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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 03:29 PM
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Randi on now! Creaming FRAUD!!

Talking about evetything that was on DU.

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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 03:29 PM
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1. She just described this:
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 03:32 PM
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2. Yes! Yes! Yes!
Edited on Fri Nov-05-04 03:33 PM by goclark
We have got to get this out to Jon Stewart and all the rest!

We are the Worker Bees.

Let's roll out!

We love you Randy!

Wish Jon Stewart could use this visual tonight.
It tells the real truth so clearly.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 03:33 PM
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4. Mike Malloy is doing same
And the DU discovery of the mysterious 4000 Ohio votes to W made it to AP. Keep it up.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 04:05 PM
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23. Agreed! Worker bees...
NGU.


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lovedems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 03:32 PM
Response to Reply #1
3. It is to bad that our "free press" will take a pass on this for corporate
welfare. Those CEO's will never let it happen. What's this liberal media the conservatives keep complaining about? I want a piece of it.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 03:35 PM
Response to Reply #3
5. We must spread the word, can't wait for CEO's
to let it happen!

Where is the media list?

Help!
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 03:41 PM
Response to Reply #5
9. And spread the word to friends and neighbors, too.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 03:36 PM
Response to Reply #1
6. Holy Shit!!
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DuaneBidoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 03:38 PM
Response to Reply #1
7. Sources? Where did this come from?
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 03:39 PM
Response to Reply #7
8. Randi Rhodes homepage
Edited on Fri Nov-05-04 03:41 PM by liberalnproud
I'll go get the link and edit.


here is the link

http://www.therandirhodesshow.com/main.html
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 04:01 PM
Response to Reply #7
22. I believe the visual was posted here by TruthIsAll

Since we don't have a search feature working, I can't find it.

Where is the poster.
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59millionmorons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 03:50 PM
Response to Reply #1
12. I'm dumb
Edited on Fri Nov-05-04 03:52 PM by demdem
What does this chart prove? I dont get it. All I see is the exit polls were wrong. So who really believed Kerry was going to win PA 60-40 that is silly. Please explain what this shows I am desperate to go along with this but I really dont see anything wrong.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 03:52 PM
Response to Reply #12
13. Top 3 results compare exit polls to machine tally in states that
have paper ballots.

Bottom ones compare exit polls to machine tally with states that have no paper trail.


This is clearly fraWd.
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59millionmorons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 03:57 PM
Response to Reply #13
17. OH, now I get it
When did electronic voting begin? And is all the electronic voting done by Diebold?
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BigMcLargehuge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 05:18 PM
Response to Reply #13
46. NH has a paper trail
we fill in a paper ballot and it's read by a machine. the machine doesn't shred the incoming ballots or anything so a manual recount is possible.

I will say this about exit polling data... I was standing beside the exit poller in the Derry, NH location (Pinkerton Academy) for about 90 minutes on the morning of Nov 2nd and here is what I saw:

500 people pass by, she approaches 2, one tells her he's too busy to be polled, the other one is polled. The exit poller waits another 20 minutes or so as 2500 people walk by, then approaches another exiting voter, who turns her down. She waits again for 10 minutes as 550 people go by, the approaches another voter, who turns her down. This went on for the entire time I was standing there. When she wasn't watching people walk by in silence she was talking on her cell phone away from the exiting voters.

Take this for what it's worth, because it's only my observation from one polling place for 90 minutes, but I don't trust the exit polling data because of this experience.
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DuaneBidoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 03:52 PM
Response to Reply #12
14. Every exit poll that was taken at a paper location came out
exactly like the end results. Every exit poll taken at a machine location came out with Bush winning the vote but Kerry winning the exit poll. The EXIT POLLS WERE RIGHT. The election was stolen.
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DuaneBidoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 04:01 PM
Response to Reply #1
21. Can you get this to Skinner with the link: If we can
back it up it should be the first thing people see when they come onto DU.
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nebula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 04:20 PM
Response to Reply #1
26. "Send it to everyone!"
Edited on Fri Nov-05-04 04:22 PM by nebula
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nebula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 04:21 PM
Response to Reply #1
27. "Send ti to everyone"


Fine, but what do I tell them if they ask for the source of the graph, as well as the source of the exit poll numbers as indicated by the graph??
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Q3JR4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 04:52 PM
Response to Reply #1
41. Where did this information come from?
Edited on Fri Nov-05-04 04:54 PM by Q3JR4
Anyone have a source? If anyone knows where the original numbers came from and can source that, life would be good.
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oldtime dfl_er Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 03:42 PM
Response to Original message
10. omigod!
seeing that in red and blue is amazing.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 03:50 PM
Response to Original message
11. Thank You
Clearly, we did not lose the electoral vote or the popular vote.


FraWd.........plain and simple.


E-mail this to everyone you know....we have to get the word out.

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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 03:53 PM
Response to Reply #11
15. It ain't over till it's over!
Did that recharge your dead battery my friend?
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 03:57 PM
Response to Reply #15
18. Randi is on this like white on rice!

Send it to everyone!
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 06:14 PM
Response to Reply #15
52. Most certainly Mr. Flotz.
Didn't do the BP a damn bit of good, however....
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 03:55 PM
Response to Original message
16. You are going to get the boys excited
Or is she SCREAMING?
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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 04:36 PM
Response to Reply #16
37. Yeah, vote fraud isn't as arousing as one might guess
:)
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 03:59 PM
Response to Original message
19. WOW! she is giving Bev and BBV big support!!
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 04:21 PM
Response to Reply #19
28. just called for her entire online listerner base
of 4M to donate $5 to Bev and BBV, or even $1...
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olddem43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 04:01 PM
Response to Original message
20. Why can't the DNC get a forensic computer analysis?
The fraudulent code should be easy to detect.
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KitSileya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 04:55 PM
Response to Reply #20
43. Uh.... because part of the contract....
....is that the code is kept secret? No one is allowed to see the code but Diebold employees, not even election secretaries or pollworkers, and no one's allowed to open a machine up and physically see the inside either.......
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59millionmorons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 04:05 PM
Response to Original message
24. Okay so
Edited on Fri Nov-05-04 04:06 PM by demdem
So how do we prove that they overcounted. Is there a trail we can retrace to see how many extra votes Bush and Kerry did or did not really get? Can we get the data and prove this?
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Irishladdie Donating Member (328 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 04:12 PM
Response to Original message
25. We must stay focused....
Lets get these story's emailed to the mainstream Media...

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Irishladdie Donating Member (328 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 04:21 PM
Response to Original message
29. Wow! Randi says give a dollar to Bev at Black Box Voting.org
I just donated, everyone donate. Let's get this party really started!!!

www.blackboxvoting.org
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 04:21 PM
Response to Original message
30. I can't get on the BBV site to donate!!
Please get it back up so I can give $25!!
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Irishladdie Donating Member (328 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 04:22 PM
Response to Reply #30
31. I think Randi....
didn't realize by pumping someone up she would crash their site. UGh



Donate Donate Donate!!!

www.blackboxvoting.org
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 04:29 PM
Response to Reply #31
34. I know. I'll just have to wait awhile.
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 04:33 PM
Response to Reply #31
36. I can't think of a better way for a site
to be crashed - by people trying to contribute. :-)
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 05:19 PM
Response to Reply #36
48. I was able to- dontated $10. n/t
PB
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nebula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 04:24 PM
Response to Original message
32. Skeptics will likely ask:
Edited on Fri Nov-05-04 04:25 PM by nebula
1) What is the source of the graph (where did it come from)?

2) What is the source of the exit poll numbers as indicated by the graph?
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 04:28 PM
Response to Reply #32
33. Good point.
NGU.


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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 04:32 PM
Response to Reply #32
35. I'd have to find the original thread on that
and I have no idea which one it was. It listed the AP (? I believe) exit polls throughout the day up to and including the last one. It also documented that the final posted result did not coincide with the previous results and had been matched with the "vote results."

Perhaps someone else has saved that thread.
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nebula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 04:40 PM
Response to Reply #35
38. anyone have a link?

btw, what are the final AP exit poll results?

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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 04:44 PM
Response to Reply #35
39. Is this the one?
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 04:53 PM
Response to Reply #39
42. That's the first place I saw it last night.
NGU.


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Q3JR4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 04:56 PM
Response to Reply #32
44. I'm not a skeptic,
but for those I will show this graph to that are, that information would be good to have as backup.
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nebula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 05:02 PM
Response to Reply #44
45. Exactly,
Without a good source, people will just say,

'Well, anyone can make a graph.'
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wiggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 05:22 PM
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50. and what about graphs for the rest of the states? nt
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Q3JR4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 05:18 PM
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47. A list of sites showing the exit poll information that made the graph? EOM
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 05:21 PM
Response to Original message
49. They asked that donations for BBV be done by mail addy
Edited on Fri Nov-05-04 05:22 PM by robbedvoter
posted here
http://www.therandirhodesshow.com/main.html
saves credit card fees for small donations
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 05:23 PM
Response to Reply #49
51. Either way- they get a bigger cut from cheques- but either way send $!
Anything helps!

PB
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 08:27 PM
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54. Can someone find this and repost it ?
A picture is worth 1000 stolen elections. TruthIsAll Fri Nov-05-04 07:18 AM
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