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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 07:29 AM
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For 2 whole days, I layed in the corner drooling & making weird sounds
Edited on Sat Nov-06-04 08:11 AM by mopaul
When I awoke very early Wednesday morning, I remember making coffee and sitting down with a cup at the computer machine....then, everything turned bright white, then completely black. I felt a dull thud, and heard a sound like a pumpkin smashing against a side of beef.

Every few hours, I would drift back into lucidity, just long enough to realize I was laying in the corner of the living room with spittle running down my cheek and into a large puddle at my chin. and I could hear a weird voice off in the distance. I later realized it was my own voice, but I didn't hear words, only groans and occasional burps.

One time when I blurred back into almost consciousness, I saw my dear wife, Mrs. Paul, over at the edge of the room, but she looked like she was 20 miles away, and I remember that the sensation of time passing had vanished, and I seemed to be locked in a ripple between time and space.

I got the vague blurred impression that I was curled up in the fetal position, and I could see a dust bunny in the corner in great detail, but I knew that dust bunnies didn't talk, as this one did. It kept echoing a phrase or mantra that I couldn't quite make out...'mandate'...'exit polls'....'massive turnout'...'4 more beers, 4 more beers'.....then the silence of the grave.

Then, I began to regret that I hadn't just died, and I felt hot as hell, but shivering like a naked man in antarctica, sweating and trembling violently. I remember dear Mrs. Paul applying a wet towel to my forehead and saying sweet comforting things to me, and I remember she looked like an angel, wings and all. for a while, it looked like I might pull through.

But then, the fever dreams began, and I descended into hell, headfirst. I saw all the souls of all the disenfranchised voters in a lake of burning sulpher and I heard their terrible lamentations, and I remember wishing that I'd never been born with ears, or eyes to see their awful suffering.

Deeper, and deeper I fell into the stygian abyss, and I saw off in the distance what looked like a fiery throne, and it came into view and I could not close my offended eyes or rip them out and I saw the beast of stolen elections in all his bloody glory and I grew sore afraid.

'O Democratic God of justice, why hast thou forsaken me?' I wailed.
'Why must I look upon this horror of the ages with my mortal eyes?'

But I heard no reply to my plea, and no relief for my suffering soul, and I had no cool drink of salvation to quench my damned tongue, and no succor from my candidate.

After this I felt only blackness, cold and empty, where no shadows ever lived because no light had ever shone there. My eyes were open, as I later discovered, but I layed there like a dead man for the last hours of thursday night, stinking, burping, and generally bringing shame to my entire family.

Slowly, I began to recover from my affliction, my eyes cleared and my head too, but it still felt like spiders had built webs in there.
I found the strength to make a pot of joe, and lurched back over to the computer machine. I stared at it for about two hours, motionless, finally grabbing the mouse and braced myself and faced the music. I started to comfort myself, and forget the awful ordeal I'd just been through and the portentous visions I'd had.

And now, I'm gradually regaining my strength and composure, I've showered, put on clean clothes and burned the old ones, and apologized to my wife and my neighbors in the apt. above me.

That's my story, and I'm sure I'm not the only one who's been down this same road of despair and redemption, and in that, I find solace and strength. Two days lost forever. Two whole days of my life taken, never to be redeemed. Two days of hell, to steel me on my quest for a satisfying election night. Someday, my prince, or princess will come
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 07:32 AM
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1. And you want to know a big difference between us and them?
We will get through this doing nothing worse than protesting in the streets, while the right-wing of America would be conspiring to buy guns and overturn the government by force if it happened to them.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 12:18 PM
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55. I'd rebut you, but...
I gotta get a move on. they're having a "Mossberg Factory Sales Event" down at Bubba's Wonderful World of Ducks n' Deers....

Stock up, we're gonna need the stuff!
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 07:34 AM
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2. You are an inspiration to us all. Thanks, I think I'll go shower now.
Edited on Sat Nov-06-04 07:36 AM by anarchy1999
plus my hubbie didn't come home last night. This is hell. I know it.

I've also been considering slashing my wrists, the fight just is not worth it anymore.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 08:58 AM
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9. Don't do that because I still love you!
And everyone else on here, who tried to make America a better place!
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 09:04 AM
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10. That's what they want you to do.
For those who plan to stay, the time to start to fight back is now. Or after the laundry is finished and the stuff in the back of the refrigerator is tossed. No more than a week.
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 07:34 AM
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3. From the Book of Mopaul
Chapter 6, Verse 66


Love it, mopie, baby. :hug: It is a cold, chill wind which blows through our hearts. After the shock and grief wear off, we will all be hell on wheels because? That which does not kill us makes us stronger.....
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 07:45 AM
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4. I swear, mopaul
You're just a big ol' bag of bent impulses. We could get rich mass-cloning you and renting you out to parties and reality TV shows.

Bless you, my man, you're a gift from God. God bless you. :D :thumbsup:
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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 07:49 AM
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5. Yep,exact feeling here...and the weather
On the day after the election in Wichita was just what you'd expect. Cold and gray with slow rain all day long. It really compounded the feelings of loss.

Thursday was 100% different. Rain was gone,bright sun,cobalt blue skies. I took down my Kerry sign in the afternoon and thought its time to quit sulking around and get back to work for Democrats.

Funny too,a contractor that I do work for every so often called about doing some work on Friday. We got all those details out of the way and we talked about a local arena issue that was on our ballot. He was pissed like I was that it passed and then he blurted out that nearly everyone he voted for on Tue lost. Har!! Knew I had a Dem on my hands! We talked about this "moral" vote and he just like the rest of us was aghast how those idiots consider Bush a moral man when you've killed 100,000 innocent people in Iraq. It was great phone call,Dems are hard to find around here.







David
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Xenus Sister Donating Member (354 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 08:11 AM
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6. I slept for 18 hours. No lie.
I know how you feel.

I got home from working Election Protection, stayed up for a couple hours searching the net for good news. When the awful truth hit me, I went to bed around midnight. Except for 2 times when my husband called to see how I was (he was out of town on business) and I got up to go to the bathroom, I slept. And slept. And slept. I couldn't bear to be awake and thinking about the horror of what had happened. Luckily, I didn't dream at all, or at least don't remember any dreams. I finally woke up and stayed up about 8pm Wednesday.

I was lucky in that I was off work anyway, have very self-maintaining cats, and no kids. I got to do what I'll bet almost every other Democrat longed to do. Believe me, I knew how blessed I was.

I still can't believe it.



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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 08:22 AM
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7. I also worked the polls.
Edited on Sat Nov-06-04 08:22 AM by The Backlash Cometh
I cried off and on the next two days. I went out to look for signs from God that things would get better. I asked my husband to please respect my wishes and keep me away from the Republican soccer parents at Thursday night's game. I asked my younger sister to take me off her address list because she sent me a Jesus-inspired forwarded e-mail (I know she voted for Bush and I've asked her several times not to contact me through e-mail unless she had an original thought to share with me); and I talked to my father and mother for comfort.
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Nay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 09:13 AM
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13. Oh, gosh, I wish I could have done that on Wed. I stayed up until
2:30, unable to believe the horror. I could barely sleep when I went to bed, and I had to get up at 5:30 to go to work with a bunch of fundies ALL DAY. It was surreal. I felt alternately numb and enraged.

I should have arranged to be off that day, really I should have.
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 10:38 AM
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28. I stayed home yesterday after going to work Thursday
Mostly because I feel like I have a great big ol' target painted on me now. That, and I think I have to pick a new HMO because there's a notice at work saying my HMO is packing up shop in my area, and I found out I need four brand new tires for my car because the last two times I've gotten tires (and then, later, gotten them rotated), the mechanics that put them on didn't bother to tell me that the existing tires were made for a slightly different model of Mazda- which made them wear out signifigantly faster. They were selling me tires that were too wide by about an inch or so, and they did it more than once. Oh, why, yes- those wrong tires did cost more, too! Imagine that! :grr:

Not gonna go to that shop again, but it's going to cost me over a grand. So, no, I have not had an especially good week.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 08:51 AM
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8. F**K IT BROTHER MOPAUL, for I have seen Delight! (I like it)
I'm going to get into preaching the gospel, because I've f?cking HAD IT! O8)

I Know I'm a better person than Dumbya! O8) I Know the time has come for me to CHANGE MY LIFE!(and speaking of CHANGE send me all of yours) O8) I Know that I could use some fine fried chicken on a regular basis! O8) I Know I'll get to meat a lot more harlots who are in need! O8) I Know I'd look great driving a new Caddy SUV, down the streets that Jimmy Swagger once visited on a regular basis, when he saved all them bad girls!(for himself) O8) I Know I'd like to live in a fine brick home on the hill! O8) I Know that they have plenty of Anti-Venom on hand at the ER! O8) I Know I won't have to pay taxes anymore once I start living off the fat of the SUCKERS! O8) In short, I KNOW it f?cking ALL! O8) I BELIEVE....I'm READY! O8)

My name is Hubert Flottz and I know the Lawd has approved this message and anything else I do to win! O8)

PLEASE: send your spare change to the "Hubert Flottz Hour Of Reckoning" because I reckon I need that cash worse than you do!(because I ain't had a glorious cold beer since Tuesday) O8)

PS: GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY GLOwRY!

If lightning hasn't struck brother in chief yet, we ain't gotta' worry about it!







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ignatius 2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 09:38 AM
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19. Good Christ almighty, that was hilarious and I think you hit the nail
smack dab on the head. If Lightning Hasn't stuck Chimpy, then anything goes. There are no such things as morals..only war,violence and screwing the pooch.

Thanks for the laugh..it was badly needed.

Coming to you from the red state of Indiana,from here on out known as Jesusland.
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 09:49 AM
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20. yeah, i'm in jesus city, mo......formally known as kansas city
not far from oklajesus and jekansus and arkanjesus.

jessouri, idajesus, jesusippi, alajesus, ojesus, north jesus and south jesus, new jesus, new jesus, new jesus, new jesus, and jesus island.

jesuston d.c., calijesus, montanjesus, iojesus, kentuckjesus, tennejesus, idajesus, jesusianna, jesuzona, nejesus, wisjesus, verjesus, connetijesus, minnijesus, jeslaska, jesuswaii, north jesus and south jesus, florijesus, jexas, and of course, jesunois.
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 09:55 AM
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21. Thank you mopaul and Hubert for being here amongst the sinners.
I'm laughing and crying right now. Both of you are poets to me.

:loveya:

:yourock:
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 10:43 AM
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30. Thank you for being here too peekaloo!
Edited on Sat Nov-06-04 10:47 AM by Hubert Flottz
And thanks to every DUer who has fought the GOOD fight, month after month, year after year! You Restoreth My Soul, and I mean that from the bottom of my heart!

My purpose here on DU regarding religion has never been to belittle anyone who truly believes in and who honestly serves their God! "Religious Freedom" is the right of ever American! My intent here on DU regarding religion, has always been simply to expose and to highlight, the mass hypocrisy in this country! Religion to me, is more LOVE based, than BLIND FAITH based!

The outlaw band of jackals in and around the White House, Love nothing, but MORE MONEY and MORE POWER, are not living by anything Jesus said or did! How can a JUST God keep smiling on them that do such evil to their fellow man?

Edit}Ooops
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 10:01 AM
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22. jesusippi
I love it.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 10:20 AM
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24. Sinna!!!!!!!
How can you leave out West VirJaaaaaaaaaaazuz? We even got Saint Albans!

I'm crying from the inside out and from the outside in!
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 10:26 AM
Response to Reply #24
26. jesuchusetts....
and of course, christnetticut.
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ethereal Donating Member (191 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 07:01 PM
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66. LOFL!!!!!
i believe i will now speak in tongues. i don't really know how, but i've had a few beers and i believe i can wing it.
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union_maid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 09:09 AM
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11. You're not alone
No election has engendered the kind of reaction that this one has.

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/ny-hsblue1106,0,6177902.story?coll=ny-nation-big-pix

In our house, we were kept busy The Day After because my mother, who is in her 80's took a quarter of a tranquilizer to help her sleep on election night - or at least that might have been the problem. I don't know whether it was an interaction with other meds or because she's gotten very thin or if it was something else entirely, but in the small hours of the morning we had to call 911 and she was taken to the ER by ambulance, pretty much unconscious.

She's doing much better now, but she drifted in and out all the next day. Every time she woke up she asked if things had changed and if Kerry was now the winner. Once she told us about going to sleep thinking that Dewey won only to wake up finding it was Truman and that maybe that would happen and Kerry would win.

Several people didn't come into work the next day and reported spending the day under blankets in heavy mourning.

I find all this very good. We should be taking it hard. And then we should hit back and hit hard and never let up.
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Tigerlily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 09:13 AM
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12. Have I told you lately....
that I love ya? :hi:
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 09:15 AM
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14. Hi Tigerlily!
Good to see you!
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Tigerlily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 09:28 AM
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17. Hi there!
:)
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oneighty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 10:23 AM
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25. Hey Tigerlily
180
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 09:22 AM
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15. At least you didn't turn into a beetle, cockroach or Katydid
and crawl under the couch. I would worry about you then. :hi:
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 09:23 AM
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16. Just stay away from your television machine
or else you'll really know what hell is.
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ignatius 2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 09:29 AM
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18. Damn mopaul, youv'e got me crying all over again. Surely the goddess
Fortuna will soon spin the wheel back to a world of sanity,tolerance and compassion and these dark days will be but a vile memory.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 10:12 AM
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23. I was incoherent most of Wednesday. You'd have thought I was Bush's
spawn, I was so incoherent from shock. I couldn't make a complete sentence until Thursday.
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vetwife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 10:37 AM
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27. Mopaul
There is something incredible about a 2nd termer when they start to fall. When he gets rid of his own people, between the anger in the populus and his own people, he will make Nixon look like Mother Mary.
They will tell us stuff we never ever thought of. think Paul O'Neill and then think John Dean and Nixon. Oh no, we may actually see him dragged off in a frog march. I would guarantee it ! In the meantime, if he thought the 1st four was hard work, he ain't see nothing yet. We all were upset and then I started taking it back again ! thinking of you.
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formernaderite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 10:42 AM
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29. I've been upset about the outcome...but
I really don't understand the whackiness of emotion that I've been reading about on this board, or watching on television. Frankly, it's embarassing.

I think it's adding to the publics perception that we on the left are truly whacky. Maybe it's because my politics veer sharply to the left, and I never get what I want in any election. I got over Dean losing the primary, although I still missed him. I don't know....sorry to bust on your crying parade but it strikes me as illogical.

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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 10:51 AM
Response to Reply #29
31. sorry i embarassed you pal,
wish i could be like you, and above all this silliness. must be nice
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 10:54 AM
Response to Reply #29
32. *sigh* words fail me.
Is that you, Spock??
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ignatius 2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 11:03 AM
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33. Give me a break..so many have worked so damn hard for so
damned long to out the world of this plague called Evil Bush Empire tirelessly by using intelligent analysis,working the polls,e-mailing and writing letters, phoning, word of mouth etc. that if we want to indulge in a little fun now that our dreams are like bugs splattered on the fucking windshield then who in the hell is more entitled?

As far as what those wonderful loons to the right think of me..they can kiss my big fat ass. I could give a shit what those bigots and mental midgts think of me. Anyways, once we bomb a few more brown people and blow a few more arms and legs off Iraqi and Afghanistani babies, they will forget all about this post in their admiration of their Hitler-like..oops..I meant God like Messiah president.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 11:10 AM
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35. Very well done!
Edited on Sat Nov-06-04 11:13 AM by Hubert Flottz
I could not have said it half as well!

Edit} I'd have prolly used Dick Cheney's words, that he used in the US Senate! God's gonna' get him for that, BTW!
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ignatius 2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 11:23 AM
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38. Thanks..I AM mad as hell and I am not going to put up with anymore
thought police.put downs of people I care about or any right wing bullshit anymore. My name is don't mess with me motherfuckers, I am not afraid anymore.
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vetwife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 11:15 AM
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37. Hey Mopaul, if it makes you feel better I will puting out a CD soon
Edited on Sat Nov-06-04 11:17 AM by vetwife
and need you and Jeff. I will take up the Moral Minortiy to the Right. Get Ready Right wing..that CD is coming ! I am inclusive in my faith, I got big hair, and being the daughter of a dem minister, and a Sunday school teacher, some of us can really teach the R-wing a few things !
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formernaderite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 12:03 PM
Response to Reply #33
48. I actually appreciate anger...we should all be very angry.
Not at the idiot right however, It's the on the air sobbing, which of course all the networks played over and over again that completely repulses me.

I realize I sound a bit callous to some of you. I just want this venting to go somewhere.

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ignatius 2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 12:22 PM
Response to Reply #48
57. I have not watched one minute of news, not one,since the wee hours of
Wednesday morning and the election coverage. I have not missed it even one bit. I am going to put my time to better use. I am going to work one evening a week at a womans shelter and try to tie up with a progressive gay rights group. If we do not protect the rights of the underdogs, then who will protect ours?

In the meantime, today is the very first day I have even felt like smiling and this post made me feel so much better.

Sorry if I snapped at you, my colleagues at work are all repugs and your reply to mopaul sounded like something they would say. As you can read, I am a bit of a caustic bitch and am definitely not very popular at my workplace anymore. But I don't care about that, these people are knowingly destroying what is good in this country and I will not tolerate or enable them to do so any longer.
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formernaderite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 01:34 PM
Response to Reply #57
62. In my 50 plus years...I've developed extremely thick skin...
...and a very laid back attitude. Doesn't mean I don't get angry or disappointed..just don't let others get the best of me. I'm glad you feel better....heck I do to for posting my obvious obnoxious post.
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 11:09 AM
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34. You're such a blissful person n/t
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hippiegranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 12:33 PM
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59. ILLOGICAL?
you wanna talk illogical? Then let's have a discussion about what kind of fucking LOGIC puts a now KNOWN retarded, murdering, smirking, simpering ASSHAT in charge. At least in 2000 he didn't have a RECORD of failure the length of and elephants intestines. PULEEEEZE. You live in this bass-akwards country and want to discuss LOGIC?
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 11:14 AM
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36. something like this?
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 11:32 AM
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39. Ah, mopaul, you, like us, realize the America we once knew is gone.
Now it is the acceptance, and it is so hard. I have been afraid for my husband so overcome with pure anger about what our country is doing, and wondering how so many could vote for someone like him. He is calming down a little, but we are both different now.

Anyone who is not upset is just not aware.

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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 11:43 AM
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40. i want it back
i want it before it's all gone
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vetwife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 11:45 AM
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41. WE WILL TAKE IT BACK.....WE WILL ! AND SOON !
Edited on Sat Nov-06-04 11:46 AM by vetwife
My sorrow turned to anger by Wed, night !
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 11:50 AM
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42. Well, we are working on it for you.
Not going to be easy though. It is so broken now. May not be quite same ever again, but perhaps we can patch it a little.

The saddest thing to me is what has happened in our churches here in our area. I was raised in a happy, Southern Baptist, church-going family....where love for our fellow human beings was taught. Now, there is just hatred taught for 'them "librul" folk.'

Just don't go to church anymore. Maybe somewhere else soon. But to a church that does not teach hatred and support war in the name of God.
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 11:58 AM
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43. none so blind as those who cannot see
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Voltaire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 12:16 PM
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52. No no MoPaul
its those who WILL not see. Huge difference.
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 12:17 PM
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54. correct....thanks..........n/t
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 12:00 PM
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46. "the America we once knew" was a FABRIC OF LIES
the main difference between now and then is that we've begun the long process of DISILLUSIONMENT. Little by little we see it for what it really is: A voracious monster plundering and sucking up the Earth's natural resources along with the lives of ANYONE who dares to get in its way.

In case any of you don't get it, THIS IS GOING TO GET VERY VERY UNGLY. We are on the edge of the next great world war and it isn't only going to happen 'over there'. Those of us living inside the borders of the United States are a CAPTIVE POPULATION being exposed to a skillfully orchestrated set of mind conditioning procedures.

The best thing any of us can do is UNPLUG FROM THE SYSTEM as much as we can. THE MONSTER DEPENDS UPON OUR *BUYING INTO* ITS SYSTEM. If we REFUSE to buy it, ultimately, not without great struggle but ultimately, it will wither and die.

We must create a NEW VISION OF SOCIAL REALITY. That will be our GREATEST CHALLENGE.
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UpsideDownFlag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 12:04 PM
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49. "a new vision of social reality"? how will we do that?
i hope it's not an "ungly" vision...
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 12:14 PM
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51. I am one person but I am not alone."My" life is interdependant
with all life on Earth. It is not "my" life against "your" life and the life of everyone and everything else. It is "my" life in relation to "your" life and "all life".

LIFE IS ENERGY EXCHANGE AND TRANSFORMATION ACROSS BOUNDARIES AND SCALES.

When we evolve AN ECONOMICS OF LIFE (as defined above) and let go of the economics of fear and greed and acquisition, we will begin to see the new vision of WEALTH. Wealth is health is wholeness is integrity shared across boundaries and scales.

It is only a beginning of an understanding that has to emerge from within ourselves. Our power to change the direction of society is not limited by the voting booth.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 11:58 AM
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44. My good friend says "a precious child is worth the pain of childbirth"
And if we need to go through a bit of pain to rebirth this nation, so be it.

I, for one, will not cry. I am depressed, certainly, but depression is what? It is anger turned inwards, as any good psychologist will tell you. Very important to take that anger, hone your sword, and get out there swinging with all the righteous anger that has been seething within us from the assault of those who dare to call us immoral while they slaughter the innocents of the world in their quest for an empire.

November 3, I awoke to find the snow had blanketed the ground. Despite my misgivings from the debacle of Nov. 2, my first thought, my very first thought, was, "A fresh start." Not to say that it's an omen, because my perceptions do not change the world, but I found it comforting because that is Kerry's slogan.

And the past two nights I have dreamed of snow, lots and lots of snow, everywhere. It isn't because of the snow here in Oregon that I have had such dreams, because the local weather has never factored in my dream state before.

A fresh start, my friends. One way or the other, a fresh start.

Peace be with all of you, and Mopaul. Especially you today, Mopaul, because while reading your post, that's the first time since Wednesday that I've cracked up laughing. You've got to admit, the left has it all over the right when it comes to honest humor.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 12:00 PM
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45. I was ready to go in the garage with the car tuned on and a hose in my
mouth, I was so upset. Enjoyed your rant! But, sad that any of us had to feel so disappointed and frustrated. Four years is a long time out of our lives to end in such a way.
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 12:04 PM
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50. Please don't go there KoKo01; talk to us.
The stakes are much higher than the life or death of our physical bodies. WE must embody the values we hold. We absolutely MUST. If we don't, no one will and they will cease to be apart of life--and then all WILL be lost.

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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 12:33 PM
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60. We just have to look at it as half way thru our 8 yr sentence
with no time off for good behavior, so we might as well be baaaad :evilgrin:
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 01:45 PM
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63. What , exactly, did we do to deserve this?
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 01:58 PM
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64. We were "framed", I tell ya..
2K was the wake-up call for MOST of us here, but by then it was already too late to really change anything.. The machines were in place in enough areas by then, and when we all hollered for REFORM, the people who represent us went with easy and fast,,and fun..(BBV) instead of saying..whoa!! take a step back and go back to paper until we get a uniform system that all locales can afford..

The supremes told us that recounts were "IMPOSSIBLE, I TELL YA", because of the different "standards and methods",, so instead of using that as their guide..and making the standards and methods match up, they went NUTS and started throwing money around..


States had to BUY something in order to get the money, so of course THEY went nuts buying the vaporvoters as fast as they could.

Bear in mind that probably most of the secretaries of state are probably computer illiterate, so they didn;t have a clue what questions to even ask...

Our "crime" is retro-active complacency :(



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ignatius 2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 12:34 PM
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61. I really like he way you think and admire you. Your writing reminds me
of a quote I believe by Muhatma Ghandi something like you must become the change you wish to see in the world. Very uplifting spiritually and makes ypu think that perhaps in some small way you can be a force for a better place by doing the small things. By helping the hungry, giving the cold a pair of gloves. hugging a person who is at the end or their wits, all the things that in my mind really makes a person moral.

Anyways, thanks for your thoughts, they are very comforting.
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UpsideDownFlag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 12:02 PM
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47. wow, sounds like a seen from "fear and loathing in las vegas" nt
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Demoiselle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 12:16 PM
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53. Not quite drooling, but...
I still can't read the newspapers or listen to the news. (I skip to the crossword puzzle.)
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Voltaire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 12:18 PM
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56. Understand completely
I may NEVER turn the news on again. Somehow that doesn't seem like such a terrible thing.
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 12:23 PM
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58. I had demerol and valium on Thursday due to lasik procedure
so I didn't feel pain, but I DID want to gouge my eyes out when I clearly saw for the first what the world would be like for the next four years.
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Tigerlily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 06:47 PM
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65. Kick
For anyone who needs to laugh. :)
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 01:22 PM
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67. Kick....this is too good to let go into Archives!
:kick:
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