MikeG
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Sat Nov-06-04 11:39 AM
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With all due respect - Bill Clinton STFU |
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I don't want him in politics anymore.
Since he was elected in 1992, the party has been in decline.
We need to whine, then fight.
Accomodating the Republicans will get us nothing.
Resist everything, just like the Republicans did in 1993.
That is all.
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goclark
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Sat Nov-06-04 11:41 AM
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1. Maybe he hasn't read about the FRAUD |
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For some reason, every major Democratic leader has said nothing, absolutely nothing about the FRAUD from the VRWConspracy.
Why are they silent on this?
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Sat Nov-06-04 11:47 AM
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3. This is the question that wakes me up in the middle of the night. |
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These are not stupid people. So what is going on?
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Goldmund
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Sat Nov-06-04 11:48 AM
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5. If these people believed in the truth like they believe in their careers.. |
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...we wouldn't be where we are today.
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TexasBushwhacker
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Sat Nov-06-04 11:53 AM
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7. Maybe investigation is going on under the radar |
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It may not be something that we want on the front page while evidence is being gathered. I think this is what all those thousands of attorneys were signed up for. For all we know, subpoenas are being issued as we speak.
Not every Republican was part of the VRWC, in fact most were not. If evidence of fraud is uncovered, there will be some GOP that will back us up, and some is enough.
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Sat Nov-06-04 11:58 AM
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9. maybe they're amassing the evidence... |
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If Lockhart, for instance, were to go on all of the news shows and say, "The election was stolen. There was massive voter fraud." The interviewers will ask for the evidence, and the best Lockhart would be able to do is say, "Well, we're working on it. We do have a pie chart from the internet!" The voter fraud charge would then be bandied about in the RW media, and it would be a joke before Lockhart could come out with the definitive evidence.
If Lockhart waits until he has the most incontrovertible evidence, when he is challenged on the news shows, he can come back right away with "right here, motherfucker!" Any time a RW news outlet mentions it, the Kerry people would be able to have the full evidence right there to counter them--not just a general "there are a few anomalies here and there."
Remember, Kerry's a former prosecutor. Even when a prosecutor has a good hunch about a suspect, he can't just charge suspects left and right because he has a hunch--he needs to amass all the evidence he needs for a conviction (or as much to raise the likelihood of a conviction) before he charges the suspect.
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Sat Nov-06-04 11:44 AM
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But I agree. I have no more tolerance for the "Old Guard". By Old Guard, I'm not talking Teddy or Byrd or folks like that. I mean the "leadership" that presided over the GOP takeover of just about everything: The Clintons, Daschle, Gephardt, McAuliffe, etc.
New Blood, new ideas, new faces. We have super studs in the party, it's time to groom them and use them.
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Goldmund
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Sat Nov-06-04 11:48 AM
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4. I couldn't agree more. |
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Sat Nov-06-04 11:49 AM
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6. Clinton is a great politician. As a policy-maker, he's not that great |
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Edited on Sat Nov-06-04 12:07 PM by jpgray
It wasn't the centrist policies that won in '92 and '96, it was Clinton.
edit: I put '08 in there originally, for some reason. :dunce:
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CindyDale
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Sat Nov-06-04 12:02 PM
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11. '08??? I must have repressed my memories of '04 - '07. |
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Clinton won? You mean Hillary, right?
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jpgray
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Sat Nov-06-04 12:06 PM
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12. It's been a long week. :-) |
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Or maybe I'm a DLC paid PR guy who is softening everyone up for a Hillary run.
:silly:
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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
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Sat Nov-06-04 11:56 AM
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8. If the Kerry campaign was run like Clinton's he'd be president |
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Why did it take so long to come out with a respone to the SBVT? Clinton's team was legendary in how quick they dealt with all the cheap shots.
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Sat Nov-06-04 11:59 AM
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10. Not with you on that one. |
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I don't think that we can discard Bill Clinton, because he does have the ability to mobilize and energize many segments of the Democratic Party.
I think we do need to move on from the policies of Dashcle, Gephardt, DLC (Terry McCauliffe, Bill Clinton etc.) There are going to many new faces and ideas in the Democratic Party over the next few years.
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Sat Nov-06-04 01:36 PM
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13. Just to throw this out for thought... |
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What if they know we are guilty of some fraud.....
Just a question.
Just something to ponder....
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