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man4allcats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 05:01 AM
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An American Theocracy and the Constitution Restoration Act of 2004
At this point, no one (at least no one who had the good sense to vote for Kerry) can doubt that America is in a lot of trouble. I came across something a few minutes ago that I found particularly unsettling if not all that surprising given the present state of affairs. It is called the Constitution Restoration Act of 2004, and it basically paves the way for an American theocracy that cannot be challenged by law. Even when I read it, I didn't believe it so I looked it up on the Thomas Legislative Information site < http://thomas.loc.gov/ >, and sure enough HR 3799 actually does exist. Chris Floyd describes it thusly in a March 12, 2004 article:

One of the sticking points in crafting the just-signed "interim constitution" of the Pentagon cash cow formerly known as Iraq was the question of acknowledging Islam as the fundamental source of law. After much wrangling, a fudge was worked out that cites the Koran as a fundamental source of legal authority, with the proviso that no law can be passed that conflicts with Islam.

We in the enlightened West smile at such theocratic quibbling, of course: Imagine, national leaders insisting that a modern state be governed solely by divine authority! Governments guaranteeing the right of religious extremists to impose their views o­n society! What next -- debates about how many angels can dance o­n the head of a pin? Oh, those poor, ignorant barbarians in Babylon!

Well, wipe that smile off your face. For even now, the ignorant barbarians in Washington are pushing a law through Congress that would "acknowledge God as the sovereign source of law, liberty government" in the United States. What's more, it would forbid all legal challenges to government officials who use the power of the state to enforce their own view of "God's sovereign authority." Any judge who dared even hear such a challenge could be removed from office.

The "Constitution Restoration Act of 2004" is no joke; it was introduced last month by some of the Bush Regime's most powerful Congressional sycophants. If enacted, it will effectively transform the American republic into a theocracy, where the arbitrary dictates of a "higher power" -- as interpreted by a judge, policeman, bureaucrat or president -- can override the rule of law.


See the full text of his article at < http://www.thementalmilitia.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=251&mode=thread >. If you're wondering about the current status of this bill, Thomas also provides that information. Specifically - "Latest Major Action: 9/13/2004 House committee/subcommittee actions. Status: Subcommittee Hearings Held." See < http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d108:h.r.03799:>.

We seem to have somehow time warped back to seventeenth century New England. Be careful what you say. You'll wind up in the stocks or pillory or worse. If you know any witches with a facility for raising the dead, please contact them. I don't know about you, but right now I'd feel a lot better if we had Jefferson, Franklin, and Lincoln here with us.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 05:09 AM
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1. And Falwell & Robertson have never been happier
Edited on Sun Nov-07-04 05:12 AM by Erika
Say good bye to the Great American Experiment. Theocracy has returned.
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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 05:15 AM
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2. I don't know -- are Pilgrims and Puritans being reincarnated?
These guys were so strict -- fines for cussing (well damned if we don't have that for TV and Radio).

When people here seem to say that we need to modify our values to become less threatening to the religious types -- they don't seem to realize that the Christians Reconstructionists and other extreme religious right wing don't give a damned how much we try to change into Republican lite -- they just want to kills us all -- or force us back to the dark ages.

Yes I've heard about this -- it's been kicking around (in various incarnations) -- just waiting for their folks to be elected so it can be introduced and passed.

Will the democrats to show that they aren't SATANS and vote for this??

However, would this conflict with the constitution?

Stay tuned -- the battle goes on.
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Q3JR4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 05:24 AM
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4. Without a doubt it will conflict
with the constitution...until "The Emperor" is able to appoint his own judges.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 08:37 AM
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7. My ancestry are those people and my Father was in the GOP
And we learned early that it had to be a church less govt. Folders of Church and State were for ever on our coffee table. I even found a family member that was "said" to be Quakers. Since he was a town officer he was just thought to be a Quaker. You had to be of the right church to hold office.Even the King of England said we could not hang any more Quakers. So much for our lovely early Am and why we did not want or need a church state.I wonder what will happen to all these people who seem to want it find out just what church it will be. That is when it gets to be fun.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 05:18 AM
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3. That sound you hear
is me packing my bags.
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liberalpress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 07:11 AM
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5. Coward..
...they will do this when they pry my computer from my cold dead hands....
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 07:54 AM
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6. I call BULLSHIT on that, bub... Don't call ME a fucking coward.
Edited on Sun Nov-07-04 07:57 AM by impeachdubya
First off, I was being facetious.

For the time being, at least, I fully intend to stay and fight. I've spent 20 years railing against the dangerous kooks of the Religious Right. If I was a coward I wouldn't be putting myself out there, every day, speaking out against this administration. I busted my ass for this election. If I was a "coward", or even lazy, I would be sitting in my dockers-clad hidey hole like millions of others in this country, enjoying my tax cut and listening to Toby Keith.

But I have relatives who managed to survive Nazi Germany because they were smart enough to split. There are some majorly fucking ominous trends right now, and you know what? The game may be so rigged at this point there aint a whole helluva lot we can do about it. Look at the media. Look at the situation with Electronic Voting.

Some people have families and other considerations. Children, particularly of draft age. Not everyone can afford to be like the guy who stands in front of the tank in Tianamen square. I have great respect for those people, but I'm also not going to be one of these folks here with an overabundance of false bravado, bitching about the "cowards" who look at what's going on with regards to this administration and country, consider the options, and decide to get the hell out of dodge.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 09:47 AM
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8. I am skeptical about the permanency potential of the proposed law.
Unless you pass an amendment to the federal Constitution that will prohibit future amending a law (thus making it permanent), it can't happen. Every law is subject to future retraction and repudiation without it.
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