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BayCityProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 09:55 PM
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Gay marriage
Ok I feel bad. I am gay and I feel partially responsible for this loss. Evangelicals turned out in their full number to vote against Kerry just because of civil unions and not OKing the gay marriage constitutional amendment. So why dont the democrats just endorse gay marriage and make their base happy? As we have seen, the party has lost the issue already. Even if they just back domestic partnerships these hate filled monsters turn out in full force. So why not just support the real thing..they will vote against us either way.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 09:58 PM
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1. I want to point out -
you are confused. There was no amendment to O'key gay marriage. The amendment was to prohibit gay marriage, and it passed in 11 states. The religious folks showed up in drove so they can prohibit gays to marry.
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CornField Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 09:59 PM
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2. Our rights as Americans are not dependent on approval from others...
We have those rights because we are Americans.

Chin up.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 10:02 PM
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3. i don't see what people have against gay maraige, it's not hurting you
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BayCityProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 10:25 PM
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4. i know it was to prohibit marriage
i worded it poorly
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Abelman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 10:29 PM
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5. My view
I guess I just see marriage as a religious argument.

I personally don't think the government should define or recognize marriage at all, be it between man and man, woman and woman, or man and woman.

I say civil unions for all, and let the peoples religions decide if they are married.
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 10:32 PM
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6. I've posted this so many times I'm getting tired of reading
it myself, but no one has replied. Why doesn't someone write a bill that would give gays ALL the rights of marriage without calling it a marriage. I feel the gays are being bullheaded about being able to use that word (and they could for all anybody would care) and the religious people get their hackles up just thinking gays can be married. This seems so simple to me because what would the argument against allowing them full rights without the word "married" be? It doesn't affect anyone but the 2 people involved. WHAT'S THE BIG DAMN DEAL WITH THE WORD????
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queerart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 10:42 PM
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7. gays are being bullheaded
Yeah..... can you believe that?

Who do they think they are, wanting to use a "word" that all reasonable people would agree is the property of Hetrosexuals?

American citizens?

I Mean Really..........

Queers need to learn their rightful place in the world, Damn Uppity Homos...

That's what I think!


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UNIXcock Donating Member (464 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 10:44 PM
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8. Go easy on yourself
... we're all in this together
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