Who is going to lead the revolution?

[Democracy Died 2004]

serious question. How will it start? What can I do? Many of us have ideas but how are we going to put it all together in a all out effort? Will it be more than boycotts? When does civil disobedience start? Please lets get this started. It been almost a week now and we are still bickering and pointing fingers while the enemy of the world is growing stronger.
Please let's start now, for the good of all mankind.

[Copperred]

1. ................

1. Protesting State Electors

2. Inaugral Day Protest

3. BBV www.blackboxvoting.org

4. Breakdown the media to cover this. ALL GLITCHES WENT TO BUSH...give me a break....

4. And for those ready to risk their lives....they will start the ultimate trend should our country have no way out.

[quaoar]

2. I suggested

a strike on Inaugural Day. A citizen's strike.

[Democracy Died 2004]

21. That would be good

But how do we "advertise" that so they don't think we are just a bunch of lazy liberals? If we all take a day to strike we need the media to be aware of it wouldn't you think?

[Ninga]

3. You will lead the revolution.

In your own town, city, state..............

You will take a look around you and see who your local elected officals are. Especially your state reps and state senators.

Then you will take a look at who your US Rep and Senator is, and then you will form a Watch Dog organization with volunteers just like you.

You will hound those elected officals you don't agree with, check their votes, ask them to come to your community and be accountable to the people they represent.

IT IS HARD, HARD WORK (remember when * said that during the debates?)

Then all of the grassroots Watch Dog organizations can plug into bigger groups in their own regions.......

Thus begins the revoluntion.

[Democracy Died 2004]

6. These are cosmetic things in my opinion.

Even if we try to vote them out we still lose. No I am afraid the time for playing "fair" is over. I grew up in the 60's and almost every day there was news and actions in the headlines. Our side isn't even mentioned except as a passing joke. Are we really going to fool ourselves in believing we can win by playing within the rules?
I do not think so. No more passive ideas.
So I ask again what are your ideas? Do we march en mass to Washington and tie up government for a week? How does it begin?

How do you kill evil?

[Ninga]

7. It is NOT cosmetic to cut off the head of the fish.

You can't do that until you catch the fish.

You can't catch the fish unless you hunt it in it's own pond.

Perhaps you will allow me to amend my "revolution" suggestions to add that while we work hard at keeping our elected officials feet to the fire, we continue to support peace and justice organizations.

[billyoc]

4. You n/t

[mrbill]

5. sell the family farm and move to the south of france or.......

assist in the revolution?

a week has almost passed and i still don't have a clue.

[Edmond Dantes]

8. One easy thing you can do...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1334140

Help neutralize the political effectiveness of Karl Rove, the genius behind the Fourth Reich.

KARL ROVE: THE KING OF DIRT
By Wayne Madsen

December 5, 2003 100 PDT (FTW) -- After many years as a privacy advocate and author of privacy books, I now reluctantly believe that there's one citizen of the United States who is not entitled to any privacy or solitude, but should be subjected to a relentless campaign of intimidation, harassment, and knavery. In other words, patriotic Americans who believe in fair play should -- within the bounds of the law -- make this person's life a living hell.

The target for such a campaign is Karl Rove, George W. Bush's political Svengali, and the chief instigator of character assassination campaigns against those who challenge the policies of the Bush administration.
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/120503_rove.html


Rove didn't just steal 2 elections for BushCo. He's planning BushCo's entire political/policy agenda for the 2nd term. We need to distract him bigtime.

[Democracy Died 2004]

9. That is interesting.

Sometimes I look at him and my insides scream " Child molestor" Don't know if this is a learned reaction or what. but i just get this feeling.
And you are right, why is he so protected? Man there is something there, I know it.

[DemVIctory]

10. We need thousands of D Boons.

D was the leader of the 80's DIY band the Minutemen. Their songs spoke of 'Contras' long before the I/C hearings. They spoke the blunt truth in all of their songs with no compromise. Dig up the album 'Double Nickels on the Dime,' it should be the cornerstone album for any progressive activist. Know the issues as well as D did, and don't mince words about how evil these crooks are.

'We are responsible!'

[riverwalker]

11. you

the only leader you need is your conscience.

[Democracy Died 2004]

12. Um ok

not sure that's how revolutions get started in the active phase but let me try......... No my concience really hasn't told me anything new. Got any other ideas?

[H2O Man]

13. Why are you trying

to get other people to say something more provocative than the legal and non-violent democratic methods they have mentioned?

[Democracy Died 2004]

14. Why am I trying what?

I have not said anything other than civil disobedience. Active protesting. These are things that could be done right? I suppose you would have been offended by "Give me liberty or give me death"?

[H2O Man]

15. Suppose whatever fits your needs.

Good luck with your civil disobedience. Are you able to tell us exactly what actions you have in mind?

[Edmond Dantes]

16. I agree that it is very important that we not appear

to be encouraging illegal or violent behavior on DU. And that's why I try to remember to emphasize that all of our actions must fall squarely within the bounds of the law.

I do think we can be creative, a la Saul Alinsky.

[Democracy Died 2004]

17. Well let's think for a second

I sense you are questioning my motives. That's cool and expected during these times of fear mongering. So no offense taken. However I am not an agent of the dark side. I am mad as hell and want to pro actively cut off the head of the evil that has emerged in this country. You could have driven hot pokers through my eyes and not equal the pain I have in my soul right now. But this will pass, and I now need a direction to channel this hate. I do not want to hurt people or kill or maim or start anything "illegal" <although i guess civil disobedience is> but i want to hurt the enemies moral. i want them exposed. I WANT THEM GONE!

[JackieO]

18. Don't look for leaders

Just do what needs to be done.

[H2O Man]

19. You can not be of any

use unless you make up your own mind. I note you opt not to identify what "actions" you are looking to undertake.

I also note that you repeat: "Will it be more than boycotts?"

You had previously noted: "These are cosmetic things..."

"the time for playing 'fair' is over..."

"are we really going to fool ourselves in believing we can win by playing within the rules?"

"No more passive ideas ..."

"Um ok not sure that's how revolutions get started."

So why don't you share with us your plans for "revolution" that is outside the rules, is not passive, and isn't fair play? Why are you trying to get someone else to say it for you?

[Democracy Died 2004]

20. Holy Christ man if you don't believe what i am

then expose me. Send alerts to the mods. I want ideas on proactive things we can do. here let me help you i send an alert on myself. REPEAT I am not asking for illegal ideas just the same tactics that are used by the enemy. The reason a lot of people have low post on this board is because every time they ask or voice opinions the alerts start flying. Go to my profile. Is anything there hidden? No. If we are ever going to start out with huge demonstrations, civil dis. we have to do it as a group solidified. Not pointing fingers and and bowing to fear. How bout this since you think i am trying to bait people. How bout sit ins, people blockades. things that the people have done in the past. Not within the rules but part of our Democracy. Do you really think calling a Presidential candidate a traitor is within the rules of fair play? Why can't we play by those "rules"? If you think i am asking for armed conflict you are wrong. Look up the definition of revolution.

[Deja Q]

22. Roj Blake?

:shrug:

We all expected big riots after election 2004. Didn't happen.

There will be no revolution.

[Democracy Died 2004]

24. Yeah i suppose your right

I guess we just have to accept that we are too moral, too clean and too intelligent to even get something started to take back a country. We must obey our new masters i guess. Don't rock the boat, don't think, don't act. let the bliss of ignorance wash over you. we must comply.

[bemildred]

23. Done with "leaders", thanks, we're going to have to do it ourselves. nt