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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:01 AM
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AP: Computer error at voting machine gives Bush 3,893 extra votes
Edited on Fri Nov-05-04 11:29 AM by Tom Rinaldo
There are already threads up about this, and I will give a link to one, but the title of those threads does not alert anyone that there is a solid AP story out about this, though it seems not to have been picked up by the National Press yet. This story ran in the Akron Beacon Journal in Ohio. It can be linked and sent out through email, and that is exactly what we should be doing to force national attention to it. If it happened here, where else has it gone unreported?:

"Posted on Fri, Nov. 05, 2004

Computer error at voting machine gives Bush 3,893 extra votes

Associated Press


COLUMBUS, Ohio - A computer error with a voting machine cartridge gave President Bush 3,893 extra votes in a Gahanna precinct.

Franklin County's unofficial results gave Bush 4,258 votes to Democratic challenger John Kerry's 260 votes in Precinct 1B. Records show only 638 voters cast ballots in that precinct..."

"...Damschroder said after Precinct 1B closed, a cartridge from one of three voting machines at the polling place generated a faulty number at a computerized reading station.

The reader also recorded zero votes in a county commissioner race.

Damschroder said the cartridge was retested Thursday and there were no problems. He couldn't explain why the computer reader malfunctioned."

Link to Story: http://www.ohio.com/mld/beaconjournal/news/state/10103910.htm?1c

Link to original DU Thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=2603563&mesg_id=2603563


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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:04 AM
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1. kicking
:kick:
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cheezus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:05 AM
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2. computers don't random generate errors that manipulate data
programmers do that.
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7th_Sephiroth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:05 AM
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3. because it came with pre-loaded results
or was edited by diebold staff
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:06 AM
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4. Well gol-dang! The MSM is doing its job.
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FIGHT! Take this country back one town and state at a time!
http://www.geocities.com/greenpartyvoter/electionreform.htm
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Glenda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:08 AM
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5. kick
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LTRS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:09 AM
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6. DU'ers are the ones who called and wrote
We have the power. Now let's use it on this Florida issue:

Flordia ballots show huge (and I mean HUGE) numbers of DEMS supposedly voting for Bush in very Dem counties. That is indicative of wholesale theft of this election! My partner spent hours crunching numbers last night and there is no doubt - they stole FL and they probably stole Ohio as well. Trust me, we are NOT the conspiracy theorist types, and even on Wed I posting here saying "take off the tin foil hat" to people who automatically assumed it was stolen.

But it was. It really was. Check here.

http://ustogether.org/Florida_Election.htm

It's just not possible that 40 and 50% of registered dems voted for Bush, but ONLY in optical scan counties.

I don't know how to post a spreadsheet here, but here is a summary of how they did Florida:

Summary

-- In 13 of 15 touchscreen voting counties in Florida, Dems gained over what would be expected looking at just registration percentages –more than just Dems voted for Kerry in these counties

-- But in only 7 of 52 optical scanner voting counties (15%), Dems gained over what would be expected looking at registration percentages - this seems a little odd

-- In the touchscreen counties, the average gain was 8% over what you would expect based on Dem registration, including all 15 counties

--In the optical scanner counties, the average loss was 16.6% under what you would expect based on dem registration, including all 52 counties

-- If you apply the 8% average plus the expectations based on registration that was seen in the touchscreen counties to the optical scanner counties where we saw losses in the Dem column, it's a total of 281,143.

If you add this number to Kerry’s total, and subtract this number from Bush’s…

Method
Bush Votes
Kerry Votes

Subtotal
Touchscreen
1,845,876
1,982,210

Subtotal
Op-Scan-Precinct
1,950,213
1,445,675

Adjustment

-281,143
+281,143

Corrected Subtotal
Op-Scan-Precinct
1,668,730
1,727,158

Corrected Total
All Methods
3,514,606 - Bush
3,709,368 - Kerry

And guess what, when you correct, it matches the exit polls!

If we could get the paper ballots rescanned in Florida with machines that had been actually checked to make sure they was no fraud going on, you would see that Kerry very likely won this election.

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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:10 AM
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7. Maybe Kerry Conceeded Too Early?
It's not to late to fight.
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Joylaughter Donating Member (498 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:14 AM
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8. Lordy Lordy
What a suuuuurprise.
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MemphisTiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:41 AM
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9. It's still not enough to make a difference in the outcome
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TexasChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:42 AM
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10. I think it depends on how widespread this is. n/t
Edited on Fri Nov-05-04 11:43 AM by hopeisontheway
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DemNoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:43 AM
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11. Such an error is impossible without human intervention
Edited on Fri Nov-05-04 11:43 AM by rpalochko
Non-Technical types need to understand that an error like this does not happen due to something called "computer error"

How often do you bring up a web page and see random errors? The answer is never because such problems were fixed decades ago.

Storing data on a flash memory card and getting errors just doesn't happen. How often are your digital photos corrupt?

The only way corrupt data is going to appear there is if it was placed there intentionally. The chance of anything Else happening is infinitely small.
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