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flowomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:44 AM
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Krugman: stand and fight:
(snip) President Bush isn't a conservative. He's a radical - the leader of a coalition that deeply dislikes America as it is. Part of that coalition wants to tear down the legacy of Franklin Roosevelt, eviscerating Social Security and, eventually, Medicare. Another part wants to break down the barriers between church and state. And thanks to a heavy turnout by evangelical Christians, Mr. Bush has four more years to advance that radical agenda.

Democrats are now, understandably, engaged in self-examination. But while it's O.K. to think things over, those who abhor the direction Mr. Bush is taking the country must maintain their intensity; they must not succumb to defeatism.

This election did not prove the Republicans unbeatable. Mr. Bush did not win in a landslide. Without the fading but still potent aura of 9/11, when the nation was ready to rally around any leader, he wouldn't have won at all. And future events will almost surely offer opportunities for a Democratic comeback. (snip)

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/05/opinion/05krugman.html?ei=5006&en=abb533bc6cfdc7c7&ex=1100235600&partner=ALTAVISTA1&pagewanted=print&position=
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:49 AM
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1. Thank you, Paul Krugman....
This soft-spoken man speaks with power...
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fearnobush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:53 AM
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2. We will fight to the bitter end. We will, like our great soldiers, die for
our country. If that means fighting Mr. Anti-Christ Bush... so be it. I want to enact the death penalty for election fraud.
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jean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:58 AM
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3. Radical - the Radical Right - Krugmann is using the same words Lakoff
wants us to adopt. These people are RADICAL, are trying to re-write the Constitution and go against basic American beliefs and values.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 01:55 AM
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13. Well yes they are. Do you see any different from any nut group?
We are being taken over by the 'far out' of the Church groups and neo-cons. What can one say. It just does not seem so bad yet to people. We had the same type people going crazy over the "Reds" at one time. I am not sure why at times these type people get ahold of so much power, but they do. Nixon sort of rode the Red business into high office and was always seeing them under every bed. I am 70 so I lived that age also and this seems a lot like that age. All the anti-Am. if you do not do just what these people want. The endless arms spending. The war group going to fight every place. I think that was when they came out with the papers you had to sign to get jobs.It was Godless Reds then. I also think these men got in with large counts in the college vote but someone would need to look that up. We used to watch congress when we came home from high school. It was one crazy time. John Birch groups.Army is Japan and Germany. Navy in every open Port over seas and they had better let us in in those days. We voters seem to let it happen for some odd reason until some people finally start to say things. Margaret Chase Smith of Maine was one of the first to start to talk about how crazy it was.
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 01:03 AM
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4. Thank You!
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 01:10 AM
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5. Is he aware of who owns the vote counting machines?
Has he ever written an article on it? I'd love to see him focus his laser beam on that issue.

If he already has can someone post a link?

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progressivedancer Donating Member (115 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 01:20 AM
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7. BUMP
you guys i think Krugman is so right. We can have a few days to mourn here, but afterwards we need to sound the horns of battle. We can no longer make concessions- please.

Dear Administrator, is there anyway we can make a rallying call for unity in this forum. I want to know if we are all on the same page so that we may fight more effectively next time.
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 01:21 AM
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8. He most certainly has!
Do a google search, I believe there is a website of archived Krugman articles, I just don't have the link handy.

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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 01:41 AM
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12. Thanks! - I did find the one he did on Diebold - but I was kind of hoping
for something along the lines of
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0225-05.htm
where all the various far right corporate ownership dots are connected.
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frank frankly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 01:33 AM
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10. yes he wrote about it
krugman is one of the best
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gumby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 01:19 AM
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6. It;s just amazing
that this sort-of-conservative economist has become the conscious of this nation.

Krugman went far beyond his previous public self to steadfastly and courageously engage in his civic duty.

He is truly an American Hero.
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pabloseb Donating Member (510 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 01:30 AM
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9. Thank you Mr Krugman!

Is there any way to make this column a permanten part of DU?
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 01:36 AM
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11. I'm done examining the invisible
The party is all Daschle all the time as far as this trust in stealth strategy goes, or to be more exact. this is the biggest investment of mine in trust that somebody "up there" knew and was doing something kind of basic. What we saw is what we got and we DID know better than what we saw. We felt powerless to do otherwise and our INTERNET contributions of activism etc. was channeled into a stupefied system. We invested hope that was roundly disappointed.

Behind the stealth there was nothing. It would have been more third world of us to call out fraud and withdraw our candidates from the process. But as in any other such demeaning behavior, that practice worldwide cannot even enter the first stage of conception in our leadership.

Either the election was rigged- which none of them will say and therefore they are doomed.

Or their whole DLC approach has failed and they are doomed.

I didn't ask them to be doomed. I don't particularly think anyone can support a party that is doomed. Sort of defeats the purpose.

I don't want to ignore the logic and believe in stealth, silence, myths and die a slave, go like a buffoon into the night like Daschle, like many self-immolated fine men of principle and character.

F that. Let's get back to the grass roots. This election, we know, didn't really happen in the first place. I feel strangely better being crazy and American again. That feels better because the biggest fool you know is the one looking at you in the mirror. That is worth laughing at.

Petition to get rid of touch screens. Build a coalition. Destroy their confidence game and the arrogant DNC old hat timidity.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 02:17 AM
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14. Paul Krugman's Op-Eds got me through the last 4 years
Unless NYT stops him, he'll help get me through the next.
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