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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 09:08 PM
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DUers SoCalDem & EarlG mentioned in Sheila Samples article...
I haven't seen this posted yet; sorry if it has & I overlooked it. :)

So that's it, then. Like John Kerry says, it's time to get over it. Move on. Get on with our lives and our jobs -- let the healing begin.

Sounds good, John. But I don't intend to budge until all the votes are counted, because when I started this journey I committed for the long haul. Jumping ship to avoid putting the country through the "agony" of investigating and challenging another sordid election coup de`etat would never occur to me -- especially if I had 17,000 lawyers fired up and ready to do battle. If, as you said, this was the single most important election in our lifetime -- our one last shot at salvaging democracy -- it looks like you could have, as a minimum, hung around until the results were in.

(snip)

If democracy is worth fighting for until the polls open, it's a no-brainer that it's even more so after they close. Fortunately, there are those who, unlike you, will not give up until every vote is either counted or the reason it wasn't counted are clearly known.

(snip)

And, today, in his Tom Paine.com article "Kerry Won," Palast shows that you not only won in Ohio, but in New Mexico as well! Wow -- isn't that special...you should have stuck around for a couple of days, John.

(snip)

Others, such as EarlG and SoCalDem over at Democratic Underground.com, are relentlessly fighting that last battle even though you have left the building, John. These guys point out the obvious -- "in EVERY STATE that has paper audit trails on their (sic) EVoting, the exit poll results match the actual results reported within the margin of error." They say also that "EVERY STATE that has EVoting, but no paper trails has an unexplained advantage for Bush of around +5 percent when exit polls are compared to actual results."

More http://207.44.245.159/article7224.htm
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 09:13 PM
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1. And a special DUer, Bev Harris, has been lauded, as well...
The "4-5 paragraph only" rule is a bummer sometimes...I should have included Bev Harris in my original post!

Here's the snippet about Bev's extraordinary work:

Since you've probably got some extra time on your hands until the Inauguration, you might be interested in reading an in-depth background piece on the trials and tribs of Bev Harris and Andy Stephenson (BlackBoxVoting.org) over the past four years as they engaged in bloody battles with Ohio's Diebold Election Systems' CEO Walden O'Dell in a futile effort to interest the media and the public in the prospect of another election coup -- or non-violent overthrow of the government.

Harris, a tireless investigator and author of "Black Box Voting: Ballot Tampering in the 21st Century," says that no less than 37 states installed the Diebold voting systems even though they knew beforehand that Diebold offered no paper trail for votes, and were also aware that O'Dell was a Bush Pioneer who raised more than $600,000 for the Bush/Cheney campaign and promised in 2003 to "deliver Ohio's electoral votes to the president next year."

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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 09:16 PM
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2. Great article!
Go 4_year-nightmare, EarlG, and SoCalDem! :headbang:
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 09:34 PM
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4. And Bev Harris -- a great, great woman. :)
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pleiku52cab Donating Member (674 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 09:30 PM
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3. To Sen. John Kerry
You said you'd cover our backs - looks like we are covering yours and we do not want to see your back. Turn around, walk back to us, and fight against this FRAUDULENT thievery of our American democracy.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 09:43 PM
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5. Poor SoCalDemocrat....
Edited on Fri Nov-05-04 09:53 PM by SoCalDem
I am fighting too, but I am about 99% sure that I am NOT the one in the article..The number cruncher is SoCalDemocrat...

Poor guy.. chose a name to similar to a blabbermouth who preceded him here by a few years..

I do what I can, and am happy to accept accolades, when due, but I think they have the name slightly wrong here :)..



sent this email to them..hopefully they will make a correction..


Although I do work my hardest at ferreting out the truth about the thieves infesting our White House, the person referenced with EarlG at DemocraticUnderground is SoCalDemocrat../not SoCalDem (that's my aka)..

Ah..the joys of internet forums and the screen names we choose.. The poor guy chose a name very close to someone(me) who has been there from the beginning, and more familiar to the group.. anyhoo.. Keep up the good work, and please give credit where credit is due.. I like to read the statistical stuff, but am not the one who crunched the numbers..My forte' is words.. I am a writer..not a numberer:)

Your story is good, btw.. keep up the good work..

Thanks..

SoCalDem..DU



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