Man commits suicide because Bush reelected

[JudyM]

It was just reported on Air America Radio that a 25 year old man shot himself at the old world trade center site out of anguish that Bush was reelected. The man was opposed to the war in Iraq.

(thanks for link)

The 25 year old man was Andrew Veal, from Georgia. He killed himself with a shotgun.

[Maddy McCall]

1. I was wondering if some people would do this.

So sad. Very sad.

[Warpy]

18. If you know what's coming

(and a lot of posters here do), it can get awfully discouraging. I'm not in bad shape yet, but if it gets bad, I do have my ticket out, too.

I'd rather a quick trip than a slow freezing and starving on the street. If that's what it comes down to, I'm prepared.

However, until and unless it gets that bad, I'll delight in being a constant irritant to smug right wingers. I really do want to last long enough to see those smug expressions change as the awful truth finally dawns on them: they were wrong and we were right.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

2. Bless him and keep him close.

God and all of us. Please, do you have a name?

[ibegurpard]

3. That could've been me

That's how I was feeling Tuesday night.

[Ladyhawk]

14. It could be me, too.

Tonight my mind was thinking things it probably shouldn't.

[ibegurpard]

17. Just remember

That's the FINAL solution. No going back. You'll never get the chance to see if things DO get better.

[liberalmuse]

19. You know you aren't alone...

many here feel pretty distraught. We need as many awake and compassionate souls as we can get, so please stick around and we'll fight these bastards--for those who come after us.

Now I'm kind of worried that once people hear about this, anyone who's seriously thought about it will do the same. I hope I'm wrong.

[seabeyond]

27. hey no no, if you are feeling this

maybe you ought to step out of the political for a while. go outside, feel the breeze on your cheeks, the glorious sunsets, the life in abundance. if you have children play in the laughter, hold them close and smell their smell.

but nah, in the now, the is sunshine and laughter and lite

truly what ever is happening i see it as a great awakening. not for you, you can already see, this lesson isnt for you, but for so many others. and we couldnt have a better pawn than the incompetitant bush for people to see. geez he can be the one that brings it all to balance in a flash for so many sheep.

divine plan. higher in all things

certainly not worth this. need a breather, take it

[JudyM]

29. Don't go there

We're all despondent... and we'll get through it. I heard that lawsuits are being planned against Diebold, and the truth will come to light. At least it will become clear that Bush does NOT have a mandate.

[harpo]

53. I'm with ya

[alevensalor]

4. It's on RawStory

http://rawstory.com

~A!

[liberalmuse]

24. Anyone read this???

Visitors there yesterday reacted in different ways to news of Veal's suicide. Bobbie Jensen, 54, a Republican from Phoenix, said that while she understood how Bush's victory disturbed those who dislike him, Ground Zero is not the place to act on those emotions.

"You can be upset about the war, about Bush, but this is a sacred place," she said. "You got to accept what happened and not kill yourself." But Frank Franca, an East Village artist and registered Democrat, suggested the suicide was symbolic.

I guess a place is more sacred than a human life. These people are fucking heartless.

[OldLeftieLawyer]

35. Remember that bitch in "F9/11"?

The weeping mother of the son killed in Iraq was trying to get into the White House, and some twat told her to get over it, or something like that.

Bet she voted straight Goat Boy, that miserable bitch.

[georgia-demogirl]

37. Love that Repub "morality"

If they are Christians, then I will burn in hell! God I hate them!

[Kimber Scott]

5. I knew it would happen to somebody. Poor thing. We could have used

his passion as we continue to soldier on.

P.S. To everybody who thinks this is a way out - Don't die until they kill you. They don't care, but we do and your family does and the universe will notice the whole where you once stood. These bastards aren't worth it.

[SCRUBDASHRUB]

15. I, too, was worried someone would do this. Horrible. May he rest in

peace. So sad.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

20. I agree.

I was expecting this as well, considering my crisis work experience. I hope we don't know this person, you know?

[OldLeftieLawyer]

36. Remember the ending of "Dr. Strangelove"

Take as many of them with you as you can.

[GoBlue]

6. link?

http://www.wnbc.com/news/3897234/detail.html

doesn't mention B*

[bones_7672]

7. that's just whack that he whacked himself

It's just an election, in four years there'll be a new president elect, maybe four years after that another one. This guy had some big mental problems before 11/2

[noiretextatique]

12. severely depressed...poor guy

i understand how he felt. another body for the bush body count site.

[RevCheesehead]

25. JUST an election?

Since you haven't been here at DU very long, I'll give you a pass... but DO NOT disregard the deep emotions of anger and despair. We foresee several disasters ahead, and there, but for the grace of God go many of us.

And if you think the 2008 election will be fair....time will tell.

[SammyWinstonJack]

30. Just an election?

Apparently this poor soul didn't feel that way.

[LoZoccolo]

8. Link.

http://www.newsday.com/news/local/newyork/nyc-suic1107,0,7756290.story?coll=ny-nynews-headlines

[WildClarySage]

9. Damn, that's one less dem voter

for '06.

[liberalmuse]

10. Oh, I'd thought about it for the past few years...

but I have a daughter, and being that my father and brother both committed suicide, I'd never do that to her or my sister and nephew. It was going to be something dramatic, like jumping off a building with a sign expressing how I felt about Bush, his supporters and the war.

This is very sad. :(

On edit: Oh shit. I hope it isn't anyone from DU. Not that it matters because this young man was one of us.

[Kimber Scott]

13. See my post above. Please, don't give in to the bastards. They don't

care. You're right to think of your family first. My grandmother committed suicide when I was 17 and I'm still reeling from it. I'm 43 now.

If they want to kill you, fight like hell. Don't do it for them.

[HappinessPie]

11. Terrible news. That's so incredibly sad.

[AlbertoMo83]

16. Damn....

That really sucks, poor guy. :cry: I could understand how he felt though. Hopefully he's in a better place. My thoughts are with his family.

[hlthe2b]

21. I've feared this.... May he find peace...

[Skittles]

22. that's not the reason why

it's the one that drove him over the edge after a lifetime of being unable to cope

[Cat Atomic]

26. Yeah.

That sounds alot more likely. A person doesn't just go from healthy to suicidal because of a lost election.

[Skittles]

28. stuff like this trivializes a very serious illness

people don't decide to off themselves over one event - I can guarantee you that poor wretched soul had considered suicide long before he'd even heard of our evil bastard president

[Ladyhawk]

41. The shrub made my depression so much worse.

I had shock treatments in 2000, then when I finally realized what Bush* was, I had a relapse.

Yes, this lost election will cause suicides among those who were already despairing. I bet the suicide rate goes up drastically during the next few months. Didn't you know that suicide rates and abortion rates both go up when Republicans are in power?

I don't know if I'll make it to 2008. That's one of the reasons I'm so pissed at Kerry. I was counting on him to buy me some time to treat my Depression instead of fight it every day along with the fear that washes over me every time I realize who is in the White House and that every person I ever knew worships the ground he walks on.

I'm tough to have made it this far. My illness has lasted over half my life. Those who have not been through it have no idea what it's like. So, unless you've gone through shock treatments you knew might leave permanent brain damage, don't preach to me.

[CornField]

23. What a complete and utter shame.

No one else -- not even one. Talk to us here -- call someone -- life is entirely too precious and our collective fight is going to need each and every person available.

:cry:

[MrSlayer]

31. Well that's a Dem vote in a southern state we won't get back.

We need all we can get, this guy selfishly did not help the situation. :evilgrin:

[Cookie wookie]

32. The most discouranging thing is to

listen to any news on the corporate media. What comes from them is pure propaganda and we know it and it makes us crazy to hear it over and over.

My heart goes out to that man, what he must have been feeling, the whole life he still had ahead of him, his depth of feeling, his sense of hopelessness. And my heart goes out to his family.

"No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main.

If a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe is the less, as well as if a promontory were, as well as if a manor of they friends's or of thine own were.

Any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind. And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee."  John Donne

I hope no one will be offended by this analogy, but to me it is apt: Think of this as Paris and the Nazis have marched in. We are the resistence. We have to fight. We can not let despair overtake us.

That being said, we must grieve, but in our time of grieving we must not blame ourselves or other Dems. We did nothing wrong. We all worked as hard as we could. Everyone gave as much as they could, whether it was great or small in terms of time or financially. The campaign by the Dems and all their workers here and everywhere, and Kerry and Edwards, was fought with honesty, integrity, and honor. We are fighting an opponent that lies, cheats, steals, and yes, murders (this illegal war). They are the ones who must be brought to justice and pay for their crimes and we are the ones who must do it, no matter how discouraging it gets.

For the first time in my life, I'm getting a glimpse of what it must have felt like for Blacks in America, and particularly in the South, before the Civil Rights Act was passed and the courts started to enforce it. It was a thousand times worse for them than it is for us now. It was horrible.

This election may have been stolen via voting systems. Evidence is mounting that it was. It is up to us to fight and never surrender.

[JudyM]

45. Thanks for such a beautiful and inspiring post.

I know what you mean about the civil rights analogy - I've been thinking about that, too. Really disconnected from those in power, and not being viewed as a legitmate part of the picture whose issues warrant attention.

[Lenape85]

33. May he rest in peace

Damn murderous right wingers, I hate them so much

[GingerSnaps]

34. I walk across a bridge on my way home from College

I stopped in the middle of it and for a second I was contemplating jumping off because of Bush stealing another election.

I feel so sorry for him because he took that split second when your making a decision and went with it.

RIP O8)

[OldLeftieLawyer]

38. I wrote a novel about suicide

And, yes, it was published by a major publisher. It brought me so many letters from people whose lives had been maimed by the self-inflicted death of someone close to them.

We all think of it. Some of us daily. In this world, you have to be nuts NOT to think of it.

This poor, bedeviled young man hit his own personal wall with this "election." For some, it's as simple as not knowing what else to do next.

Just don't mock him or how he died. He was hurting. Now, his loved ones are hurting.

But, keep this in mind:

Suicide kills the actor quickly, and the survivors slowly.

[GingerSnaps]

39. I feel so sorry for him

I wonder if anyone else has committed suicide because of the stolen election.

I don't have the nerve to do it and I feel like I have died inside but something tells me that I have to go on because I will be part of the group that changes our voting system so that everyones vote counts and the person that we select is the one that wins.

Plus our water is filthy were I'm at and I would get an infection if i didn't die.

My Dad has dementia so he would never notice that I was gone. :hug:

Thanks for caring.

[DARE to HOPE]

43. Dear child, I'll rewrite a coping "manual" I wrote on DU the other day...

to a depressed college student (written Thursday morning):

As others have said, depression is NORMAL in the aftermath of this terrible loss. Sleep is a good solution once the tears are spent. I really believe in hot baths with Epsom salts, sea salt, baking soda for soothing heart and body both, and a good prelude to sleep.

Then, when energy comes back a bit, add some healthy carbs, wholegrain pasta or chicken soup, hot chocolate that is low on sugar (xylitol or stevia,) oatmeal with raisins and bananas (and coconut milk.) Add protein in as you feel a little better, especially eggs.

Then, find a tree-lined place and go for a walk. Play music that you love. Even try some classical, which can sooth the spirit.

I went to church last night, with my clergyman husband. It helped to pray, and pray the psalms, and sing the Reformation hymns. I cried so much. I had to cancel my choir, I just didn't have the energy to lead anybody else. But the view of history, both American and Christian history, is full of examples of times of loss, of devastation. I think of Dietrich Bonhoeffer, of Corrie ten Boem over against the Nazis in Germany. Knowing that God/the Universe really IS filled with love for us, despite how things feel right now, is a powerful antidote to the sword through the heart that we are all experiencing.

Evil men have always done evil things to grasp power. And America is such a prize, the most powerful, rich country on earth, though they are trying to choke us.

Nevertheless, I alone am responsible for my life. And I DO NOT CONSENT to the evil they are doing. Whatever positive action, writing, thoughts I can have in my own area of living offsets the evil in the world. Love DOES conquer in the end, I do believe this. Truth, Faith, Hope, Love are the values to live by which do produce real results, and inoculate one against the real mud of wickedness in the world. Ferret out the Truth! Hold onto the Faith, in your country, in your countrymen. Find and remind yourself and others of reasons for Hope. And...the hardest...Love even your enemies, but first, yourself, your loved ones, your very life in this world.

God IS Love. And this usurper, this heretic, this pitiful shell of a "president" can NOT destroy that, break through that shell around us, any more than he can speak the truth about anything. Bask in the Love of God. And believe that God is FOR you, has a role for you, has a reason you were made so uniquely and live among the people you do.

And by then, your eyes will be opened, you can stretch and look around you, and see the blessings that are still there, and the blessing you are. TBG. There is plenty of work out there for each of us. God bless.

[signmike]

40. A waste

He could have taken some of them with him

[Borgnine]

42. The first causuality of the next four years.

Sigh.

[NightTrain]

44. Nice going, "moral values" crowd!

:grr::nuke:

[PlanetBev]

48. Oh my God, I thought about this same thing this morning

Wondered if anyone would commit suicide. I feel so bad that I can relate.

God send this nest of vipers called the GOP to hell.

[AuntPatsy]

46. May he rest in peace, his death was symbolic in my mind, not only

where he chose to end his life but the reasons why. Take into consideration where he was from, he obviously owned a guy, I am without a doubt that the reasons he chose to end his life are valid.

There is no telling what he had been subjected to these past three years, I know personaly, I have heard the most disqusting pathetic rhetoric directed against my views by those who claim to hold the moral values of our country hands down...

In my mind, another lost soul lays more blood onto the hands of those who voted for this war brought upon us by the most corrupt adminsitration this nation has ever seen with little or no thought other than their own personal security..may they find judgement day akin to the destruction of what they have allowed to pass...

[doni_georgia]

47. I Peter 2:21

"This suffering is part of what God has called you to. Christ, who suffered for you, is your example. Follow in His steps. He never sinned, and He never deceived anyone. He did not retaliate when he was insulted. When He suffered, he did not threaten to get even. He left His case in the hands of God, who always judges fairly."

Remember who we are opposed to, what they are......and what they are not.

Mac in Ga

[Zep]

49. "Man commits suicide because Bush reelected"

There's really no evidence of why he killed himself. There
was no note or anything like that.

Every time a Kerry supporter commits suicide, is the press
going to say it was over the election?

[JudyM]

51. The article says that's what his family felt caused him to take his life

[AgadorSparticus]

50. omg, that poor guy!! i'm so sad to hear that someone committed

suicide over bush. Blessings to him wherever he is now....

[jdj]

52. all they will say is "one less liberal to worry about"

god bless this man, Andrew Veal, may he help us from the other side.

I have felt deep grief these last few days.

I can see how it would push someone fragile ove the edge.