A parting thought for the night

[Valerie5555]

I couldn't help but think of how Thursday was the 24th anniversary of the "Get Carter," election and I couldn't help but wonder what if Americans actually gave then President Carter an "E" for effort in trying to get those hostages in Iran, out of Iran by voting him in again.


In speaking of President Carter,I couldn't help but think it would be ironic if he ended up having to supervise elections in his own country.

[Sapphocrat]

1. Ah, but, Val...

Jimmuh never stood a chance against the Reagan/Bush I Iran-Contra October Surprise.

Of course, those of us who were around at the time weren't aware of how it really went down. What stuck in everybody's head at the time was that Carter A) "failed" by diplomatic efforts, and B) f'd up royally by sending in a covert mission to take the hostages back -- and the helicopter crashed, killing (I think) 8 of our guys. That made for a HUGE turning point in public opinion against Carter (like, as if he'd been at the controls of the bloody chopper!).

Mind you, I do NOT see Jimmy Carter as a failure, in any way at all. I respect that beautiful, loving, decent, caring, REAL Democrat more than I do any other president in my lifetime. I'm just trying to re-create what the mood was like in 1980.

Worse, Carter was discredited by the Rising Radical Right not only for his alleged "failure" with the Iran Hostage Crisis, but he was made out to be "that stupid peanut farmer" -- when in truth, he is inarguably THE smartest man ever to occupy the White House (Bill Clinton, Rhodes scholar, included).

Bottom line: He would never get an "E" for Effort from the American people for anything. The 'Puke machine destroyed his credibility.

(Extra credit: Now we all know how Reagan/Bush I screwed Jimmy on the hostage crisis... so how many of you think maybe, just maybe, that helicopter crash wasn't exactly an accident?)

[grace0418]

2. Jimmy Carter is a good and decent man

100x the man any of those pigs could ever hope to be.

[JSJ]

3. yah, yah- he only signed off on operation condor

[Sapphocrat]

4. Amen, sister!

Would that I could be half the person Jimmy is.