Message from Thomas Jefferson to the Religious Right and Shrub

[Quixote1818]

“I never told my own religion nor scrutinized that of another. I never attempted to make a convert, nor wished to change another’s creed. I have ever judged another’s religion by their lives…for it is in our lives, and not from our words, that our religion must be read.” Thomas Jefferson

TJ Where are you now when we need you to set the country straight?

[Maple]

1. Would he be elected today?

Doubters

[Senator Lamb]

5. a lot of the greats woudnt be electable

maybe that would explain our current medicrotiy in our leaders.

[lateo]

6. No he wouldn't be elected today.

TJ famously, or not so famously, quipped “I am still looking with fondness towards a reconciliation with Great Britain”, said Thomas Jefferson.

This was several days after the first blood was spilled in the Revolutionary war.

Flip Flopper! Traitor! Appeastment is for Communists!

[msongs]

2. Heres another jefferson quote posted by elizabeth edwards;

"A little patience, and we shall see the reign of witches pass over, their spells dissolve, and the people, recovering their true sight, restore their government to its true principles. It is true that in the meantime we are suffering deeply in spirit, and incurring the horrors of a war and long oppressions of enormous public debt. If the game runs sometimes against us at home we must have patience till luck turns, and then we shall have an opportunity of winning back the principles we have lost, for this is a game where principles are at stake."

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[freetobegay]

3. I wish some people here would head those words.

[mhr]

4. When I Think America And The Founding Fathers

I think Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin!

[Quixote1818]

7. Another great TJ quote:

"No man be compelled to frequent or support any religious worship, place, or ministry whatsoever, nor be enforced, restrained, molested, or burthened in his body or goods, nor ... otherwise suffer on account of his religious opinions or belief ... All men be free to profess and by argument to maintain their opinions in matters of religion, and ... the same in no wise diminish, enlarge, or affect their civil capacities."
-- Thomas Jefferson: Statute for Religious Freedom, 1779. Papers

[MatrixEscape]

8. I have always admired and respected TJ! n/t

[deadparrot]

9. "Dissent is the highest form of patriotism."

Take that, you right-wing whackjobs.

[Cats Against Frist]

11. Everyone here is acting as if the authoritarian right gives a

rat's ass about Thomas Jefferson, anymore. TJ got his big ideas from France. And we know about France.

[harpo]

13. completely agree...it is OUR country

[BamaGirl]

10. I have many favored Jefferson quotes.

"Christianity...(has become) the most perverted system that ever shone on man. ...Rogueries, absurdities and untruths were perpetrated upon the teachings of Jesus by a large band of dupes and importers led by Paul, the first great corrupter of the teaching of Jesus."


"I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between church and state." Letter to the Danbury Baptist Association, January 1, 1802


"Is uniformity attainable? Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined, imprisoned; yet we have not advanced an inch towards uniformity. What has been the effect of coercion? To make one half the world fools, and the other half hypocrites. To support roguery and error all over the earth." "Notes on Virginia"


Jefferson would be absolutely horrifed at the current state of events in America.

[Quixote1818]

12. Yes, I think TJ had high hopes that free thought would take over

and the spiritual truths of the Universe would become personal and individual with reason and trial and error leading the way constantly redefining what is truth as new information comes to light.

"For here we are not afraid to follow truth wherever it may lead, nor to tolerate any error so long as reason is left free to combat it." TJ