Bush voters smarter than Kerry voters?

[dpakman91]

alright so after that bogus IQ list that was floating around the internet for the past couple of months, this should clear up any confusion:

http://heartheissues.com/e2004-6-intelligenceiq.html

[PROGRESSIVE1]

1. Without a doubt, Kerry voters are smarter!

[Democracy Died 2004]

2. I really feel stupid now.

We got beat by retards? Why would that make me happy or fill the wound in my soul?

[ignatius 2]

4. "Retards" much as gays,blacks,hispanics etc. cannot help what they are.

We did not get beat by "retards", we got beat by ignorant people who care more about football,survivor,and kicking ass than their country and its citizens.

I have a mentally handicapped son, who is sweet, gentle, helpless and cannot help for one minute how he is. I find your use of the word retard extemely callous and not something I would expect from a progressive.

[HawkerHurricane]

7. We were not beaten by "Retards"...

we were beaten by leaders who would appeal to the foolish and stupid to get and hold power.

[teamster633]

12. An IL-2 screenshot...cool!

[formernaderite]

15. Wow....this is what really makes us so appealing to rural America...

all the insulting name calling. I bet this will help Conrad hang on to his North Dakota seat in 2006, don't ya think?

[HawkerHurricane]

21. So, how shall I rephrase this?

70% of Bush supporters believe, in spite of all evidence, that Iraq had Weapons of Mass Destruction. That's ignorant, isn't it? Kind of stupid to believe something that isn't true. Foolish to believe that in spite of the facts.

Now, I wouldn't say that to a Bush supporter to his face, not if I wanted to convice him of that. But I see no reason not to tell the truth on a anonomous message board.

Given what my local newspaper says, I should have bought a bigger plot of land for my house, they seem to think we vote by acreage.

[Democracy Died 2004]

10. Oh boy

i do not remember calling your son a retard. Sorry. I guess i should have said "__________ Challenged people". Sigh.

[ignatius 2]

13. It is not only my son that I speak for, it is a large group of people

who cannot help that they can't think or throw back smart ass answers on a message board. I would come back to any of you who call a black person a nigger or an hispanic man a beaner. Why not avoid the nice word gay and just call them queers? My point was they cannot help who they are any more than a dog can become a cat. And we, the supposedly intelligent ones,use terms that degrade these people.

Sigh.

[ClintonTyree]

5. There's more of them...............

and they're easily led. Education assumes that you question things and can think in abstracts. Stupidity assumes that you have no intellectual curiosity and think only in terms of conformity with the masses.
Take great pride in the fact that you fall into the former category instead of the latter.

[kayell]

17. And just imagine what would happen to the avg. IQ down here if us liberal

Southerners moved away in mass. :scared:

[Laelth]

23. Which we are considering ...

Don't doubt that for a second.

-Laelth

[kayell]

24. I don't at all. I've always hated cold weather, but it's looking more

appealing all the time.

[gordianot]

3. LOL LOL LOL

My sides are hurting. I do this for a living "Pshycological Examiner".

Great article thanks,



:kick: :bounce:

[dpakman91]

6. cool

can you verify that either of the two methods used for determining intelligence have any validity?

[gordianot]

9. Not valid.

Intelligence tests are not universal. No one has been able to find truly reliable measure of Spearmans G or "General Intelligence". All they really do is show how you perform compared to a sample population. Comparing two different cognitive measures is like comparing apples to oranges.

When someone tells you that a certain racial, regional, or other group is more intelligent than another please be skeptical. These are the kinds of studies that make David Wechsler turn over in his grave.

I tend to support "Multiple Intelligence theory" and reject the idea of "G" General intelligence. In my work I have to follow a more traditional approach.

This to me is really funny. It is also measuring more cultural and environmental factors.

I did some quick checking (one phone call) after I posted this first time. What you are probably measuring is a redistribution of the norming sample. This would account for the variance in State scores.

A quick theory you might want to measure annual income against voting trends. I suspect Democrats might be suprised by the outcome with higher income groups favoring Democrats. I'm sure there are studies out there.

One of the best laughs I have had in a long time.

Thanks,

[Dark]

8. It always gets me when conservatives make fun of 'liberal professors'

Yea, the vast majority of America's smartest and most educated citizens completely disagree with you people. Shouldn't that tell you something?

[The Backlash Cometh]

11. NOT smarter, just more responsible about getting informed.

[JBoris]

14. Here is one based on IQ that might be true

http://chrisevans3d.com/files/iq.htm

[gordianot]

16. Looks like some sort of Meta-Analysis.

Lots of arguments here.

In my opinion this all boils down to individual perceptions.

I have strong personal and to a degree hidden professional doubts about anyone who voted for Bush.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

18. pic here.... of graph of IQ's by state and candidate

http://chrisevans3d.com/files/iq.htm State Avg. IQ 2004

....state.....IQ...candidate

1 Connecticut 113 Kerry
2 Massachusetts 111 Kerry
3 New Jersey 111 Kerry
4 New York 109 Kerry
5 Rhode Island 107 Kerry
6 Hawaii 106 Kerry
7 Maryland 105 Kerry
8 New Hampshire 105 Kerry
9 Illinois 104 Kerry
10 Delaware 103 Kerry
11 Minnesota 102 Kerry
12 Vermont 102 Kerry
13 Washington 102 Kerry
14 California 101 Kerry
15 Pennsylvania 101 Kerry
16 Maine 100 Kerry
17 Virginia 100 Bush
18 Wisconsin 100 Kerry
19 Colorado 99 Bush
20 Iowa 99 Bush
21 Michigan 99 Kerry
22 Nevada 99 Bush
23 Ohio 99 Bush
24 Oregon 99 Kerry
25 Alaska 98 Bush
26 Florida 98 Bush
27 Missouri 98 Bush
28 Kansas 96 Bush
29 Nebraska 95 Bush
30 Arizona 94 Bush
31 Indiana 94 Bush
32 Tennessee 94 Bush
33 North Carolina 93 Bush
34 West Virginia 93 Bush
35 Arkansas 92 Bush
36 Georgia 92 Bush
37 Kentucky 92 Bush
38 New Mexico 92 Bush
39 North Dakota 92 Bush
40 Texas 92 Bush
41 Alabama 90 Bush
42 Louisiana 90 Bush
43 Montana 90 Bush
44 Oklahoma 90 Bush
45 South Dakota 90 Bush
46 South Carolina 89 Bush
47 Wyoming 89 Bush
48 Idaho 87 Bush
49 Utah 87 Bush
50 Mississippi 85 Bush

[newyawker99]

20. Hi JBoris!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[JBoris]

22. Thank you newyawker !

[dpakman91]

25. actually,

that's the list that is "bogus," that is mentioned in the article i posted. the one used in the link i posted is a legitimate, much less dramatic, list of IQ's for each state.

[newyawker99]

19. Hi dpakman91!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast: