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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 10:25 PM
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Hack The Vote- Paul Krugman
Edited on Thu Nov-04-04 10:26 PM by cryingshame
OP-ED COLUMNIST
Hack the Vote
By PAUL KRUGMAN

Published: December 2, 2003
E-mail: krugman@nytimes.com

Inviting Bush supporters to a fund-raiser, the host wrote, "I am committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year." No surprise there. But Walden O'Dell — who says that he wasn't talking about his business operations — happens to be the chief executive of Diebold Inc., whose touch-screen voting machines are in increasingly widespread use across the United States.

For example, Georgia — where Republicans scored spectacular upset victories in the 2002 midterm elections — relies exclusively on Diebold machines. To be clear, though there were many anomalies in that 2002 vote, there is no evidence that the machines miscounted. But there is also no evidence that the machines counted correctly. You see, Diebold machines leave no paper trail.

Representative Rush Holt of New Jersey, who has introduced a bill requiring that digital voting machines leave a paper trail and that their software be available for public inspection, is occasionally told that systems lacking these safeguards haven't caused problems. "How do you know?" he asks.

What we do know about Diebold does not inspire confidence. The details are technical, but they add up to a picture of a company that was, at the very least, extremely sloppy about security, and may have been trying to cover up product defects.

Early this year Bev Harris, who is writing a book on voting machines, found Diebold software — which the company refuses to make available for public inspection, on the grounds that it's proprietary — on an unprotected server, where anyone could download it. (The software was in a folder titled "rob-Georgia.zip.") The server was used by employees of Diebold Election Systems to update software on its machines. This in itself was an incredible breach of security, offering someone who wanted to hack into the machines both the information and the opportunity to do so.

An analysis of Diebold software by researchers at Johns Hopkins and Rice Universities found it both unreliable and subject to abuse. A later report commissioned by the state of Maryland apparently reached similar conclusions. (It's hard to be sure because the state released only a heavily redacted version.)

Meanwhile, leaked internal Diebold e-mail suggests that corporate officials knew their system was flawed, and circumvented tests that would have revealed these problems. The company hasn't contested the authenticity of these documents; instead, it has engaged in legal actions to prevent their dissemination.

snip

But there's nothing paranoid about suggesting that political operatives, given the opportunity, might engage in dirty tricks. Indeed, given the intensity of partisanship these days, one suspects that small dirty tricks are common. For example, Orrin Hatch, the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, recently announced that one of his aides had improperly accessed sensitive Democratic computer files that were leaked to the press.

This admission — contradicting an earlier declaration by Senator Hatch that his staff had been cleared of culpability — came on the same day that the Senate police announced that they were hiring a counterespionage expert to investigate the theft. Republican members of the committee have demanded that the expert investigate only how those specific documents were leaked, not whether any other breaches took place. I wonder why.

The point is that you don't have to believe in a central conspiracy to worry that partisans will take advantage of an insecure, unverifiable voting system to manipulate election results. Why expose them to temptation?

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wurzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 10:29 PM
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1. This has to be said by a Dem leader. Not a columnist.
Otherwise it will just be another academic exercise.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 10:31 PM
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3. There Is A Vacuum Right Now... Someone Has To Fill It
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wurzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 10:40 PM
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4. I am complaining about the vacuum. Not Krugman. He is right!!
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 10:29 PM
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2. Krugman is LORD. Thank you Paul Krugman. Inspirational.
Corporate America controls the media and we get manufactured news.
Corporate America now controls the voting machines and we get manufactured elections.


http://www.blackboxvoting.org/
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wurzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 10:43 PM
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5. Corporate America controls our politicians
and we get manufactured morality.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 11:11 PM
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10. Oh so right!
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countmyvote4real Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 10:51 PM
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7. And a lot of death has been outsourced to Iraq. 4what? n/t
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 11:14 PM
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12. Wow!
Important soundbite of the night!

"Corporate America controls the media and we get manufactured news.
Corporate America now controls the voting machines and we get manufactured elections"


Fuckin' "will of the people" bush and his manufactured "win"!
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 10:47 PM
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6. Krugman rocks!
I want to carry this man's children!!!! :o
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lanparty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 10:53 PM
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8. We need to PROVE that the machines are unreliable !!!!

How????

We should hack them anonymously. We should throw a Democratic candidate in some wild unbelievable victory margin in a Democratic county when the vote SHOULD be close!!!!

The Republicans success so far is based on their coiness in keeping the vote CLOSE!!! They kept is SO close that they had to add 16,000 votes to Bush's total in Volusia county 2000.

We need to blow it out of the water by doing the fraud and then FORCING Republicans into a position where they need to prove the fraud.

We'll take a short term hit!!! But will ultimately save Democracy. It's like cutting off a toe to save your foot!!!!

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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 11:19 PM
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13. How about just a simple receipt like an ATM machine spits out?
BBV doesn't even offer this.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 11:28 PM
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14. We Need A Legal Ballot That Counts, Not Just A "Reciept'
:)
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unkachuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 11:39 PM
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15. exactly...
....you must fill out the ballot and then the machine counts them....otherwise it could be tallying one way on the inside, while you think it tallyed accurately by your 'fake' receipt....
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lanparty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:20 PM
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16. Receipts do not produce an audit trail ...

Look at the trash can near an ATM. That is where most of the receipts go!!! You cannot AUDIT using that. Nor can you assure that whats printed on the receipt matches whats recorded in the database.

The solution is to remove the database. The machines should produce a printed paper ballot. That ballot is authenticated by voters behind plexiglass. If the voter accepts it, it is automatically deposited in a ballot box. If the voter REJECTS it, it is marked as spoiled and is deposited in a clear box of rejects.

The key is that the BALLOT must be the ultimate authority, not a database that can be changed AT WILL with no evidence to show it!!!!

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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:24 PM
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17. Sheetz convenience stores give a little receipt when you order a sandwich
plus print one for the food preparation people.
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KitSileya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:32 PM
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19. Because those receipts aren't the real votes.
Edited on Fri Nov-05-04 12:34 PM by KitSileya
The screen might say you voted for Kerry, and the receipt may say the same, but the machine might actually tally your vote for *. Unless the election is too close to call, or fall within the state-mandated margin, (or in the case of Florida, never) those receipt will be tossed out unchecked. They're only good for a recount, not for the count.

Edited to correct code
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emalejim Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 10:58 PM
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9. Statewide initiatives and propositions>>>>
Easy to do. Sit and gather signatures and put on ballot. Stating that electronic voting needs to be gone or paper trail or any method to secure votes...
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 11:12 PM
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11. We all know Paul Krugman is not
a "conspiracy theorist" ..don't we?

This is just starting folks..somebody has to start it!
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:26 PM
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18. LINK?
I would like to read the whole story, if possible. Thanks!
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Justice Freedom Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 02:01 PM
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20. hmmm....
I assume votes are counted both by machine and by hand, just for security... If they're only counted by the machines, then this election is indeed a joke:
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Findings: The GEMS central tabulator program is incorrectly designed and highly vulnerable to fraud. Election results can be changed in a matter of seconds. Part of the program we examined appears to be designed with election tampering in mind. We have also learned that election officials maintain inadequate controls over access to the central tabulator. We need to beef up procedures to mitigate risks...

Diebold claimed its voting system was secure. It is, in fact, highly vulnerable to and appears to be designed for fraud....

It takes only seconds to change the votes, and to date not a single location in the U.S. has implemented security measures to fully mitigate the risks. It is not too late to do so, and the corrective measures are relatively simple.



How and when did the double set of books get into GEMS?

Black Box Voting has traced the implementation of the double set of books to Oct. 13, 2000, shortly after embezzler Jeffrey Dean became the senior programmer. Dean was hired as Vice President of Research and Development in September 2000, and his access to the programs is well documented through internal memos from Diebold. The double set of books appeared in GEMS version 1.17.7.

Almost immediately, according to the Diebold memos, another Diebold programmer, Dmitry Papushin, flagged a problem with bogus votes appearing in the vote tables. The double set of books remained, though, going through several tweaks and refinements. From the time Jeffrey Dean was hired in September, until shortly before the Nov. 2000 election, GEMS went through over a dozen changes, all retaining the new hidden vote tables.

For four years, anyone who has known how to trigger the double set of books has been able to use, or sell, the information to anyone they want.

the GEMS central tabulator system that counts approximately 50 percent of the votes in the election, in 30 states, both paper ballot and touch screen.
Elections were run on this tamper-inviting system for more than three years, and anyone who knew could sell the vote-tampering secrets to anyone they wanted to, at any time.

Whether you vote absentee, on touch-screens, or on paper ballot (fill in the bubble) optical scan machines, all votes are ultimately brought to the "mother ship," the central tabulator at the county which adds them all up and creates the results report.

These systems are used in over 30 states and each counts up to two million votes at once.

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from blackboxvoting.org, IIRC, a few months ago.
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