We have our proof of fraud PAY ATTENTION ALL DU'ER

[AnIndependentTexan]

Remember diebold's own creator promised he would deliver Ohio and Florida to Bush.

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/politics/content/news/epaper/2004/11/05/a29a_BROWVOTE_1105.html

Officials found the software used in Broward can handle only 32,000 votes per precinct. After that, the system starts counting backward.

Why a voting system would be designed to count backward was a mystery to Broward County Mayor Ilene Lieberman. She was on the phone late Wednesday with Omaha-based Elections Systems and Software.

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Here is how they cheated by E-machines votes PAY ATTENION

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=1318200&mesg_id=1318200&page=

Stock symbol of Diebold - DBD and history

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=1319721#1319758

saw this on another forum

Diebold used the old underhanded ATM trick.....Negative vote count aka negative numbers when doing a withdrawl.....So easy to do, it actually reverses the percentages immediately, making it seem like no fraud could happen!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=1314823&mesg_id=1314823&page=

[Must_B_Free]

1. Exactly!

Now, where's the proof part of this whole thing?

[AnIndependentTexan]

5. If you read all three threads

We have ownership of the company being linked to Republican party. I'm sorry about the link pointing to the middle of the page. We also have a link to the ATM Fraud with negative numbers. Each thread list facts on how they did it. The first thread also has a list of results and counties that do not add up. Take everything in as a whole and read through it all.

[shelley806]

14. I couldn't link to the Palm Beach paper; could you copy a snip of the

article? What was it dated? Also, I'm dense on economic matters...I didn't understand what you were trying to link the stock trade information to ?pay attention to dates..? The CEO of DBD Ohio, has
donated heavily to RNC as have others in DBD. It fits into a pattern that raises so much of an index of suspision, but how do...

[ogradda]

2. aahh shit

what fucking idiots have a damn election without a paper trail. i can't believe anybody actually let those damn machines be used.

[dave502d]

4. The law says you can't. n/t

[shelley806]

3. I remember reading that...

"Diebold used the old underhanded ATM trick.....Negative vote count aka negative numbers when doing a withdrawl.....So easy to do, it actually reverses the percentages immediately, making it seem like no fraud could happen!"

Is it or can it be proven that they did this with intent? And was this the only county?

Or just the tip of the iceberg?

[dave502d]

6. Is that why we were ahead at the start? n/t

[shelley806]

7. I remember comments on the real quick change in votes....

I also remember someone posting a long thread obtained from a freeper site about cheating methods for the Diebold machine, but was too tired and sad to do more than skim it...I think the title had something like "You're not going to like this one." Anyone remember?

[NVMojo]

8. for reals, why did we let HAVA decide for us to use these damn

machines??

[shraby]

11. WE didn't, in fact

WE emailed congresscritters over and over to get paper with them. Bev fought with them. No one would change anything..now they have to deal with it. I hope they have to do a nationwide recount. Maybe Bev can come up with evidence of mischief.

[Carolab]

12. Oh come on you know why

ES&S, Sequoia and Diebold all part of the Bush crime family connections

[Lone_Star_Dem]

9. Do you know what happend with Nader's recount earlier?

I was present at the time I sent the fax then life got in the way and I missed if we made the deadline?

[pa28]

10. They got away with it in 2000.

Voter purging, disenfranchisement of blacks, missing ballot boxes etc. etc. No wonder they were so brazen this time.

With no accountability from the opposition or the media they know the majority of the public will follow right along. Have we already missed the last call for Democracy?

[oscar111]

13. 1.Re-vote in BBV areas 2.nearfuture,Borrow paprtrl mach for soon electns

Our goal ought to be , for the prez election mess, to get re-voting for all areas that were BBV on Black Tuesday. If not a whole new national vote. Vote if possible spread over two weeks, like some nations, to avoid long lines and people giving up on standing so long.

Areas where officials say "need time to get $ for buying paprtrail machines to replace the Diebold we now have"....why, tell officials to BORROW idle paprtrail machines from nearby areas. Machines spend lots of time in warehouses, idle.

And, can always revert to paper ballots into boxes.

PRINCIPLE:
The more complex a thing is , the more room for tricks. eg.Computer voting. eg Many contracts are MADE complex to allow creation of tricks. And to also hide the trick in reams of boring reading. Who reads their bank regulations governing checking? ten pages of tiny legalese.The phone bill puts item numbers on lines chosen at random, that dont correspond to item paragraph beginnings. ho ho ho.

[Robeson]

15. kick

[AnIndependentTexan]

16. bump