Vote Count "Glitches" Haunt Bush's Supposed Mandate

[hangloose]

Story found at the Washington Dispatch, you bloggers should be proud.
(www.washingtondispatch.com)

While Democratic leaders have gone missing since the November 2nd election, activists on the web and radio have overcome their post election depression and are beginning to investigate the vote count irregularities across the nation.

Due to a discovery by members of DemocraticUnderground.com, the City of Gahanna in Ohio discovered a discrepancy that gave 4,000 votes to George Bush. After media scrutiny, city officials have admitted to an electronic "glitch" that caused the problem.

In Florida, errors in software code caused a referendum on gambling to be completely overturned. The error caused totals to count backwards after reaching a ceiling of 32,500 votes. The problem existed in the 2002 election as well however the issue was never resolved by the manufacturer of the electronic voting machine.

Even in North Carolina, a Craven County district logged 11,283 more votes than voters and actually overturned the results of a regional race.

Now that activists on the web know the signs of error or fraud, expect a rash of reports over the next week and corrections by county officials across the nation.


Additionally, the group BlackBoxVoting.org has started a series of Freedom of Information Act requests to examine electronic voting machines and possibly petition for a manual recount across many states

[slinkerwink]

1. sweet! I want more things to be haunting Bush!

[Cobalt Violet]

5. The Haunting of the President.

Sounds like a movie.

[Paul Hood]

19. I love it. Nice pun. n/t

[Seabiscuit]

66. Hey, Yellow Rogue of Texas:

BOO!!!

[Kimber Scott]

2. Who is "Washington Dispatch?" Do you have a link? Thanks! nt

[hangloose]

7. here ya go!

http://www.washingtondispatch.com

[Kimber Scott]

13. Duh! Thanks. I wish it was a mainstream paper. I'm waiting... nt

[aquart]

3. "Democratic leaders have gone missing..."

Glad someone noticed.

[ogradda]

9. yes i sure as shit noticed

not at all happy about it either:mad:

[NicRic]

84. two time losers !

This is my one thosand post and Iam so sorry that the title is so negative .When I talk about two time losers ,Iam not speaking of the DEMS here at DU or the Democrat voters accross this country. Iam talking about the loser mentality of the Dem leadership ,which seems to be so afraid of the bush gang that not one single one of them Iam aware of will even whisper the word "another stolen election" ! Oh imagine how terrible it would be when the other side calls them sore losers. Apprently its much more important to them to be friendly with bush and his group ,then to do what was promised to the voters they represent, that no matter how long it takes ,every vote would be counted. I subspected months ago that the fix was in ,we have been warned for months about the diebold voting machines. The media was reporting that dozens of attorneys accross the country, where keeping an eye on the vote making sure every vote was counted ! Now the election is over ,Kerry conceded, and the media wont even discuss any possible funny stuff happening in this election. Bush watching the results come in, had the smug ,I know Iam going to win look on his face. Just like 2000 , bush has the nerve to declare the people have spoken ,showing his mind set of believeing he has a mandate ! He will use this mind set to bully us Dems over the next four years. Can we depend on the Dem leaders to stand up to him ,I doubt it. People do not like staying with a losing team ,when it wont even stand up for itself and cry foul ,when there has indeed been one ! Iam so tired of standing up and arguing with uninformed people that have no idea of just how extreme of leaders they have handed the future of our country to. I believed John Kerry ,who as a young man showed so much bravery, would not fold so quickly B/4 making sure nothing was done to the votes. They also let the bushes get away with claiming they hold some higher morals ,when the opposite is true. Why was it not pointed out that a true man of God does not jump to war when thousands of peoples lives are at stake. A true man of God does not seem to find so much pleasure in talking about killing. Most importantly that part of what makes this country great is keeping religon out of Goverment, and that God will not look kindly on those who use religon as a way to advance their politicial career. I told myself if the American voters where stupid enough to elect someone who so obviously has a lack of intelligence, a closed mind , and believes its his way or the highway ! That I was boycotting politics at least untill the next election. Apprently Iam a politicial junkie ,cause Iam mad enough and care enough. I want us Dems,to do whatever we have to thru the system to make bushes next four years worst then what they did to Clinton for the entire eight years he held the office, will that happen ,not if you go by the actions of the Dem leadership in bushes frist 4 years !

[flygal]

32. Right - where the hell is everybody?!!

Are they all just waiting for DU to do all their work for them?

[NVMojo]

61. flygal, I think you are right, they are waiting for DU...

[wryter2000]

65. Edwards' wife was just diagnosed with cancer

They've been going non-stop for weeks. Can't they have a little down time? For pity's sake.

[Seabiscuit]

68. John Edwards and his wife deserve some down time.

Kerry, Clinton and McAuliff don't.

[wryter2000]

74. Clinton just had major heart surgery

Although I will admit that I want to smack him for some of his post-election comments, so I guess I agree with you, after all.

[Seabiscuit]

77. Good - Clinton's back on his feet and deserves a good smack.

[Seabiscuit]

67. Maybe they don't deserve us.

Seriously I'm utterly disgusted - with crap e-mails from Kerry, Clinton, and Terry McAuliff - I send my angry responses and apparently they all have they're e-mail inboxes blocked so all my responses bounce right back. They're all hiding behind a cyber-magnetic wall.

Fuckin' DLC.

I tried to warn people in 2002 and 2003 about the DLC on various sites yet they all mocked Howard Dean and got their guy nominated - and sure as shit, he and the rest of that spineless crowd are now all AWOL.

[harpo]

76. yeah where the hell did they go?

[Carolab]

4. Link? n/t

[hangloose]

10. Sorry should have placed on the orginal message

http://www.washingtondispatch.com

[LibertyorDeath]

6. Mandate my fucking ass did you see the little shit weasel

at his press conference all puffed up like Mussolini

I only take one question now No follow ups. I have a Mandate
Political Capital. What a Complete fucking Wanker.

I only take One question FUCK YOU & THE VOTING MACHINES YOU RODE IN ON YOU FASCIST PIECE OF SHIT!

[The Minus World]

12. Maintain your Anger

What the democratic party does not need right now is to stick its head in the ground, saying, "Woe is me! We need to regroup! Where ever could have we gone wrong?"

This is fraud, and we need to get so damn loud about it that the media will not be able to ignore us.

[LibertyorDeath]

17. "Maintain your Anger"

Not a problem!

These people are out and out Fascists any group that would willfully subvert Democracy like this is Fascist.

[countmyvote4real]

18. But how do you really feel?

Your subtext is very similar to mine.

The * administration is guilty of war crimes and should be prosecuted for them. Under their leadership the USA has become a rogue nation, guilty of all kinds of human and civil rights abuse.

It's the "Enron" of America and I have to wonder if we'll even have this board two or three years from now.

[nolabels]

44. The board is a target also? the miscreants have quite the appetite,.......

I would have never guessed that, I wonder why some find us offensive :evilgrin:

Imagine in your wildest dreams going out and trying to make fun of something after you just got what you just wanted. The logic doesn't add up. Their ways betray them, and some of them can't even figure it out. It's not always what is not said but how they didn't want to say it.

They are treading on very scary ground if you ask me

[TexasChick]

22. Whoa, LibertyorDeath, I'm not sure I'm reading you right. Tell me how

you really feel and don't hold back! LOL!!! I'm right with you, buddy!

[illuminaughty]

38. I like seeing look like Mussolini

after they hung him upside down with the rest of the fascists!

[NYC]

45. Mussolini & Claudia

[illuminaughty]

47. Oh, I can't even say what I'm thinking...um, a future photo op for *

But..I lived in Italy and wherever you went there was "Fascisti Assassini" Fascist Murderers written in graffiti. They got rid of the whole bunch and they never want to repeat that part of their history.

I was so proud when I heard Rome had the biggest anti-war march before we went into Iraq. That little country brought out 3 million.

[Zorra]

41. Heh Heh: Bu$h's "Indian Scouts" Name: Little Shit Weasel. That's good!

[cubsfan forever]

57. Excellently said! n/t

Professor 2

[alittlelark]

8. We need you to edit and add a link....thanks

[hangloose]

11. done

www.washingtondispatch.com

[alittlelark]

14. Thanks!!!

[Catherine Vincent]

15. Toot!! Toot!!

We should toot our horns!

[DELUSIONAL]

16. Radio is also mentioned

I'm listening to a repeat of the Air America Radio Show -- Mike Malloy -- and he is really hitting all the points about Vote fraud.

Randi Rhodes also was hitting Vote fraud -- as were J&Sam. Also Mike Webb.

These guys are bull-dogs with a bone -- they are not going to give up on this vote fraud.


Mike Malloy tonight's rerun:
"Do you understand -- None of us did anything wrong. We did it right and we had it smashed in our faces. We won this one and we won the last one."

"There is nothing more that we could do -- we didn't do anything wrong."

Nothing we do will mean ANYTHING -- until we get rid of the machines! (Mike Malloy)

[txindy]

27. Malloy is right, there was nothing more that we could do.

No matter how many votes we got out for Kerry, they would've been stolen and flipped to B*sh. Talk about irony. It's B*sh and his vote-stealing troll, Rove, who are the flip-floppers, not John Kerry.

This isn't going away, KKKarl.

[LibertyorDeath]

33. That fits like a glove "vote-stealing troll, Rove"

[txindy]

39. Well, the troll is fighting for more than just an election here, I think.

Remember, he just spent a couple of hours testifying in front of a Federal Grand Jury in the Plame case. I think KKKarl is desperate. And, honestly, that's good for us because desperation leads to mistakes that, hopefully, provide nice trails back to the lair of the evil vote-stealing troll, himself. :evilgrin: :toast:

[NVMojo]

62. Go Randi and Mike, someone is sticking up for half of America!!!

added the following comment:

I remember telling people the month before the election, over and over, "what makes you think these facist dictators are going to let go of their toy, the United States, without a plan to keep in firmly in their grips?" They never had any intention of losing this and they made sure for four years while only Bev Harris, Randi Rhoades, Michael Moore and a handful of others had a plan to counteract them...

[Vincardog]

87. What we must do first is get 1 Million signatures on petitions

to support HR2239 and S1980 to require paper trails for votes.

[Fozzledick]

20. Question of the Day - Go and vote!

Question of the Day

Do you trust the results of the election?
Yes, Bush won fair and square
8%

No, something is going on
82%

Maybe but I'll look at evidence to the contrary
6%

I'm not really sure
2%

http://www.washingtondispatch.com/poll.shtml

[foo_bar]

21. 8+82+6+2=98%

:tinfoilhat:

[Seabiscuit]

69. "No, something is going on" now up to 84%

after I voted.

[crispini]

72. Still 84% - DU this poll!

:kick:

[3113]

81. I tried to vote and was told I already voted. What's up with that?

Edit: Guess I should say I was voting on the Question of the Day.

[MagickMuffin]

23. He didn't win enough votes

legally or illegally for a fucking mandate.

His power has gone to his head!

[TexasChick]

24. Can't ever tell him that though! Don't question Der Fuhrer! n/t

[txindy]

25. Excellent! Here's another link. The story is spreading! From NZ

Yes, it's from New Zealand, but it's getting legs! The article is titled "Bigger than Watergate!"

http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0307/S00064.htm

[Carolab]

30. The story from Scoop is from 2003

it's not recent

[txindy]

31. Then bundle it up with the Wash. Dispatch story and all our links here

and hit the media email list. The Scoop article provides the background for what is happening now. Journalists need that background to understand what we're saying right now. The article plus good info. from Bev Harris (also from 2003, I believe) is also here: http://www.truthout.org/docs_03/voting.shtml#part1

[FizzFuzz]

26. excellent. We all knew this on Wed.am, so when will it make a difference?

If it doesn't make a difference then what? How do us little old bloggers force media to cover the shit out of this? LTTEs may be nice but our newspaper overwieghts everything with RW pukes. I don't even know what TV news is doing, I gave up on that ages ago.

First days after the coup, I heard radio anouncing rulings for full turnover to e-voting. GAK! (big surprise. It worked so well for them........)

Shit we knew this the second we learned about Liebold's CEO whispering sweet nothings in Busholini's ear, and we didn't do anything

[txindy]

29. It's only been five days since the election.

The media (and I mean newspapers, TV is a lost cause, IMO) can't run with this yet. We need to move ahead with Nader's recount in NH. That will trigger investigations into like machines in other states, including Ohio and Florida. This story isn't going away. Check out this link: http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0307/S00064.htm

It's from New Zealand, but there are reporters on papers in this country who will jump on this. We need to bring it to their attention. We need to mass email this to the newspapers, here and abroad.

[FizzFuzz]

35. I hope the publicity goes somewhere.

sorry to be a downer, but all the discovery of Plame outing, Haliburton, Bush caught in numerous lies ends up resulting in a big fat zero. No action taken, facts treated as if they were funny fairytales.

I am on a downswing. The emotional pummeling of the last 4 years, topped with a swift suckerpunch to the gut.........sorry, for the negativity.

[txindy]

36. No, I hear you. No need to apologize.

The way I look at it, we've got until the Electoral College meets. Longer, actually, if we can prove fraud and not just a miscount. Anyway, it's a month. That's not all that long. We can be patient -- active, but patient -- for a month. THEN, if need be, we can be upset. Now, though, we need to focus all that frustration and energy into emailing or whatever else we need to do to give this legs. We CAN do this!! I know we can!

Just MHO, of course. Your mileage may vary. ;)

[FizzFuzz]

42. thanks for the chin-up

:) When my energy comes back up, I'll write again. Probably not to my stupid local paper, but to my Rep. or something. I'm not savvy about who to contact. But then I have you guys to ask. :toast:

Here's an encouraging post from Friday. I just saw it now. Letter to Govt Accountability Org. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=2609760&mesg_id=2609760&page=

[Prodemsouth]

28. Once again repeat after me: The only man date Bush will ever have is

with Victor Ashe!! Keep repeating until it is gospel everywhere, even in Jesusland

[idiosyncratic]

34. Poll: Do you trust the results of the election?

Yes, Bush won fair and square -- 8%

No, something is going on -- 83%

Maybe but I'll look at evidence to the contrary -- 6%

I'm not really sure -- 2%

-------------------------

[illuminaughty]

37. The Kansas City Star reported the Gahanna story

in today's paper. It ain't over!

[Andromeda]

40. Kick!

:kick:

[Tight_rope]

43. Sweet....I love it!

[lebkuchen]

46. With the huge turnout, there is no way Chimpy got 1/4 mil more votes in FL

than did Kerry.

If, as pundits told us, "nothing had changed since 2000," then Kerry would have won FL, as did Gore, and by a lot more than Gore did.

[DeepModem Mom]

48. kick

[robbedvoter]

49. You misspelled man-date

[cubsfan forever]

58. Well said!

We all know that Candyass's man-date is coming here soon: Tony Blair.

Professor 2

[Skinner]

50. Way to go, DU!

:thumbsup:

[kerry-is-my-prez]

51. Another article that mentions DU and Bev Harris. MUST READ

http://www.washingtondispatch.com/article_10500.shtml
Should America Trust the Results of the Election?

Members of the discussion forum, DemocraticUnderground.com dug in and have already found a clear error in the vote count within Ohio. In one voting precinct in Gahanna, Ohio, 4,258 voters supposedly cast an electronic ballot for George Bush while only 260 voted for John Kerry. While it is vaguely possible that over 94% of voters in the precinct supported George W. Bush, it is a hard number to believe considering that only 638 voters were counted at the polling center.

-snip-

One organization that is investigating the matter is BlackBoxVoting.org which is run by Bev Harris. Mrs. Harris has turned over evidence to authorities regarding vote fraud and has come to the conclusion that fraud did occur on November 2nd. However her group is uncertain as to the scope of the possible conspiracy. Unfortunately, Mrs. Harris has an uphill battle as no paper trail exists to verify the electronic voting data.

Over the past few years, Republicans have fought to prevent any type of paper trail through electronic voting. Despite printable ATM type receipts being a reasonable fail-safe, Republicans and corporations such as Diebold fought hard and eventually won the battle against a verifiable voting system.

Without question, the evidence presented thus far should raise suspicion among honest individuals. While maintaining a calm and reasonable demeanor, the results of the Novermber 2nd election should be fully investigated simply for the sake of the nation and our future confidence in the democratic process.



Shane Cory is the editor of the Washington Dispatch.

[greyXstar]

52. Like music to my ears

This is awesome! I even saw the Ohio story on the CNNToGo thing on my phone today. If they're reporting it, it's definately going to get around quickly!

Way to effin go DU! :toast:

[tommcintyre]

53. GREAT! I'll add this to my EVOTING FRAUD RESOURCE CENTER

http://www.independentmediasource.com/evotingfraud.htm


Sections:

Article Sections:

11-2-04 and newer:

Featured

Evoting

On Site

Other voter fraud

Older



Other Sections:

Web sites

New Additions

Legislation

Things you can do



Hundreds of resources available through these pages

UPDATED CONSTANTLY. CHECK THE "New Additions" PAGE EACH TIME YOU COME BACK


SPREAD THE WORD. PROPAGATE THIS EVERYWHERE!

(Lots of bandwidth)
Du post:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=203&topic_id=28512&mesg_id=28512

[Arkana]

54. Oh, man...not the WD

I hate that place. I used to post on the message boards there--the wingnuts numbered many, and there was no reasoning with them. They're a RW website that just felches the Chimp all the time.

[Chelsea Patriot]

55. "The Gig is Up! Word is out! They finally found him!"

I Feel a little Cheap Trick coming on right now!

[NicRic]

85. actually that was a Sticks song !

Renegade !

[Robeson]

56. kick

[NVMojo]

59. Hats off, DU! The only group with fight left in it ...

Glad to be involved with all of you. Proud, in fact.

[joytomme]

60. Upshot if fraud is proven

Does anyone know...can anyone tell me what happens if it's proven that Kerry was actually the winner?

Obviously this is a can of worms for even Constitution lawyers, but what happens? Does Kerry's concession put him out of the running, or would proof of fraud mean that all bets were off re a concession? Does anyone know the answer to that?

I've also wondered, if Bush is impeached, would we get Cheney as Prez? Or are those who are mounting the call for impeachment also calling for Cheney to be impeached?

Ratfuck Diary (http://ratfuckdiary.blogspot.com)

[cubsfan forever]

63. Good point

Here is a little history lesson. In 1972, Tricky Dick Nixon won 49 state on his way to one of the biggest landslides in history. I remember because I was a pollworker/canvasser for McGovern. Nixon had a horrible POS VP named Spiro Agnew III; he was as universally hated and despised as Dumb Dick Cheney. So, conventional wisdom said that Nixon would never be impeached, because "look who is waiting in the wings."

Cut to chase: Agnew ended up resigning first, after a tax scandal and disbarment threat. Nixon went down shortly thereafter (Aug 9), once impeachment proceedings got up a head of steam. And there weren't 56 M people out for Nixon's head on a platter then. Stay tuned. Asshat's second "term" may yet be a prison term.

Professor 2

[NVMojo]

64. cool blog, joytomme ...

I always hated those ratfucks!!!

[Seabiscuit]

70. A concession is not legally or Constitutionally binding.

If the officials in each state correct the numbers following proof of fraud/computer glitches, whatever you want to call them, and the final numbers show Kerry winning the needed electoral votes, then he's the new President.

[Laelth]

78. We must remember, though ...

that the state legislatures actually certify the state's electors. Both houses of the legislatures of both Florida and Ohio are controlled by Republicans. This is still an uphill fight. The evidence of fraud must be so overwhelming that those legislatures feel public pressure to do the right thing.

Good work, DU. But let's not get out hopes up too high.

-Laelth

[Seabiscuit]

82. You're right. Although

Florida and Ohio are surely not the only states where voter fraud/computer glitches occurred. I have a friend in Florida who is a computer expert/engineer and worked as a voting monitor who is about to provide solid evidence of all kinds of Repuke misdeeds resulting in thousands if not tens or hundreds of thousands of wrongly counted votes for Bush.

[Seabiscuit]

71. Yes, if Bush is impeached Cheney becomes Prez

Therefore you must impeach Cheney and his successors on down the line at the same time as Bush to get rid of the bunch.

[Mabel Dodge]

73. I love you guys...you give me hope! Thanks

[sangh0]

75. Drip, drip

anyone remember Watergate?

[Divine Discontent]

79. well, for me

I will continue to believe major fraud until at least the vote is certified officially everywhere and the electors vote, because I think der fuhrer and his SS henchman easily got diebold and others to program code to steal votes for el chimpy (aka der fuhrer)!

http://homepage.mac.com/duffyb/nobush/iMovieTheater268.html

Bush is a MF retard. No, I take that back, it's mean to the handicapped. He's just a candyass cheney kissing buffoon.

[whistle]

80. The media long ago rolled over and died on the issue of keeping...

...politicans on the left, on the right, in the middle and to the far extremes, honest and accountable to the people. Then reporters and journalists began to compromise their integrity for fame and security. It seems that the internet and in particular certain Blog sites have taken on the battle that the media fought up until the beginning of the first Nixon White House years. Bloggers are now the Edward R. Morrows of cyber space.

The rest of us can benefit as long as the power elite fails to control the internet and as long as the internet remains free, and by free I mean monitarily as well as spiritually. Once big corporations get in and claim ownership of the internet, the government gets in and begins to tax the internet and moralists get in and demand that the internet be controlled and censored against their versions of sin, it will be all over and truth will disappear from cyber space. So I relish what is happening and let's beat these bastard Bushkovites while we have the chance.

[lady lib]

83. Nader wants to help

Ralph Nader (no, I'm not too happy with him either)wants to do an audit of the election results, and I guess he needs requests in writing in order to be able to do it. Given the alternative of 4 more years, I'll take anyone's help. This was on The Randi Rhodes Show website:

Demand A Recount Now

Send a Fax Now to: 202-265-0092

Text should Read:

RALPH --

Challenge the election results in New Hampshire, Now.

Your Name,
Black Box Voting Activist

[GreenPartyVoter]

86. We'll haunt him like the ghost

of Christmas Future, Jefferson, Lincoln, FDR, and JFK all rolled up into one.

------------------------------------------------------------
Help expose the election 2004 voter fraud today!
http://www.geocities.com/greenpartyvoter/electionreform.htm

[FighttheFuture]

88. Whoa! Analyzing at Precient Level shows fraud in Cuyahoga!

buzzflash.com led me to this!

http://pages.ivillage.com/americans4america/id20.html


There have been several emails regarding this page. I will be inquiring to Cuyahoga County in the coming days. It seems that the precinct/ward differences may be where the problem is as the official summary report does not show these spikes in turn-out.

The summary, however, does not report on the number of registered voters for precincts or wards, whereas the referenced link does. I am using the referenced link data below (more complete totals), not the summary report, which only reflects total districts.

Cuyahoga County Precincts

Each precinct in Cuyahoga County, Ohio
Highlighted areas represent 90% (very VERY unlikely) and higher (up to 1160.78%) voter TURN-OUT! 30 are above 100%
Calculated from data on county page - http://boe.cuyahogacounty.us/BOE/results/currentresults ...

(Ballots Cast/Registered Voters) * 100 = % turn out.
Ballots Cast SHOULD NEVER be more than Registered, thus % should NEVER be higher than 100%

This amounts to 97,489 EXTRA votes beyond 100% in those precincts! This is just for ONE county!

No further evidence needed - a recount MUST be done - and possibly another national election using ONLY paper ballots, hand counts, and observers making sure all counts are valid. I don't trust these computers AT ALL! We should have the UN observe

more....