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Tamyrlin79 Donating Member (944 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 08:01 PM
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Fly the Rebel Flag!
Edited on Thu Nov-04-04 08:03 PM by Tamyrlin79
The battle lines being drawn in this election are civil war era lines, as pointed out in a previous thread. I say that it would totally fuck with conservative southerner's heads if WE started flying a rebel flag as a symbol of resistance to the CURRENT federal government which THEY control. I think it would turn some heads in a "What the FUCK???" kind of way....Might get them to identify with us a bit more, too, by using symbolism they can understand. We could take it from the KKK and the Dixiecrats and redefine the symbol's meaning. Perhaps even remove the racist stigma that goes with it.

Or, Perhaps a reversed colors flag, with red bars on a blue field to draw a slight distinction, though? *shrug* I think it'd be fun, and it WOULD get attention. Free press. :-)
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 08:02 PM
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1. Hey, why not the swastika whle we're at it.
:eyes:
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Tamyrlin79 Donating Member (944 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 08:05 PM
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4. I'm talking about redefining it, not converting to racism...
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 08:13 PM
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14. Well sure, lets redefine the swastika while we're at it.
From now on it means rebellion and pride in one's rich german heritage.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 08:14 PM
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15. we could raise funds
by selling Bush t-shirts! Wow!
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 08:03 PM
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2. Rebel flag for the times:
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Carl Yasutomo Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 10:32 PM
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27. Your flag is missing the Enron logo
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manic expression Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 08:04 PM
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3. The Confederate flag
represents slavery and state's rights. That's it.
If you want to show a sign of resistance, fly a red flag or something like that.
Does anyone know a flag of resistance?
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Tamyrlin79 Donating Member (944 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 08:07 PM
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6. Red flag = communism.
I'm just saying that Southerners like to claim it is "heritage, not hate" and that it represents a rebellious spirit. I'm just saying use this.

I'm just trying to help here. You've GOT to reconnect with these people if you are going to convey your message to them and pry them away from the fascists. Speak in their language. I'm sorry if it "dirties" your hands to use their language and symbolism, but you need to get over it if you hope to restore the country.
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manic expression Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 08:11 PM
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11. I would sooner die than use
a sign of racism. I'm sorry but that is what it is. Even if they claim it is "heritage, not hate" (yeah right), that means the heritage (slave owner's heritage) of the south, so it represents the south to them. I like the idea of the Gadsen flag that was posted below. Also, the socialist flag (red) represents the power of the people. I think that is a good message.
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 11:24 PM
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32. Need to get over it?
Let me make myself very clear. I'm from the South, born and raised. I'm a male. And the Confederate Flag, ought to be burned. Is 'at clear 'nuff for ya.
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BlackVelvetElvis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 08:07 PM
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5. I prefer this one.

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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 08:08 PM
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7. That's the Gadsden Flag
I fly that one myself
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BlackVelvetElvis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 08:09 PM
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9. I'm going to get one of these.
Says it all and doesn't hurt others.
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FarLeftRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 08:09 PM
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8. Yep, that's the one
I fly high and mighty...

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Tamyrlin79 Donating Member (944 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 08:36 PM
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20. I like this one... appeals to our memories of the Revolution... very good.
I like this idea. I also like using an altered version of it, like with a blue field.

I also like the idea of using an ALTERED version of the confederate flag, a version that is meant to say "the rebellion part, without the racism"...
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 11:21 PM
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31. Go here and learn all about the flag and also order it.
www.americalivefree.org

The flag basically means FUCK YOU, KING GEORGE!
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Abelman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 08:10 PM
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10. What about
"Don't Tread on Me" on a blue field, denoting the party color?

Underneath an upside down US flag, the symbol of distress?

I like it. Mostly because it was my idea...mostly. Okay, maybe just the blue flag part was mine.
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BlackVelvetElvis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 08:12 PM
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12. Damn. That's good!
Edited on Thu Nov-04-04 08:12 PM by BlackVelvetElvis
We need symbols to rally around right now.
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Dob Bole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 08:12 PM
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13. I like the reversed flag idea...
The original Confederate flag didn't have racist connotations...but Scottish ones. Let's steal it back!
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yorgatron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 08:14 PM
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16. skull and crossbones for me.
:mad:
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 08:15 PM
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17. I fly the PEACE flag or did until someone stole it.
:grr: I have more on order and will cement it to my house. The Peace Flag pisses off Republicans.
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Menshevik Donating Member (674 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 08:31 PM
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18. Someone STOLE your PEACE FLAG???
god, repubs are ridiculous
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 10:01 PM
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24. Yup, they sure did.
So, I ordered 3 more and this time I will cement it to the bracket and cement the clips that hold the flag on the pole. If they find a way to take it, I'll just keep putting up a new one. I knew a repuke would steal it when I put it up. They REALLY hate that flag. That's why I put it up. :evilgrin:
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Abelman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 08:36 PM
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19. Like this:



Oh, MS Paint! Why must thou suck so?
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HappinessPie Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 08:39 PM
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21. Love it -- hey, do you want me to do it in Photoshop?
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Abelman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 10:05 PM
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25. Of course
It would probably be way better.
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bonddad Donating Member (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 08:40 PM
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22. Atrios: Tax Fairness Act or Ending Redstate Welfare
I suggest the Democrats first major legislative proposal, complete with press conferences, laser show, hunger strike, whatever, is the "Tax Fairness Act of 2005." This Act would mandate that, within some reasonable margin of error, your state should get as much back from the feds as is sent to them in taxes. It's time to end this kind of geographic welfare

http://atrios.blogspot.com/
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Dob Bole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 09:00 PM
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23. Your wish is my command...the Buck Fush Flag!!!


(When the bandwidth runs out there, get it here:www.freddieodom.com/ buckfushflag.jpg)
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alphafemale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 11:27 PM
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33. How about little donkeys instead of stars?
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 10:11 PM
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26. The flag
of the original colonies (13 stars in a circle with the stripes below). Why not? We're having to fight for the same things all over again.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 10:44 PM
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28. How bout the UN flag?
We have a neighbor that flies it. :shrug:
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lanparty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 10:56 PM
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29. If black folks can ...

If black folks can call each other niggers, I can fly a rebel flag.

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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 11:17 PM
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30. I'd be mech more comforable with this Rebel flag
Edited on Thu Nov-04-04 11:18 PM by baldguy
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Abelman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 01:06 AM
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36. That's awesome.
nt
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nemo137 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 01:02 AM
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34. Reversed-color battle flag features in a scary Alternate History series
About a future where the Union lost the Civil War, and keeps getting beat by the South until 1918 - the great war. After the South's defeat, a nazi-type party, the "Freedom Party" emerges, using a reversed colors battleflag as their symbol.

Maybe it's a bit obscure, but I'd rather not be associated with that.

All in all, I'd recommend reading those books, btw. It's by Harry Turtledove, and the series starts with a book called "How Few Remain."
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AnnitaR Donating Member (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 01:05 AM
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35. This says it all for me:
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FeelinGarfunkelly Donating Member (294 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 01:06 AM
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37. Sherffius is so great. I wish the StL Post-Dispatch kept him.
n/t
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ejcastellanos Donating Member (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 01:15 AM
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38. My flag is an inverted Old Glory
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