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You, yes you, are going to hell. You're a heathen.
In today's parlance perhaps - you, yes you, are a redneck asshole christian moran who is dumb as a rock and want death because you voted for someone I didn't.
You do not hold my beliefs, therefore you are stupid. Or again, in a nother way, you don't hold my beliefs so you're not saved.
A phone rings somewhere in Missouri. "Hello?" 'You fucking stupid jackass, you're state is red, you're dumber than shit, and christians are the entire problem with all that is bad. I would also like to encourage you to, today, become saved and cleansed. Vote for a democrat, we love you all."
yeah. That will fucking work.
You want to get people to see and understand a different view than yours, tell them simply that they are stupid because their belief system (whether religious, political, et al) is not aligned with yours. And then bitch about them when they do the same. Works like a charm it does.
What did the right have we did not last election? They didn't vote against Kerry the man - they voted against what they saw as what was behind the man. The evil liberal leftists, aclu, jesse jackson, act up, and the list goes on. We voted and campaigned against a person - oh we would mention the issues, say they were important, then spend a lot of time blabbing about bush did this or that, he hired aliens to take out wtc, he was osama's buddy, he wasn't and he was simply caught with his pants down, bush bush bush.
The right has this weird knack for coming together and, at times perhaps often critical, having a focused view which is not an umbrella. Let me explain: The right has a lot of groups which will differ in smaller things but are linked on bigger things usually, and they get those bigger issues out there. The left is linked by a diverse group of smaller things and those groups also at times seem to have a different view of bigger things which dilutes messages. Anarchy, socialism, fight corporate entities - unless they are nice ones we like, fight the rich pigs who horde the money, unless they are soros and the like, wealth is evil - unless those holding it are on our list then they are ok because they use their money the way we like, be free - just don't smoke in bars, don't hate people because they have islam as a religion - only if they are christian then you can bash them all day long and that is ok here (oh, and don't bash jews, they vote democrat - but on the other hand, israel is bad sometimes maybe)
The lists go on. Now we might all have good and rational reasons behind the thinking (OK the above examples may be poor, but I am tired and it is late.)- but the messages often, even to me, seem like they contradict each other (on the most base levels for example).
Platform for one needs to be better defined and communicated. But that is another story. I have heard talk of late of building bridges. That to me is an excellent strategy. How can you get someone to come around to your ideas if you sit around calling them stupid, want to boycott states which are red (even if 49% voted blue). The point - Hate does not build bridges. Has not worked in the ME, won't work here and now.
If the right whips up hate of the ME do we tell em 'good job!'? And how is that hate fanned? Calling those we dont' like idiots, evil, wanting to punish them for not having the same values, convincing ourselves and others that they cannot change and want us all dead (hmmm, that sounds like freeper logic on the ME - guess that does not always apply...).
Do you want war? Do you want to hurt others because they are not like you? Do you see them as a threat and want to take them out - or at least impose sanctions which may harm them?
Are we progressives, or just mirror images of freepers with another label to make ourselves feel better?
This does not apply to all here, or in the movement, and is not intended against any one person who has posted X. It is merely my introspection without brash emotional interjection into some things I have gone over internally.
The common cause is not get rid of bush. That is so very narrow. The common cause should be, imho, to get our message out in a positive manner - our message, not our hatred at a person. Forget the person. Get the message out peacefully, in a way people can relate to it, and they will be able to see which people running for office really reflect their core values and who really will do the best thing for america.
We talk about Jesus being a liberal, and oh how those right wingers are oh so wrong about his views and we know better. Then we call them all manner of things from dumbasses to redneck assholes. yeah, we are setting a good example.
I am making the choice to not become what I despise. I will talk to my fellow man - regardless of his faith or who he voted for. I will treat them how I wish to be treated, and love them all the same. I will be patient with those whom see things in a way I don't, we all change some views over time - and time is the key. Sure, bush won and is in the house, but he cannot defeat or change the hearts and minds of the people, he cannot take away the spirit. The early christians had a real bad time of it in rome, they left the politics alone and changed the hearts and minds of people one to one. In the end, they won.
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