Bullshot
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Fri Nov-05-04 07:09 AM
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Church collections decline as unemployment and under-employment rises. |
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Do you think these churches who lobbied hard for Bush's re-election will make the connection?
I'm speaking from experience. My wife is a business manager for a local church. Many jobs have left the county in the last four years, and the collections have declined. It's getting to the point where they're going to have to make some very difficult cuts because their reserves are exhausted.
I can't believe it's any different with other area churches experiencing the same thing with their local job picture. Will the pastors of these churches re-think their campaigning during this election? Or, will they think their parishioners are going to have to just dig deeper in spite of their current economic situations?
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Fri Nov-05-04 07:10 AM
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I'm not really feeling any sympathy for anyone at the moment, especially out of work fundies.
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Fri Nov-05-04 09:39 AM
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Fri Nov-05-04 07:18 AM
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2. No matter how you cut it |
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10% of nothing is still nothing.
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Fri Nov-05-04 07:24 AM
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to their way of thinking because the whole rest of the world is "persecuting" them for continuing to stand by the "man of God."
That is the reason they will give for the economy tanking. That and Clinton's penis. And abortion. And gay marriage. And ... and ... etc., etc.
I am serious. I belong to a Southern Baptist Church. People are encouraged to have a persecution complex. I myself don't have one.
But I see it in others. It is a cult-induced mental illness. A lot of them feel left out if they don't feel they are being persecuted because there is persecution of the saints all through the Bible.
When you live in the Bible Belt, it is a stretch even for these cultists to be able rationally (not that anything in their thinking is all that rational) to claim persecution. So this is an opportunity for them.
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Fri Nov-05-04 07:46 AM
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Man of God Bush is an angel of light. Jesus said in the end times many will come in my name deceiving many. Jesus was talking to the church. The church helps no one but their own pockets. Man of God? Fact Bush is a liar, all liars will have their part in the lake of fire. Fact Bush is prideful remember pride cometh before a fall, I can't wait. the only thing innocent people suffer.:evilgrin:
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Fri Nov-05-04 07:24 AM
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4. Well who will be left to feed the poor? |
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Fri Nov-05-04 08:36 AM
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11. Not My Problem Either |
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We have to stop giving money.....this country is going to look like downtown Bombay.
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Fri Nov-05-04 09:42 AM
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15. STOP GIVING MONEY. That's my attitude today. WHO CARES? |
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I sure don't care enough to give any money to ANY group who helped this come about.
On that not, I noticed that Target is preventing the Salvation Army from doing the bell-ringing solicitations this year. My thought was "Well, good". Let them look to the church for their help and donations. HA HA.
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Fri Nov-05-04 07:54 AM
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My local food bank said donations have dropped dramatically since 911 (go figure!) and they're having a hard time keeping enough food on the shelves for the hungry. I understand food banks all across the country are suffering a similar problem.
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Fri Nov-05-04 08:22 AM
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7. Check your assumptions... |
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Edited on Fri Nov-05-04 08:24 AM by JDWalley
Which churches are feeling the pinch? Generally not the suburban fundie megachurches where Bush draws his base. More likely it's the parishes, particularly in urban areas, of mainstream "liberal" denominations (Episcopal, Lutheran, United Church of Christ, United Methodist, etc.) that the fundies consider "not a real church" at best and "Satanic" at worst. You know, the churches that spend their collections on outreach and social support like shelters and soup kitchens rather than on slick anti-abortion billboard ads -- and are marrying gays, not trying to outlaw gay marriage.
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Fri Nov-05-04 08:35 AM
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My church (a UCC in suburban Boston) is hurting bad. It's a very liberal parish with gays welcome with open arms, and the church does a lot of good work, it's just that everyone is so tapped out. :(
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Fri Nov-05-04 09:45 AM
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One Church of God preacher here in our rural town was whining to my hubby a few months back about the drop in funds and people just not giving. My hubby had no sympathy either. When the preacher mentioned something about church members having to give 10%, my hubby said "No, I'm not in to giving away my money." Because he has never been involved in a church, I had to explain that 10% thing to him later. He thought it was the craziest thing he's ever heard.
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Fri Nov-05-04 08:23 AM
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8. Republican registrations rise in those same areas. Odd. |
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Fri Nov-05-04 08:36 AM
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10. It's also because a lot of Left Wing Christians stopped giving |
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Fri Nov-05-04 09:35 AM
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12. What church do you go to? |
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Is it a pro-conservative church? If so, why not find a church that shares your values?
(Just an idle question)
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Fri Nov-05-04 09:36 AM
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13. True enough, we struggle to make tithe these days. |
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Fri Nov-05-04 10:07 AM
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17. RevMoon will soon step in and bail them out. That's how he grows his |
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