Exit polls?

[KYDEM]

How is it they are trying to tell us it was the exit polls that were wrong at the same time they try to explain that it was the moral values issue that gave * the vote using the same polls?

[splat]

1. faith-based press; the system is right, their own polls must be bad

[knowbody0]

2. in such bliss over winning

keeping their jobs etc, they are really being careless now

[berner59]

3. I've wondered that too...

They can't have it both ways... It makes me sick that the press has run with this thing too - and now turned this country into the red states (good moral values) and blue states (not good moral values...and THEN talk of how we need to unite...what BS!!!

[kittenpants]

6. maybe they are contradictory in our bizarro amerika ...

where morals means killing 100,000 civilians and the exit polls and vote counts end up reversed. It's like opposite day, except 8 years of it.;(

[smiley_glad_hands]

4. You mean you still watch the news?eom

[BayStateBoy]

5. Someone Needs to Investigate Further These Anomalies

The mainstream news media have been spoon fed a new word by Bush/Rove. That word is "evangelical," and they are babbling it excitedly like babes at a day care to the exclusion of some very real issues impacting the Bush Presidency.

The second Bush/Rove pabulum is the Bush "mandate," also being belched along with the evangelical pill. Meanwhile, no one seems to entertain the possibility that the Bush "mandate" may mostly be an Electoral WMD.

That is not to imply that Republican grassroots efforts, moral values, the evangelical vote were important especially in Ohio. No question. Kerry was up against it in a nation voting with its Bible and belly instead of its brain, but a loss in Florida is much harder to explain. But, those issues are instantly eclipsed by the following:

1. Electronic (BBV) voting, or any voting method that does not leave a permanent paper trail which can be audited is a felony to democracy.

The legitimacy of democratic elections is predicated upon the electorate's ability to verify election results. To deny the people or any candidate the option of a recount is directly contrary to the democratic principles upon which this nation was founded. Therefore any voting method not leaving a permanent verifiable record should be eradicated forever from the American political landscape.

2. Re: Exit polling, please no more excuses or distortions. Exit polling always correlates within 2% with voting tallies. We need answers, or in the absence thereof, a serious investigation of the following facts:

a. In Election 2004 the only exit polls that did not correlate closely with voting tallies were in states using BBV or a combination of methods including electronic machines. http://www.bluelemur.com/index.php?p=388" WHY?

b. In Election 2004, in every instance where there was significant statistical discrepancy between the exit polls and the voting tallies, George W. Bush was the recipient of additional votes and never John Kerry. WHY?

WI +4B MN +7B NC +9B FL +7B OH +6B CO +4B PA +5B NH +15B
NM +3B


http://www.washingtondispatch.com/spectrum/archives/000715.html
http://ustogether.org/Florida_Election.htm

http://www.michigancityin.com/articles/2004/11/04/news/news02.txt

***The statistical probability of a & b resulting from something other than random chance will be published shortly.

c. "The last wave of national exit polls we received, along with many other subscribers, showed Kerry winning the popular vote by 51 percent to 48 percent." http://nytimes.com/2004/11/05/politics/campaign/05poll.html

If you think that I am screaming fraud, you are missing the point. I submit that these issues should be thoroughly investigated, not in any attempt necessarily to overturn the election, but to pursue the truth which is the mainstay of any democracy and which used to be the heart and soul of news journalism.

[KYDEM]

7. I just don't get how they can

have it both ways if they are saying the polls are unreliable then how can they use them for any other purpose?

[DenaliDemocrat]

8. What I want to know

is why no one is questioning the discrepancy. I mean, exit polls seemed to work really well until Bush started running for President. How come they seem to suck so bad now? Why doesn't the media cover this?

[KYDEM]

9. Exact same questions

I have been asking myself why just the last few elections they are are so wrong? Except from other postings they were right in areas not using touch screen machines. Seems like these are the common sense questions that should be asked? This is why the voting results should be investigated.