Gay people, watch out

[LiberteToujours]

Everyone seems to be afraid that the government is on the verge of rounding up all the gay Americans and sending them to the gas chambers. But it doesn't work that way. Think of Hitler's Germany. The scapegoating comes first; gay people are going to be blamed for all of America's problems. Then the people start taking it into their own hands, and hate crimes rise. THAT is what we have to worry about at this point. I worry that we are going to have more Matthew Shepards in our future thanks to this administration's blatant contempt for homosexuals.

So, please, be careful. If the government and the radical right has its way, the people are going to backlash against the gays and it's not going to be pretty. We need to fight back as strongly as they are fighting us.

[Bluebear]

1. It already started here at DU

We "cost them" the win. :(

[DELUSIONAL]

3. Anyone who believes that is a dumb-ass idiot.

No one group (Women's choice/abortion or Gays) cost the election.

WE WON -- There was yet another coup. Their side cheated and they are trying to blame gays for the "values" or morals issue.

There was wide spread fraud.

[The Traveler]

5. I am embarassed

by some of the crap I have read around here lately re: the impact of the gay marriage topic on the outcome of the election. If we lost fairly (doubtful, with Diebold in the picture) then all Democrats must shoulder the "blame" for that. We failed to take a principled stand on tha matter, we failed to make the country see why it is important.

Again, I say that no one can be deprived of their human and civil rights without my own being placed in peril. I'm straight, but I get that much ... one would think that enlightened self interest would cause us all to shift the discussion to "how do we take the moral high ground on this and convince the country".

[theHandpuppet]

15. Well said!

"Again, I say that no one can be deprived of their human and civil rights without my own being placed in peril."

This deserves a "quote for the day", robg! :)

[DELUSIONAL]

19. If they attack the gays and we allow it -- they will come after us next

I know I'm on the hit list compiled by the religious reconstructionists -- I am a feminist and I was a delegate for Jessie Jackson in 1988.

Attacking an already vulnerable group is the hallmark of bullies and it is the hallmark of bush. Which countries has he attacked -- ones that are already helpless and vulnerable. He will continue to go down the list.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

4. Awww, I still want you!

Forget the small minded bigots in our own party. I am sorry I missed that I would have ripped them for it!

Repeat after me, divided we fall!

[Bluebear]

8. MMMMwah

<sound of blowin' ya a smooch!>

[girl gone mad]

12. I think most of us saw it for what it was.

An over-reaction by angry appeasers.

I, for one, will not cede on this issue. The government hs no business telling consenting adults who they can marry. If we have to change the way we frame the issue, fine. But, Democrats would be fools to cave.

[ibegurpard]

2. Those of us who are older, who grew up in less toleratnt places,

and live there still ALWAYS know we have to watch our backs. It's part of life.

[demnan]

6. Mentioned this to a gay friend at work

we were commiserating about the election and he brought up the Canada issue. I told him perhaps he and his SO could emigrate based on persecution in the U.S.

It's not out of the realm of possibly that other countries may take pity on our gay population and offer santuary.

[Rev_Karl]

7. This is not Nazi Germany

Not yet. There are a lot of similarities but there are a lot of differences too. I relay think that in the long term 'marriage' will be only a religious term and homosexuals will be afforded all their inalienable constitutional rights

For now there are a lot of us that will not stand for the scapegoating of anyone. Some shitbags will feel emboldened but despite the election the American people have not changed that drastically.

It might now look like there are a lot of us right now but the majority of us do care.

[freetobegay]

9. Who will be the interior decorators & hair dressers?

:shrug:

[ogradda]

10. o shit

you made me snort soda thru my nose...

[Bluebear]

11. deleted

[Azure]

13. And folks like you are calling other people "bigoted?"

Pot, meet kettle. Your use of a mobile home bedroom as a mockery is insulting to DU'ERS who live in manufactured housing. Yeah, there are some. Picking on a person's appearance is also cheap. That guy could be the biggest yellow dog Dem around, for all we know. But wait, stereotyping is just for repukes, right?

Sheesh.

[Bluebear]

14. Fair enough. Now back to these issues we are supposed to dump?

What were they again, the ones we all know are costing us? You never got a chance to finish your point.

On edit, by the way, I didn't know it was a manufactured home. It did NOT have style which was the point. Thank you.

[Lexingtonian]

16. I'd be more sanguine

Yes, after this the bigots are going to feel emboldened. And there will be some uptick in gay bashing. But, don't forget a lot of Republicans' kids, and Republicans, are gay too.

The game is really about the elderly people who can't tolerate much more of the Modern world getting more of it thrust upon them, and they have to a large extent never learned to deal with much of it- people of other races, other white ethnic groups (surprisingly often), even the other gender when not stuck in stereotypical gender roles, people of other religions (even, other denominations). The game was to throw hostile Arabs, gays, and dictators at people incompetent to make proper distinctions and too provincial to deal with it in any way other than xenophobia. The game was to make every institution these people rely upon- church, government, marriage, white privilege, public safety, the military- seem in danger from the outside. And, indeed they are in danger, and these people respond to that. Problem is that they live by projection, and it is actually in their own hands that all of these have deteriorated. But they are happy for every offer of a lifeline being thrown their way. The Republican Party is an Affirmative Action program for people who have the privileges but are incompetents and screwups.

I doubt there is a systematic plan to make life into hell for 6-8 million gay Americans, but there is no doubt that the standard of justice by which Government operates is going to continue to fall. Simply from the low quality of people who they make law enforcement and judiciary, and pure cynicism about and incompetence in the whole project of government- which is the providing a reasonable measure of justice. Treatment of everyone is going to get worse, but gay folk will bear a larger measure of it than those who aren't, relatively. Sadly enough. I don't think the Republican leadership cares about gay people one way or another- power and wealth and their strongest enemies are what they care about to exclusion of all else.

[radfringe]

17. attempted to scape-goat us for 9-11

don't you remember falwell/robertson's diatribe?

[daa]

18. The true question is

who is our bigger enemy - Gays or Muslims??? Can chimpy think enough for a two-pronged strategy?