HEY BEV...Is anyone going to confirm the vote in some of the FL counties??

[BUSHOUT]

Taken from the Common Dreams article:

In Baker County, for example, with 12,887 registered voters, 69.3% of them Democrats and 24.3% of them Republicans, the vote was only 2,180 for Kerry and 7,738 for Bush, the opposite of what is seen everywhere else in the country where registered Democrats largely voted for Kerry.

In Dixie County, with 4,988 registered voters, 77.5% of them Democrats and a mere 15% registered as Republicans, only 1,959 people voted for Kerry, but 4,433 voted for Bush.

The pattern repeats over and over again - but only in the smaller counties where, it was probably assumed, the small voter numbers wouldn't be much noticed. Franklin County, 77.3% registered Democrats, went 58.5% for Bush. Holmes County, 72.7% registered Democrats, went 77.25% for Bush.

Yet in the larger counties, where such anomalies would be more obvious to the news media, high percentages of registered Democrats equaled high percentages of votes for Kerry.

Is someone going to get into Baker County and Dixie County and get this thing firgured out? A quick poll would be the quickest way.

A poll using a very large sample for such a small population base would provide a small margin of error and would quickly and easily confimm these abnormalities as fraud or freak.


EDIT to provide the Common Dreams link for anyone else interested:
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/1106-30.htm

[BayStateBoy]

1. The Media Needs to Look into This

The mainstream news media have been spoon fed a new word by Bush/Rove. That word is "evangelical," and they are babbling it excitedly like babes at a day care to the exclusion of some very real issues impacting the Bush Presidency.

The second Bush/Rove pabulum is the Bush "mandate," also being belched along with the evangelical pill. Meanwhile, no one seems to entertain the possibility that the Bush "mandate" may mostly be an Electoral WMD.

That is not to imply that Republican grassroots efforts, moral values, the evangelical vote were important especially in Ohio. No question. Kerry was up against it in a nation voting with its Bible and belly instead of its brain. But, those issues are instantly eclipsed by the following:

1. Electronic (BBV) voting, or any voting method that does not leave a permanent paper trail which can be audited is a felony to democracy.

The legitimacy of democratic elections is predicated upon the electorate's ability to verify election results. To deny the people or any candidate the option of a recount is directly contrary to the democratic principles upon which this nation was founded. Therefore any voting method not leaving a permanent verifiable record should be eradicated forever from the American political landscape.

2. Re: Exit polling, please no more excuses or distortions. Exit polling always correlates within 2% with voting tallies. We need answers, or in the absence thereof, a serious investigation of the following facts:

a. In Election 2004 the only exit polls that did not correlate closely with voting tallies were in states using BBV or a combination of methods including electronic machines. http://www.bluelemur.com/index.php?p=388" WHY?

b. In Election 2004, in every instance where there was significant statistical discrepancy between the exit polls and the voting tallies, George W. Bush was the recipient of additional votes and never John Kerry. WHY?

WI +4B MN +7B NC +9B FL +7B OH +6B CO +4B PA +5B NH +15B
NM +3B


http://www.washingtondispatch.com/spectrum/archives/000715.html
http://ustogether.org/Florida_Election.htm

http://www.michigancityin.com/articles/2004/11/04/news/news02.txt

***The statistical probability of a & b resulting from something other than random chance will be published shortly.

c. "The last wave of national exit polls we received, along with many other subscribers, showed Kerry winning the popular vote by 51 percent to 48 percent." http://nytimes.com/2004/11/05/politics/campaign/05poll.html

If you think that I am screaming fraud, you are missing the point. I submit that these issues should be thoroughly investigated, not in any attempt necessarily to overturn the election, but to pursue the truth which is the mainstay of any democracy and which used to be the heart and soul of news journalism.

[BUSHOUT]

4. Fuck the exit polls, the numbers explained at the Common Dreams

article are proof. Exit polls are soft evidence, we're got hard evidence.

Read this:
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/1106-30.htm

[geekgrrl]

6. yes- exit polls ARE soft evidence. We have more to work with than that.

[progressivedancer]

2. What

if this is true, that is just &^%$#@* up, aight.

[bullimiami]

3. i think these florida counties all use optical scanners

there is the paper ballot which can be recounted. i assume.

also if the hack is at the central tabulator, do the precinct counts reflect the actual totals or are they hacked too?




i think there is good evidence that votes were skimmed in a lot of other places. new york for one.

[LTRS]

5. I have been told BBV is looking into that

[flpoljunkie]

7. How these counties voted in 2000.

In rural Baker County, just west of Jacksonville, Bush received 5611 votes to Gore's 2392.

In rural Dixie County Bush received 2697 votes to Gore's 1827.

In Franklin County, Apalachicola area, Bush received 2454 to Gore's 2047.

To contrast Gadsen County, heavily African American, gave Bush 4770 votes in 2000 and Gore 9736. In 2004, Kerry received 14,610 votes to Bush's 6236. Bush's percentage rose from 30% to 32.8%. Kerry received 70% of the vote, compared to Bush's 30%. Turnout increased dramatically, up almost 30%! There was also a race for sheriff with an African American candidate who won the race and even increased his margin after the recount.

There is an article in tonight's New York Times about how the Republicans turned out the vote in Florida. You might want to read it. I think, too, that many of those registered in these counties are closer to "Zell Miller" Democrats.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/07/politics/campaign/07florida.html?position=&ei=5094&en=35c0eb28543d9af2&hp=&ex=1099803600&partner=homepage&pagewanted=print&position=

LAND O LAKES, Fla., Nov. 5 - Pasco County might be unheard of outside Florida, but that did not stop President Bush, Rudolph W. Giuliani and other Republican luminaries from visiting as Election Day approached. This rapidly growing place north of Tampa, where shopping centers, road extensions and subdivisions open by the month, supported Al Gore in 2000 and Bill Clinton in the two previous elections. But since Mr. Gore's bitter defeat, thousands of middle-class families, many of them Republican and independent,

have joined the many Democratic retirees who used to dominate here, making it a prime target for Gov. Jeb Bush, his brother and a vast army of Republican volunteers eager to erase the stain of the 36-day stalemate of 2000.

Their efforts paid off. While Democrats placed their emphasis on the state's urban centers and dispatched thousands of lawyers in a defensive effort to avoid mistakes they made four years ago, the Bush campaign concentrated on the new face of Florida, winning a margin of nearly 20,000 votes in Pasco and racking up many thousands more in counties like it.

What happened in Pasco County is what happened in suburban and rural communities throughout Florida. The Bush campaign lavished these communities with attention while Senator John Kerry's campaign and the independent groups working on its behalf invested most of their resources in cities like Miami, Fort Lauderdale, Tampa and Orlando. The Republican strategy succeeded most along the Interstate 4 corridor in central Florida, where Mr. Bush's pledges to quash terrorism and promote traditional values appealed to the mostly white, middle-class, religious-leaning population.

Mr. Bush held rallies in out-of-the-way places like Gainesville, Niceville, New Port Richey and the Villages, a giant subdivision in Central Florida, while not neglecting conservative cities like Pensacola and even making several stops in Palm Beach County, a Democratic stronghold. But it was aggressive grass-roots efforts in new population centers like Pasco that Republicans say turned out record numbers of Bush supporters on Election Day, expanding a 537-vote margin four years ago to nearly 400,000 votes this year.

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