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AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 09:16 PM
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Let the Dem party know how you feel...questionaire inside
I was sent this questionnaire from the DNC. Who knows if they really will look them over but I was able to vent as to why I feel me lost this last election...everything from E-voting fraud to running a weak campaign.

Here is the link if you feel so inclined: http://www.democrats.org/feedback/
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 09:20 PM
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1. I'm on their e-mail list, got the questionnaire a little while ago
and I sorta flamed 'em... Said maybe the party should be disbanded so we can start over with people who know how to do grass-roots organizing so it doesn't get blindsided again. Sack McAuliffe, put Howard Dean in charge, forget about media whore spokesmen like Begala and Stephanopoulos. And get to the bottom of the BBV fraud!
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 09:23 PM
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2. Heh.
They are gonna love me. Not nasty. Firm.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 09:25 PM
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3. me too
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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 09:26 PM
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4. included a few DU pages with mine
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 09:29 PM
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5. In their arrogant myopia,
they don't think much of DU, or so I understand. I just see that as tragically but realistically symptomatic of what just about all that's wrong with them.
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Z_I_Peevey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 09:36 PM
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6. Thank you for that link
I hope they get a lot of feedback. A LOT of feedback.

And I hope some of it gets through their thick, thick skulls.
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AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 10:55 PM
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15. your welcome
give em hell
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 09:46 PM
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7. Just read them the riot act....
on taking the morality issue away from the Repugs; not rolling over on everything; if there's another terror attack, express sadness for the victims and then slam BUsh's policies. Otherwise, they'll keep using this sort of thing over and over and we'll never win again. Don't repeat midterms 2002!
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 09:47 PM
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8. Just read them the riot act....

on taking the morality issue away from the Repugs; not rolling over on everything; if there's another terror attack, express sadness for the victims and then slam BUsh's policies. Otherwise, they'll keep using this sort of thing over and over and we'll never win again. Don't repeat midterms 2002!
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 10:00 PM
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9. They are NOT going to like what I had to say!
I told them if they didn't get rid of evoting they would never get another dime from me. I will never waste my time, money or efforts for the Democratic Party unless they investigate the 2004 stolen election and get rid of those damn machines! :grr:
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 10:04 PM
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10. Here's what I wrote for response #7
I sure wish you'd do something NOW about this stolen election. Where are those lawyers? How could you lay back and do NOTHING???? It is obvious that fraud has been committed - and yet, all you do is send me a survey to fill out????

I do not feel confident donating money to the DNC or to candidates who concede so quickly. I am glad I did NOT contribute to your "lawyer fund," since I doubt that you will be refunding any money that was contributed for those purposes.

I was a $ supporter for Russ Feingold. I will continue to support him.
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DiverDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 10:07 PM
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11. I just told them
to stop cowering in the corner and grow a backbone.
To stop letting the thugs rule.
And to get to the bottom of the evote scam.
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 10:15 PM
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12. I told them off too
They used to let corporate donors have huge tax breaks for $25,000. Now they get hundreds of millions off the net and won't even bother to fight back against the GOP when asked.

They had better soon wake up because they are no longer the ones with the power.
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 10:33 PM
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13. thanks ...
that was great ... they gave me these little tiny boxes to write in ...

i think i just wrote about a 50 page essay ... i wonder if they actually will read any of the feedback they get ...
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BelleCarolinaPeridot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 10:36 PM
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14. This is what I wrote , I DEMANDED they read what we all have to say :
Edited on Sat Nov-06-04 10:44 PM by CarolinaPeridot
I think we should actually FIGHT . When are going to stop being defeated . This should be the FINAL WAKE UP CALL . We were defeated in 2002 . Either we fight now , change the leadership of the Democratic National Committee or completely give up . Those that don't want to give up should call themselves Democrats . We should not be forced to Unite with the Right as a message of unity because that would be okaying the BS that happened during this election . We should fight . The word is FIGHT . Every vote was not counted on Tuesday night , we all know that . So stand up for us and get those votes counted !

We need new leadership and new blood in the Democratic Party or just disband ... plain and simple . We need someone who is just as evil as Karl Rove . We need new young blood in this party . Include everybody , not just some people who you think will include you in their cabinets if they win the White House . Come together right now - or just don't talk at all !

This was the first time I voted in my life . I am 24 years old . I was looking forward to election day like it was Christmas Day . I was so excited the day that I got my Voter's Registration Card in the mail . I did not sleep the night before the election because I was so excited about voting the next day . I woke up at 5:30 am to go to my polling station . I stood in line until my polling station opened . I then walked 3 miles back home proud because I voted for John Kerry - the man destined to be the President of the United States . I do not understand what happened . This was a good campaign . The message was clear - the War in Iraq was going in the wrong direction , the economy is bad , jobs are still disappearing ( in NC I hear of factories laying off people left and right each day ) , health care is just too expensive - the list goes on and on - it was time for new leadership to come to Washington , DC . But instead apparently Gay Marriage seemed more important than kids getting school books and cough medicine . I just don't get it . What the hell happened ? I can not believe that we are facing another 4 years of Bush . I don't think I can go through this . And sadly , I think the current so called Democratic Opposition that we have in Congress are weak - they are going to bow to Bush and let him get away with everything - exactly how they let him get away with everything the first 4 years . It does not matter how much of a minority the Democrats may have in the House and Senate , the people are with you , if only you will wake up and FIGHT .

I was ( and still am ) distraught , sad and shocked at what happened on election day as is many other Americans . I live in the state of North Carolina - a state with many voter irregularities . I do not understand how the state of North Carolina was called for Bush when people in my city were still waiting in long lines , waiting to vote . The streets in my town were so empty that night . It was as if there was a snow storm had covered the roads - except there was not snow - people were still at polling stations at 9 PM when it was declared that Bush was the winner of NC . I do not believe that Bush won NC in the 2000 and 2004 Presidential Elections . I also know of many voter irregularities in other counties across the state of North Carolina . This election was not fair at all . I do not understand why everyone is in a rush for the results of the election . Yes it is declared in the Constitution of the United States of America that the election must be held on the first Tuesday of November - no where is it stated that the results have to be known that night . And when did the US Media become offical election controllers - they have NO RIGHT to project the outcome of any race . They have no right to take the place of state election officals and proclaiming winners . What happened to the Early Voting ballots ? Why were they not counted yet ? The entire month of October , the state of NC held Early Voting : why are these ballots not counted each night and stored ? Why are absentee ballots not opened and counted until days after the election ? If these votes are not included in the official election results then these results are not official ! Its plain and simple ! And 64% does not equal 100% ! If every precint has not yet gave results , you can not declare a winner . There has to be changes . Big changes . This has to start now .

I see that you are offering this questionarie , which I think this is a good idea . I hope this is not in vain . I pray that you read EACH AND EVERYTHING THAT WE DEMOCRATS WRITE ! READ IT AND BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE DEMOCRATS IN AMERICA AND AROUND THE WORLD THAT ARE READY TO FIGHT ! WE ARE READY TO ROLL , BUT WE WILL NOT WAIT ON YOU THE DNC ANY LONGER , WE ARE PREPARED TO TAKE ON THIS FIGHT ALONE .
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 11:13 PM
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16. nicely said ...
if all in your generation approach politics with the same passion, we'll be fine ...
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BelleCarolinaPeridot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 11:56 PM
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18. I only hope so ...
Although I am still sad , distraught ( I am slowly coming out of my shock ) I have been inspired to work for what is right . I have been awaken . For real ...
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Nordic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 11:38 PM
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17. "Moving America Backwards One Ass-Whupping At A Time"
is what their slogan should be.

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BelleCarolinaPeridot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 11:56 PM
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19. So sad , but so true .
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antigone382 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 11:57 PM
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20. My response to the last question: warning, long
We must be more bold in pursuing our agenda. We should have learned after the midterm elections that being afraid to aggressively criticize the agenda of the Republican Party will get us nowhere. Moving toward the center does not help us as a party, as we have seen in this election; it alienates the base, and it fails to attract the more conservative voters we are trying to appeal to--Republican voters will almost always vote for the radical Republican over the moderate Democrat, no matter how much that Democrat tries to appeal to them on their own terms. The Republican vice-grip on "moral issues" does not require adapting our own beliefs to resemble those of the right wing. It requires that we seriously strive to redefine traditional American values in the public mind, to offer a rich, appealing alternative to that definition which has grown popular through the efforts of the right wing. We have the tools to do this at our disposal, and we must learn to apply them. If we are afraid to be Democrats, voters will be afraid to elect Democrats.

On another note, please consider carefully who is chosen as the next Senate Minority Leader. We need a leader who will boldly represent liberal values, who also has a strong hold on his seat. With all due respect to Senator Tom Daschle, he was not the best man for that job, on both counts, and unfortunately his prominant position cost him his Senate seat. By the same token, Senator Harry Reid is not an ideal candidate for Senate Minority Leader. He is in a typically red state, and if placed in too prominant a position, the voters may reject him during the next election, forcing us to reorganize once again, and costing us a valuable Democratic seat in a Republican-dominated Senate. Please consider carefully who you put in this position.

As for the Democratic Party Chairman, it seems generally accepted that Howard Dean will ascend to this position after Terry McAuliffe resigns. Dean is the perfect man for the job. He is an inspiring individual with an instinctive understanding of grassroots effort, and I know there are millions of Democrats just like me who will be thrilled to have him there.

Lastly, please, pay attention to the possibility of electronic voting fraud. This has been largely dismissed as a "conspiracy theory" by both parties, though it is a real and significant crisis in the American election process. I honestly don't know whether or not this election was genuinely won by George W. Bush, or whether it was rigged by people with no respect for the democratic foundations central and sacred to the core values of this country; the fact that I even have to wonder about it is disheartening, to say the least. It is truly a sad time when the United States, which is supposed to be a beacon of freedom and democracy to the world, cannot even guarantee the legitimacy of its own elections. Please, do not dismiss this issue; it goes to the core of everything we stand for, both as a party and as a nation.
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RaRa Donating Member (705 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 12:00 AM
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21. Not the classiest response, but I'm gettig old and tired.
Bye, bye Terry. You've disgraced the party for the second time. Oh, you have no shame? You plan to stay? Fuck you, you little wimp. We lost this election and country because of the DNC's insistance on being Repuke light. (The DLC has been our down-fall, in case you haven't figured it out)

Have you no honour in being a Democrat? Stop pandering to the GOP. Look at Daschle. Be proud of our legacy of fighting against big business and for real freedom. We will NEVER win another election until we turn to our strengths and stop pandering to so called independents with the Bible strapped to their brains.

My disgust for the DNC is only marginally surpassed by my disgust for Bush.

Get a new leader (like Howard Dean) and THEN ask me for money.

You suck,
"RaRa"
Illinois
REAL Democrat
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Nordic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 12:05 AM
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23. Hey, I like your tone
I sent them responses that were similar in tone.

Basically said "you suck. And here's why".

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doni_georgia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 12:02 AM
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22. Gave them an ear full
Told them that we have to return to our roots - the party of the people - the party of the little guy. Told them that we had to quit pandering to big business. Said that we had to reclaim the label "liberal" as our own and define it on our own terms and quit allowing the repukes to define it for us and most importantly stop cowering whenever the word is used. Said that we needed to stop trying to be republican lite and instead offer real alternatives. What does it mean to be a liberal? A liberal is someone who believes that the government has responsibilities to its citizens - to keep them safe, be it from crime, terrorism, or unsafe working conditions, to ensure that all Americans have a livable wage, to keep American jobs in America, to make sure that children in America have equal opportunities for education and health care, and that all Americans have clean air to breath, clean water to drink, and safe food to eat, and that all Americans are treated equally regardless of race, creed, religion, or sexual orientation. Finally to make sure that we leave this world a little better than it was left to us. That is what it means to me to be a liberal. Lastly I told them that we cannot expect to win national elections without winning locally, which means we have to get out there and work from the ground up at the grass roots level to win the hearts and minds of the American people.
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DiverDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 07:12 AM
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24. Give them your views!
We need a change, so, kick for more letters to the DNC.
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AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 12:03 PM
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25. kick
:kick:
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