OH SH_T IT JUST HIT YAHOO NEWS

[PotatoBoy]

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20041105/ap_on_el_pr/voting_problems_4

Sorry if I'm overreacting here.... am I?

THIS ROCKS!!!!

[Old and In the Way]

1. Tip of the iceberg.........

[pnorman]

41. The iceberg ends at the waterline.

That's all folks. Nothing of interest here. Move along ... I said: "MOVE IT"!! (Sounds of billy clubs klunking, tear gas hissing, concussion grenades going off, and helicopters buzzing overhead)

pnorman

[benburch]

2. This is HUGE

RATE IT UP

[Tesibria]

3. RANK IT !!!! nt

[smbolisnch]

4. Hell No! Now the MSM has to pick it up....

:headbang:

[rainy]

5. That's all they needed to do, add a few thousand in each

county and wha-la, bush wins.

[nostamj]

6. snip

COLUMBUS, Ohio - An error with an electronic voting system gave President Bush (news - web sites) 3,893 extra votes in suburban Columbus, elections officials said.

Franklin County's unofficial results had Bush receiving 4,258 votes to Democrat John Kerry (news - web sites)'s 260 votes in a precinct in Gahanna. Records show only 638 voters cast ballots in that precinct.

Bush actually received 365 votes in the precinct, Matthew Damschroder, director of the Franklin County Board of Elections, told The Columbus Dispatch.

State and county election officials did not immediately respond to requests by The Associated Press for more details about the voting system and its vendor, and whether the error, if repeated elsewhere in Ohio, could have affected the outcome.

[jean]

25. how the hell can they know how many votes went to bush after

witnessing this massive error? They should have the precinct vote again on paper ballots and count them by hand. It's only 600+ people - get it done in one day.

[itzamirakul]

32. Back to paper ballots and a ball point pen

I am sick to death of these machines. Randi Rhodes has been analyzing this topic along with all the other errors all over the nation, expecially in Florida, where she was this week. All the exit polls in the part of Florida where she was doing her radio program showed Kerry ahead with 60% of the exit voters, yet Bush won in each precinct. Please...it's all Bushit!

Just give me a damned paper ballot, a ball point pen, a box to hold votes and a table to write on. Old-fashioned or not! Get rid of ALL the machines!

[dirtyduck]

7. maybe this why the party is quiet

they knew the house of cards would start to fall on its own

[Ducks In A Row]

fuck that. they're quiet because they gave up

if it hits the fan, it's because of DU

[MatrixEscape]

8. Hmmm .... good to see!

Let's vote that article up, ey?

[PotatoBoy]

9. oh my GOD..I feel like partying!!!!! n/t

[ZanZaBar]

10. Quick press this before the story goes away!

[flygal]

11. HUGE - I now even have my husband researching BBV!!

[ogradda]

12. how many absentee ballots in ohio?

does anyone know?

[eleonora]

13. I'm sorry to say it 's just a bleep...

we'd need major news coverage

[Lex]

17. well, it sometimes starts as a trickle n/t

[eleonora]

19. true

I just don't want to get onto a rollercoaster of emotions just yet

[goclark]

43. This is not about emotions this is our country.!

If you don't care don't roll with us but this is HUGE!

[Ima]

22. It's at 3.55 Vote it up

[LiberalTechie1337]

14. Surprise surprise

We need to check EVERY machine in Ohio. If a single machine can add almost 4000 votes, think of how big the state-wide margin would be. Much more than 136,000, I can guarentee that.

[MSgt213]

15. Here's the problem we don't know how these machines fucked up

and we never will unless someone force these people to open up. This is bullshit our votes should one not be up for private bid to begin with and even if the government needs help they need to make sure that the people know precisely what these assholes are doing with their software. There's so many ways to fuck us over with software we couldn't even watch for all them.

[itzamirakul]

42. THERE IS A WAY! - HERE'S HOW!

I am listening right now to Randi Rhodes on Air America Radio and she is thorougly ocvering this story. She is very excited. Here is her suggestion:

She says to go to www.blackboxvoting.org

The people at this website have done this kind of voter checking before. Apparently the woman at the site files for Freedom of Information and has the right to check the machines. Randi said if all you can give the woman is just a dollar or two, then do so because she needs the money in order to file for the Freedom of Information costs. I am going to the website now to see what else i can find out.
This is apparently the only organization that has done this kind of checking before.
**********
Now Randi is saying that the site is evidently overcrowded because of Randi's call to action or else it is being hacked so if you cannot get through now, please try again later.
I'm going to try it now and see what happens.

[MSgt213]

46. That's worth a dollar to me, but she will probably need two for the

for the lawsuits. These motherfuckers will fight tooth and nail not to get caught. They don't have to worry about the news media.

[itzamirakul]

51. www.blackboxvoting.org - GOOD NEWS!

OK, I got through by clicking on the link in my post. The woman's name is Bev Harris. They are a non-profit organization. They have taken the position that MASSIVE FRAUD took place on Nov. 2 and she has proof other than just the fixed machines. She needs the donations to make copies, etc. She is also looking for lawyers to help and people like ourselves to help. Check it out.

www.blackboxvoting.org

[LibertyLover]

54. Bev Harris

Bev Harris has posted a lot on DU on BBV dangers. She's one of the good folks.

[nickinSTL]

16. Are you overreacting?

Probably.

This one instance has been mentioned.

This sounds promising, though:

"State and county election officials did not immediately respond to requests by The Associated Press for more details about the voting system and its vendor, and whether the error, if repeated elsewhere in Ohio, could have affected the outcome."

And this:
"The Ohio glitch is among a handful of computer troubles that have emerged since Tuesday's elections.


In one North Carolina county, more than 4,500 votes were lost because officials mistakenly believed a computer that stored ballots electronically could hold more data than it did. And in San Francisco, a malfunction with custom voting software could delay efforts to declare the winners of four races for county supervisor."

I'm not holding my breath. It's being reported as malfunctions, not fraud.

[LisaLynne]

23. True, but ...

you know, at this point, I would take "malfunctions" because it will call the results of the election into question. * and Rove are trying to get people to buy this mandate crap and claim a land side victory when the truth is it was NO landslide. This sort of thing could put a damper on them.

[dirtyduck]

18. I feel like DU is back baby...

[Carolinian]

20. Remember to RATE IT UP, guys.

[NYC Liberal]

21. DIRECT LINK TO RATE A 5!!

http://personal.news.yahoo.com/us/news/ratings/postrate.html?locale=us&prop=news&rateid=ap/20041105/voting_problems&type=T&short_url=/ap/20041105/ap_on_el_pr/voting_problems_4&cat=694&ncid=&url=http%3a//story.news.yahoo.com/news%3ftmpl=story%26u=/ap/20041105/ap_on_el_pr/voting_problems_4&.done=http%3a//story.news.yahoo.com/news%3ftmpl=story%26u=/ap/20041105/ap_on_el_pr/voting_problems_4&rate=5&title=Machine+Error+Gives+Bush+Extra+Ohio+Votes%0a

Click on above link!!

[proud patriot]

24. rated it , and sent it out to friends

:hug:

[veteran_for_peace]

26. Does anybody know how many discard votes in Ohio?

I have done some calculations and I have the following:

Total Votes Cast 5,574,476
Total Votes Counted 5,481,804
Difference 92,672

That means that there were 92,674 votes that have either not been counted or were destroyed.

:wtf:

[mcg]

27. ES&S has connections to Bush

"A technician from the Omaha, Neb. company that designed the software, Election Systems & Software Inc., was working to diagnose and fix the problem."

Read this:

<http://www.corporatewatch.org.uk/news/die_bold.htm>

[PotatoBoy]

28. RATE THE HELL OUT OF IT!!

It has a 3.5 rating, obviously the freepers are hating it..

RATE IT!

[pacalo]

29. I sure hope they check more than Franklin County!

[mcg]

30. Rated it a 5 and emailed it twice, the more the better

[Poll_Blind]

31. Please rate this up! n/t

PB

[LiberalEconomist]

33. Our new media is a dead penis

Send this out to the Guardian and some of the other British newspapers. That is how the US mainstream media picks up things. This is the trick the RW uses.

[On the Road]

34. Maybe This is The Opening to Justify a Massive Recount

A smoking gun is needed, and here it is, even if it's numerically small, and even if no malicious intent was proven.

Now that this is a public story, no one can claim that audits and recounts are a wild goose chase or a conspiracy theory.

[itzamirakul]

52. MASSIVE VOTER FRAUD INVESTIGATED BY www.blackboxvoting.org

Go to the website and read the position they have taken on Massive Voter Fraud.

[On the Road]

57. Yes, But Unfortunately

the evidence does not match the scope of the fraud that's being claimed. That's what has yet to be discovered.

[DeepModem Mom]

35. You know I love you Potato Boy, but as a small favor...

would you edit the "sh*t" out of your subject line, in deference to Mrs. Edwards being on the page?:loveya:

[PotatoBoy]

36. How can I resist?

Geez, twist my arm :) sure.. I've censored myself a bit. Sorry, I was just WAY excited.

[DeepModem Mom]

40. Completely understandable! As The Magistrate says...

Let's go get those Bush bastards!

[OhioChick]

37. It's a Start......

I take this as good news! More will come out......

[shraby]

39. There is another one..get this news out to the media!

<http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=203&topic_id=23860&mesg_id=23860>

Look at this excel file:
<http://www.geocities.com/flfraud04/flVoting.xls>

I got the number directly off the FL elections website:
<http://enight.dos.state.fl.us />

<http://www.pbcelections.org/ElectionResults/2004/General/Gen04_dtl.htm>

First, look at the numbers in red font / yellow background. For example, Palm Beach county. 542,835 votes for president were casted, but only 452,061 voters turned out, a difference of 90,774. Does this mean that there are 90 thousand EXTRA votes?

Secondly, look at the numbers in green font. For example, Escambia county. 142,990 votes for president were casted, but 161,183 voters turned out. So, 18,193 people did not vote for president? Thats a high number. Thats 11%.

[Lizz612]

38. Rate this one too

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/us_vote_error
Less votes for our ratings to compete against.

[PATRICK]

47. Like I said that night

They HAD to overreach. The rest was bullshit. The Democrats(organization) have been incredibly stupid and sacrificed us for nothing.

They had to overreach and they did. No one was prepared or cognizant? The Party has betrayed us consciously or otherwise.

The media blitz is all about OTHER Democratic faults of no consequence at all.

[kimchi]

48. Rated. n/t

[PATRICK]

44. Those are awardable votes

Other instances can only be surmised and they certainly aren't being mentioned ONLY the self defense of the voting machine company. Oops. Glitch.

The iceberg remains underwater.

Kerry made a huge error of his own.

[alexisfree]

45. shit!

[greyfox]

49. Here's another....

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=5&u=/ap/20041105/ap_on_re_us/voting_report

[4_Legs_Good]

50. Wow!

That's some scary shit!

Don't get me all excited, though!

david

[BadMatt22]

53. ***DRUDGE HAS IT UP****

...it's gonna spread like wildfire now!

[americanwomanone]

55. The Crap Not Only Needs To Hit the Fan

It needs to be blown from sea to shining sea!

[walldude]

56. Bev says this is but the tip of the iceberg n/t

[wiggs]

61. where did you hear that? nt

[shelley806]

58. PotatoBoy Please edit your post so people will know to rank it!!!

The higher the rank, the longer it will be shown.

[PotatoBoy]

62. Too late, the time period to edit has passed :( n/t

[loudsue]

59. Where in the hell are all those K/E LAWYERS we donated to hire???

We sent SPECIAL donations to the legal fund for this election, and I haven't seen ONE LAWYER on this!! I want them to ALL GET TOGETHER AND HELP BEV....

Damn it! We paid for them BY SPECIAL, SEPARATE DONATIONS!! Get their butts over to BBV.org!!

:kick::kick:

[DemBones DemBones]

65. Damn good question! Ask Kerry & Edwards. nt

[greekspeak]

60. OK...so it is not a lot of votes...what it stands for is DIRELY IMPORTANT

Reverse 80,000 votes and suddenly Shrub's winning of Ohio is no more. This is ONE COUNTY...how many more messed up results are there going to be?

ADDENDUM...Hypothetically, if enough of this fraud emerges to take Ohio away from Shrub, will Kerry be president?

[greenbriar]

63. kick

Kick

[BQueen]

64. AP on Yahoo here Go rate Em!!

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=ap/eln_electronic_voting

Electronic Voting Machine Woes Reported
By RACHEL KONRAD, AP Technology Writer
FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. - Voters nationwide reported some 1,100 problems with electronic voting machines on Tuesday, including trouble choosing their intended candidates.
The e-voting glitches reported to the Election Protection Coalition, an umbrella group of volunteer poll monitors that set up a telephone hotline, included malfunctions blamed on everything from power outages to incompetent poll workers.
But there were also several dozen voters in six states —— particularly Democrats in Florida —— who said the wrong candidates appeared on their touch-screen machine's checkout screen, the coalition said.

(snip)

A spokesoman for the company that makes the touch-screen machines used in Pinellas, Palm Beach and two other Florida counties, Alfie Charles of Sequoia Voting Systems Inc., said the machines' monitors may need to be recalibrated periodically.
(more)

[DemBones DemBones]

66. Thom Hartmann has a great article about BBV up

at Common Dreams and on his site,

http://www.thomhartmann.com