will vote for the President accordingly. I don't know what else he could have done. I would bet there are people looking over all the voting with a fine tooth comb, regardless of outward appearances.
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Thu Nov-04-04 02:36 PM
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17. It makes sense to me! He knows they have been through a lot! |
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The plane troubles during his campaign, it all makes sense.
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Thu Nov-04-04 02:41 PM
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18. I'm sorry to say but, I'm afraid that Kerry was in on the fix. |
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Thu Nov-04-04 02:42 PM
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Thu Nov-04-04 02:52 PM
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20. I could well be wrong. However, the Skull and Bones connection |
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always worried me plus some very counterproductive comments he made during the campaign. In any event, I would have much preferred that he won the contest simply because of the party affiliation.
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Thu Nov-04-04 06:02 PM
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29. Are you aware that most of the Skulls and Bones propaganda that was |
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posted here at DU was put up by a person who unveiled as a freeper the other night?
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Thu Nov-04-04 06:53 PM
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31. I have read no information about s and k on Du but have |
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read numerous articles and papers on the organization. There have also been several books on the subject. The S and K is a very unsavory organization based on the info I've seen. If you think they're just another fun frat, that's your prerogative.
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Thu Nov-04-04 06:20 PM
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that skull & bones crap! give me a break.
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Thu Nov-04-04 06:54 PM
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32. Is your assignment to defend the S & K ? |
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Thu Nov-04-04 07:03 PM
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33. No, I just think you are here trying to stir up junk! |
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I will defend John Kerry to the bitter end. I am not happy he conceded so earlier, but that does not mean I am going to try to put him down as some insider with the evil admin.
No human being would put themselves or their families through the physical and emotion trials of the campaign for over 600 days just to throw it at the end. If you think he did, then you are not very bright. :silly:
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Thu Nov-04-04 07:29 PM
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34. I said that I was afraid he was in on the fix. I would have been |
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more precise if I had said that he MIGHT be in on the fix. There were many times during the campaign that he said such counterproductive remarks, and there was his college affiliation with Bush, and other things. As for putting your family through 600 days stuff, please. If the stakes are "who is going to run the world", 600 days of campaigning are no major sacrifice.
Now, if the S and K planted them both in the campaign, the fix could have been to cover their odds with candidates on both sides. Their agenda might have been different than the Republican one.
I happen to believe that the Republican operation is nothing less than a major criminal enterprise. I believe that they would stop at nothing to achieve their goals.
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Thu Nov-04-04 07:52 PM
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35. I believe in John Kerry and his efforts. |
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I don't disagree that the BFEE is a criminal enterprise that will stop at nothing, like stealing this election AGAIN!
John Kerry took them on before - you apparently do not know his back ground. I suggest that you do some research and stop smearing a good man. What are you a swiftie????
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Thu Nov-04-04 03:05 PM
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An illness of a VP candidates wife wouldn't make anyone concede. I really love Elisabeth but she is only peripheral in the scheme of things. You are saying Kerry would throw away the entire US along with all those women who have breat cancer and no insurance because Eliabeth is sick? He really would be pathetic then. No there is something else here and I don't think we are quite done .Wait for Dec.8th. The black caucus is going to protest agin and they need only one senator.
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Thu Nov-04-04 03:14 PM
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24. Did you see where I said "partial" consideration? |
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I think being short of votes is THE reason, but I don't doubt he would have weighed his options longer if...
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Thu Nov-04-04 03:10 PM
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23. Kerry is a cancer survivor. He would not have let it change his mind. nt |
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Thu Nov-04-04 03:15 PM
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25. I don't think he changed his mind, I think it was a partial consideration. |
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Thu Nov-04-04 03:19 PM
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26. He wanted to go down in history with a catchy nickname |
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Cave-in Kerry, kinda like dug-out Doug. Its cute, don't you think.
Disclaimer - Yeah, the early concession thing rankles me, because it takes the attention away from electoral fraud. Now we will never be sure how much was fraud and how much was religious fundamentalism.
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