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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 09:04 PM
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Why the "moral values" meme is our FRIEND...MUST READ!!!
As I posted on some other thread yesterday, the notion that it was really a huge influx of fundamentalists that tipped the election to Bush is dubious, and, according to DailyKos, Republican insiders are furious with Ralph Reed for pushing the idea so heavily. However, the very reasons they don't like it (it undercuts the G.O.P. insider belief that the election was really decided by widespread support for Bush's economic and military leadership :eyes: , and may provoke a backlash among those who don't want the religious right running America) are the very reasons we need to push it as much as we can, and establish a new narrative wherein we're the last bulwark for freedom against fundamentalism.

Now, further support for this viewpoint comes from Chris Bowers at MyDD.com. The entire article (http://www.mydd.com/story/2004/11/5/154845/775#readmore) is "must" reading, but I'll just quote the closing paragraphs here (emphasis mine):

...While we should not hope to develop the same level of unifying message and religious appeal that Republicans have spent decades cultivating, we do have other options. Specifically, we do have the option of completely boxing them into their current worldview, while simultaneously tarnishing the public perception of that worldview. This is exactly what Republicans have done to our coalition for decades, by pumping up the anti-black, anti-gay, anti-secular, anti-jewish, and, most recently, anti-Muslin rhetoric that has tipped minority after minority into our coalition while simultaneously, and more rapidly, increasing their own share of the national ethnic and religious plurality. In 2000, Bush nearly won a super-majority among Muslims, but in 2004 he won less than 15%. However, Republicans managed to make up more ground than they lost in forfeiting the Muslim vote by fueling the fires of anti-Muslin bigotry among the national religious and ethnic plurality. In the sixties, when Nixon, in the "original Southern Strategy," began demonizing African-Americans, our coalition gained blacks but lost southern whites in droves. Republicans did the same thing with rural voters by developing a culture war narrative, accurately described by Thomas Frank, which is rife with anti-Semitism. They are now in the process of making up the ground they are rapidly losing among Secularist voters by bringing in devout Catholics. The only minority they stopped demonizing are Latinos because, well, Latinos tend to be devout Catholics.

What I am hinting at here, and it is certainly not the nicest or most progressive thing I have ever written, is engaging in a strategy to demonize the religious right in the same way Republicans have demonized liberalism. As a recent diary at Dailykos concerning the demographics of national religious belief points out, we can do this and get away with it. Less than one-quarter of the country is actually a part of the cultural warrior religious right. We label them theocrats. We label them homophobes (and yes, we can and should use the word homophobe). We label them anti-freedom. We label them out of touch with our values. We do this because they are these things. We could label them as terrorists, because as lot of them are. We could label them corporate socialists, because they are. We label them regional bigots, because they are. We should label them anti-American, because they are, and because they have done the same to us. We destroy conservatism itself by defining it as being a member of the reactionary religious right. We tarnish the notion of being conservative to the entire nation. We trap all conservatism inside the reactionary right-wing ideology of the Christian Coalition with a permanent campaign that seeks to define that ideology as negative to the vast majority of the country that does not hold that ideology (it doesn't). Thus, our amalgamation of minorities will become the mainstream, while their homogenized national plurality becomes fringe.

As they continue to solidify and homogenize their base (with the exception of Latinos), we attack them precisely for being homogeneous. That is our unifying theme: anti-reactionary religious right, but pro-freedom, pro-good works, and pro-American. We drive a wedge straight into their coalition, and watch in delight as every libertarian Republican in sight comes over to our side. We decrease their already small share of minorities even further and humiliate them for their bigoted homogeny. We define and tarnish conservatism, and make our natural unifying theme that we are not them.

Wow, I almost feel dirty just for writing that, but I think it is what has to be done. I can't wait to see the comments on this one.


Here's my comment: :yourock:
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 09:07 PM
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1. You should have heard Jesse Jackson today
at Rainbow PUSH. He ripped the religious right a new one and exposed the hypocracy of their false morality. Jesse knows exactly where the party should be.
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itzamirakul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 09:16 AM
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18. Rev. Al Sharton on AAR right now (9:00 AM Sunday)
Discussing election and what the Democratic Future should be. Says his divorce is private and decision should be respected.

Says the important people who were out campaigning for Kerry were NOT consulted about the concession.

Discussion with guests on translating liberal moral values and communicating those values with the public.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 09:08 PM
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2. Whoever wrote that...
should be working at DNC headquarters, in a corner office.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 10:29 PM
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13. I think Dems have to split from the DNC - is that crazy?
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 09:11 PM
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3. Exactly - divide and conquer
We have to make it clear that these radical extremists are NOT Christians and that they are a DANGER to Christians.

We have to split them off from the majority, and demonize them.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 09:37 AM
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19. Oldtime Christians v. End Times Christians. Oldtime GOP v. End Times GOP
Let's go get those Bush bastards.
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HappinessPie Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 09:11 PM
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4. This is great - I'm glad there are some thinkers out there on this issue!!
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 09:14 PM
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5. This will be the last time the Fundies come out for the Republicans in
such high numbers. Bush is the one and only candidate who could pull off the balancing act of getting the Fundies to come out and getting enough people from the center to win. I don't see anyone from the Republican Party who could pull this off next time. Everyone else is too close to the middle. McCain had some vicious words for the Religious Right so I can promise you they won't come out for him.
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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 09:24 PM
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6. Factious Xtians e-mails have started

It's time to put fourth our mandate. We need to show that we're serious and state categorically that any SCOTUS openings will be filled with anti-abortion justices.

Secondly, we want a Christian liaison in the White House, who will guide and make final judgments on all decisions and executive orders ensuring that Christian values are adhered to.

Thirdly, President Bush must ensure that Hollywood and all other media accessible to our children must be held by law to a highest standard of Christian values.

Fourth, there will be a significant effort in the White House to ensure that the separation of church and state, as stated in the constitution, be remediated. After all, this country was founded by Christians. We feel that the Founding Fathers made a mistake. However, we are heartened by recent efforts by the Bush administration to fund Christian Organizations and has in effect begun to tear down this wall.

Fifth, we feel Christian faith guides us and IT should guide the country. Since this country was founded on Christian values, we must insist that Atheists, Heathens, Wiccans, and assorted non-Christian beliefs not be given equal status and justly discouraged.

We will hold this administration accountable for making earnest attempts, if not actual realization, of our demands. If our requests are ignored we will not support Republican candidates in future elections regardless their claims of morality.

Please e-mail this around.
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Kimber Scott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 09:31 PM
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8. Where did this come from? Is it legit, or did you just write it? nt
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Catt03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 09:43 PM
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11. link to this? (nt)
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 12:17 AM
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16. I can hear the cuckoo singing in the cuckooberry tree...
Secondly, we want a Christian liaison in the White House, who will guide and make final judgments on all decisions and executive orders ensuring that Christian values are adhered to.

In other words, they don't trust Bush to be on their side, so they want an uber-fundie looking over his shoulder to make sure he toes the line???

:crazy:
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 09:28 PM
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7. demonize fundamentalism, absolutely, i tried here
catholics, they call you unchristian and heathens. methodist they say you are lazy christians, and all the rest, simply going to hell. one minister in penn? wants to bring stoning back. that should make a few shutter
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JennC Donating Member (115 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 09:40 PM
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9. Beautiful and goes hand in hand with changing wording like anti choice etc
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democratreformed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 09:43 PM
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10. What do you think about this?
About three years ago, the pastor at the church where my son attends school left to do some important work to "bring the different churches together". I'm not kidding. It was never really explained exactly what he would be doing or how he would make a living at it. It was just said that "God called him to do this important work."

Looking back, I am wondering if this ties in to what happened with them in this election.

This election has also caused a conflict within myself because my son goes to school there. It's a long story about how the public school failed him (in my opinion, it was THEIR failure not his). I have tolerated the religious stuff for the past four years so that I could see him learn. I have supported the school avidly. Last night, they had their last volleyball game. We have always been sure to not eat so that we could buy their food at the concession stand and help them further. Well, last night, I thought "I'll be damned". We still didn't eat before we went, but I wasn't about to spend any more money there. I wouldn't even let my son buy candy like I usually do. We waited until after the game and then went to eat.

Now, I am really conflicted. I don't know if I want to keep him there. But, I am afraid to send him back to public school. I just don't know what to do.
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baby_mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 10:28 PM
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12. My comment

MAKE IT SO.
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doni_georgia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 11:33 PM
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14. I'm way ahead of you, bro!
I saw the potential for this several weeks ago - both the issue and the potential for exactly what we face now - and have been posting here regularly to try to give folks some good talking points for the issue.

You do not need to feel guilty about demonizing the Religious Right. All you have to do is hold up direct quotes from Jesus, contrast them with the actions of some of the more obvious Righties, and finish with: "By their works shall ye know them." They're already in a box. All we have to do is close the lid and make them own their actions.

What we need is a committee on Christian Left that can run advertisements... show scenes from the war, closed factories, homeless people, polluted rivers, etc. and superimpose Biblicasl quotations decrying these things.

And at the end, a black screen, with four white words: "What would Jesus do?"

Mac in Ga


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OnionPatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 11:59 PM
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15. Yes, I think this is exactly what we should do!
Edited on Sun Nov-07-04 12:02 AM by OnionPatch
I was sick for two and a half days after the election. Then I talked to my sister whose husband was going to vote for Bush. (But never made it to the polls.) She said that they had argued after the election. She told him abortion would be illegal soon and he was laughing and saying, "No way." He's your typical I-don't-want-to-pay-my-taxes kind of rightie, and not religious at all. In fact, most of the Bush voters I know are actually afraid of the religious right. The realization came to me that these Bush voters don't realize how dangerously close we are coming to being under the rule of the American Taliban but I don't think they will be able to miss it soon. I'm willing to bet that the religious right will drive this type of Bush voter away from the GOP by the droves. The thought cheered me up.
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meti57b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 06:58 AM
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17. ::KICK::
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 09:42 AM
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20. Label them "evangelists" and watch them squirm
Did you see Alan Simpson on Maher show?
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mainer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 09:44 AM
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21. No -- emphasize that evangelicals are the IMMORAL ones
While we librul northeasterners are the ones who believe in true family values:

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2004/10/31/walking_the_walk_on_family_values/
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