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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 06:28 AM
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Voter News Service (VNS)
http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Articles/Landes_Projections.htm

The news networks don't just report election news, they create it. But do they also conspire to control election results?



Voter News Service (VNS) is a top-secret private consortium owned by ABC News, The Associated Press, CBS News, CNN, Fox News, and NBC News. It's current headquarters is in Brooklyn, New York. It's been around (under different names) since 1964. It's the only company whose exit poll results are used by the news media to announce the "projected" winners in races for the president, U.S. House and Senate, state governors, and select races.



By 1964, computers were used to predict election outcomes, as well as to count votes on "punch cards." With the use of computerized vote counters and the news networks exclusive control over polling data in major elections, the gates to election fraud were wide open. Computerized voting machines have now made election fraud as easy as stealing candy from a baby.



So how could VNS help rig an election? VNS could conspire with corrupt government officials and crooked voting machine companies (whose reputation for fraud and "error" grows with every election) to come up with projections that closely mirror the expected election results. Then all that's needed is some 'tweaking' in targeted precincts where voting data can be manipulated, voting machines rigged ....and elections swung. VNS follows through with its de facto certification of election results that have already been fixed. If someone suspects vote rigging, there's always VNS to say that the results match their projections.



And with no oversight, who's to know?

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TaleWgnDg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 06:36 AM
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1. that's it, time to pull the plug for awhile . . .
Edited on Sat Nov-06-04 06:38 AM by TaleWgnDg
am tired of all the "conspiracy theorists" stuff . . .
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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 06:39 AM
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3. I'm ignoring you and this is why
Edited on Sat Nov-06-04 06:41 AM by AIndependentTexan
Read this all DU forum members and start paying attention


Colonel Richard Prouty, a very famous insider in the CIA during the sixties, and a strong proponent of the Kennedy assassination conspiracy theories, has this to say about conspiracies:

"Conspiracies are easy to formulate and execute. It is the cover-up that is hard."

www.prouty.org

Coverups all have a certain smell to them. I can smell this one a mile away. One particulary smelly aspect of any coverup is the "media blitz" planned a long time before the conspiracy happens. This is what we are seeing in effect yesterday and today about the election.

This his how Prouty knew there was a conspiracy in the Kennedy assassination. He saw huge full-blown press releases on Oswald, detailing Oswald's life, appearing in the New Zealand press when Oswald had been in police custody for only a couple of hours. This information could have only come from the US National Security organizations, and would have never been given to the press otherwise. Instead, what was given to the press was full-blown, already written articles about Oswald. Prouty recognized the fashion, style, and "smell" of the articles as being a CIA black op. He knew -- he was involved in black ops himself.

What we have seen in the last two days are a series of press releases already prepared long in advance. One of the most damning press releases is the one asking "Why are exit polls so wrong?" This article says that people started getting suspicious that exit polls were wrong when they were so off in the Florida 2000 election! This is SO ABSURD, because the exit polls were right on the money in the Florida 2000 election. As with 2004, the exit polls were off because the voting count was tampered with.

Another blatant coverup example that was CAUGHT was CNN changing their exit poll predicitons on the web for Ohio. They switched their exit poll results at 1:00 AM on Wednesday morning from showing a 2% Kerry lead in Ohio to a 1% Bush lead in Ohio. THESE WERE NOT ELECTION RESULTS, they were exit polls. You can't switch exit polls results, unless you were to take a new exit poll, which is impossible to do after the election is over. CNN did it. They are lying to us.

Another coverup we are experiencing right here in this forum is the instant flooding of the forum by freepers trying to dampen, smash down, or just deflect any discussion of the voter fraud. A lot of these posts are pretty outrageous, but a lot are very mild -- such as "we need to just accept this and move on". Now I know that a lot of regular forum members are saying this too, but the number of NEW members saying this is off the charts.

The coverup is in effect. You can smell it everywhere.

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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 06:41 AM
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4. Quite respectfully...
Yes, we lost. But there is a growing database of data from trained poll workers and other sources that must be investigated for the apparent discrepencies.

The integrity of the bedrock element of participatory democracy demand it. If our institutions will not do the heavy lifting, then the same people who drive the voting must drive the investigating.

I would hope that any citizen sees that this concept is one that goes very far past winning and losing.
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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 06:38 AM
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2. More from that same article
Bill Headline was VNS's executive director during the notorious 2000 Bush - Gore presidential election. According to information on a University of Miami webpage, Headline started his career as an Air Intelligence Officer in the U.S. Navy from 1955 to 1957. Seven years later, in 1964, he was hired at CBS where "as a member of Louis Harris and Associates, he directed field research and vote collection activities for CBS coverage of the 1964 Presidential elections." From there his career skyrocketed to Senior Vice President of CBS News, CNN Vice President, and past President of the Radio/Television Correspondents' Association.



Very impressive... but something may also be... very wrong. Victoria Collier (daughter of James Collier) interviewed Headline before he retired from VNS. She was shocked at how nervous he sounded over the telephone. I telephoned Headline the other day and left a message asking for information about Voter News Service, what he did between 1957-1964, and if he ever had a working relationship with the CIA or any other intelligence agency. He hasn't returned my call.



If VNS is helping to rig elections, why are they doing it? Generally speaking... I believe that the same people who can't rake in enough money, also can't get enough power. The news networks are owned lock, stock, and barrel by the richest corporations and individuals in the world. They certainly have an agenda. Their arrogance and disregard for the little guy is clear. They may think that we're not smart enough to pick the 'right' kind of leaders... right for them, that is. So they might try to do it for us.

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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 06:48 AM
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5. Kenneth Blackwell was the one who assigned diebold to ohio
The same Blackwell that tried to illegally stop Ohio people from voting because of the 80lb paper.

http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Feb04/Fitrakis0226.htm

If Ohio’s Republican Secretary of State Kenneth Blackwell has his way, Diebold will receive a contract to supply touch screen electronic voting machines for much of the state. None of these Diebold machines will provide a paper receipt of the vote.

Diebold, located in North Canton, Ohio, does its primary business in ATM and ticket-vending machines. Critics of Diebold point out that virtually every other machine the company makes provides a paper trail to verify the machine’s calculations. Oddly, only the voting machines lack this essential function.
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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 06:56 AM
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6. Voting machines violate Voting Rights Act
http://www.dissidentvoice.org/April2004/Landes0406.htm

When voting machines are used, critical parts of the Voting Rights Act can't be enforced. Under Section 8 of the Voting Rights Act, 42 U.S.Code §1973f, Federal Observers are authorized to observe" . . . whether persons who are entitled to vote are being permitted to vote ...(and) whether votes cast by persons entitled to vote are being properly tabulated..."


Under "Prohibited acts" in §1973i, the "Failure or refusal to permit casting or tabulation of vote" . . . can result in civil and criminal penalties. "No person acting under color of law shall fail or refuse to permit any person to vote who is entitled to vote...(and) Whoever...knowingly and willfully falsifies or conceals a material fact... shall be fined not more than $10,000 or imprisoned not more than five year, or both."


Voting machines violate those provisions. Vote casting and tabulation take place inside of a box. Federal Observers can't observe "... whether persons who are entitled to vote are being permitted to vote . . . (and) whether votes cast . . . are being properly tabulated.." Voting machines by their very design "conceals a material fact."

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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 01:54 PM
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8. bump
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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 07:01 AM
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7. SAIC is a behemoth military defense contractor
Edited on Sat Nov-06-04 07:03 AM by AIndependentTexan
http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Articles7/Landes_SAIC-VoteHere-Diebold.htm

SAIC is a behemoth military defense contractor with a shadowy, if not tarnished, reputation, while former SAIC executives also have ties to VoteHere. Why is that important? VoteHere is a growing company, which aspires to provide cryptography and computer software security for the electronic election industry.



Former President, Chief Operating Officer, and Vice Chairman of SAIC is Admiral Bill Owens, who is now Chairman of the Board for VoteHere. Owens also served as Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and was a senior military assistant to Secretaries of Defense Frank Carlucci and Dick Cheney. Carlucci's company is Carlyle Group, while Vice President Dick Cheney's former employer is Halliburton.



Another former SAIC board member, also on the board of VoteHere, is ex-CIA director Robert Gates, a veteran of the Iran/Contra scandal.



VoteHere is already benefiting from the Diebold debacle, as it will be partnering with Sequoia Voting Systems, "to provide a new level of electronic ballot verification to customers of the AVC Edge touch screen voting system," according to the VoteHere website.



SAIC, which is supposed to vet Diebold's elections software, is itself in the elections business.



On a webpage of Diversified Dynamics (recently purchased by Northrop Grumman), a 1998 legal notice states, "Diversified Dynamics has brought the election process to the technological level of the new millennium by designing the world's most advanced electronic vote recording and election management system. We were supported in this effort by the engineering and software capabilities of Science Applications International Corporation (SAIC), a world leader in systems development and integration."



All of the above companies are military defense contractors as well as information technology (IT) firms, whose clients include state governments and federal agencies.

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