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scarletlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 09:26 PM
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Just saw the movie "Ray" about Ray Charles
Edited on Sat Nov-06-04 09:32 PM by scarletlib
Two things to say about this movie: First Jamie Foxx deserves an Oscar nomination. He was incredible.

Second: There is a scene in the movie where his band plays to an integrated crowd in Indiana (this is still in the early 60's) and later that night the cops burst into his hotel room, illegally search the joint and arrest him for drug possession. The cops were pissed that white people and black people had attended the show and enjoyed themselves. The cops blamed Ray.

The hate on their faces and the cruelty with which he was treated made me say to my husband that those are the people who voted for bush and are running this country right now.

Call it morals, call it what you will, in the south it is racism that has never gone away. It is the resentment of the little man, especially if he is black, having the presumption to think he is as good as you are.

(P.S. I am southern born and bred and live in the south)

(edit title for grammar)
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DrZeeLit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 09:28 PM
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1. Excellent movie. Jamie Foxx -- yes, Oscar nom!
If he doesn't get a nomination, I won't watch the Oscars.
He'll probably win the Golden Globe.
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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 09:29 PM
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2. As I said on another thread
We have been fighting this sh*t for 150 years. We will never agree so lets not try anymore...........Lets go join Canada. Lets me honest they don't want us....so why stay?
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 09:29 PM
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3. True, but Indiana isn't necessarily 'south'
The rednecks just like to fly rebel flags and pretend we are. ;)

That type of vitriolic bile happens all over this country, unfortunately.




:hippie:
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Jon8503 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 09:56 PM
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4. Just got back from the movie and I said the same thing in that
Edited on Sat Nov-06-04 09:56 PM by Jon8503
Indiana has not changed that much & as you, that was Bush's supporters in Indiana. Also, they are all christians.
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liberalitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 10:06 PM
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7. Is this true?
my college roommate said that there was more KKK in Indiana than in Va.
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 10:10 PM
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9. Yeah it's pretty well true
I got my masters degree in IN and the town just north of Bloomington is purported to be home to the grand dragon of the KKK or something. I couldn't wait to get away....one "liberal" town didn't feel like much protection.
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 09:59 AM
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16. In the 30's Indiana's Governor was KKK...
My point was, though, that geographically Indiana isn't really a southern state. The residents of the lower half of that state just seem to engage in alot of wishful thinking.


:hippie:

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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 09:59 PM
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5. read a ray charles biography last month, gonna go
see the movie this week!

Msongs
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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 10:04 PM
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6. I've heard nothing but good things about that film. As a result...
...I'm going to see it tomorrow. And thanks for the heads-up! :yourock:
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 10:08 PM
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8. I saw Ray last weekend
And I'm with you on the Jamie Foxx deserves an Oscar nomination-- he was wonderful. Please everyone go see this movie.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 10:12 PM
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10. "an integrated crowd in Indiana" = "in the south it is racism"
Hmmm . . .


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StopThief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 10:18 PM
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11. They didn't show him playing at . . . .
the Republican Convention in 1984 for Reagan did they?
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scarletlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 07:59 AM
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13. no--the movie did not go that far
his career was just too long to cover. It stopped the movie in the 60's, gave an update on 1979 in georgia and just summarized the rest at the end.

It was an incredible movie. Jamie Foxx was Ray Charles.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 12:36 AM
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12. we should never forget that it wasn't all that long ago . . .
that segregation was perfectly legal in large areas of this country . . . the Supreme Court decision that made it illegal to prohibit interracial marriage was only in 1967 . . . we must remain vigilant to preserve our rights and liberties, particularly now that the Dominionists control every aspect of the federal government . . . "Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty" . . .
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lateo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 08:04 AM
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14. I was born and raised in the south too.
And this is a picture of our heritage. Shameful.



The message says..."this nigger voted"...and they still haven't gotten over it.

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itzamirakul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 08:22 AM
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15. Dismantling Civil Rights Laws on Republican Agenda
When you saw that wide swatch of red spread out over the middle and south of the map on election night, you weren't seeing people voting against abortion, or gay rights, what you saw were people who have been fed race hatred by Rush Limbaugh on a daily basis. Hatred that said that all blacks are on welfare, are lazy and want something to be "given" to them... and that blacks on welfare are living "big" on the white man's dime. He has fed them the idea that somehow, blacks are getting "more than their share" at the expense of white Americans, even though government statistics show that far more whites recieve welfare than do blacks. Many of these poor whites feel put upon, as though every bit of their suffering can be directly traced to black Americans and it was this closeted bigotry that painted all of those states red.

When Reagan came into power it was the beginning of the end of Civil Rights Laws. I heard a newscaster on AAR say that one white man said, he would be willing to work for a dollar an hour if only segregation would come back. We never look into the real meaning of "Family Values," a racist code word for a return to Jim Crow and UNEQUAL rights.

Ask yourself why Bush's largest rallies were held in rural Ohio, a strongbed of white supremacist activity? Do you think that he plans to disappoint these loyal supporters?

Unfortunately, everyone considers RACISM too hot a topic to discuss openly and this is one of the things that will keep the Democrats in a losing position because it is only when we come out with the truth and say to the Republicans, "Explain to us in clear, concise terms, EXACTLY what you mean by "Family Values" will we ever begin to inform the Republicans that might be ignorant of the hidden agenda. Just like I was furious when Kerry kept saying that Bush MISLED the nation instead of saying, "Bush LIED to us" we can't get anywhere until the hard topics are publicly addressed.
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