Gallup says says Bush's support DROPPED among rural voters

[Rose Siding]

...and that his gains were in cities and suburbs. It's just another poll that seems to fly in the face of reality-

November 05, 2004
ABOUT THAT URBAN/RURAL DIVIDE. Gallup's post-election poll seems to do some major damage to the rapidly emerging conventional wisdom about the 2004 election. According to Gallup, George W. Bush improved his share among suburban voters (51 percent in 2000, 54 percent in 2004) and among urban voters (35 percent in 2000, 44 percent in 2004) while doing worse among rural voters (60 percent in 2000, down to 54 percent in 2004). Similarly, while Bush gained among all categories of educational attainment, his biggest improvement was among those holding postgraduate degrees (47 percent, up from 43 percent) while his smallest gain was among those with high school or less (46 percent, up from 45 percent).
Other bits of the polling do tend to support the conventional wisdom that Bush made significant gains among self-identified conservatives or Republicans, and big gains among regular churchgoers, while staying flat among the non-observant. Still, it appears that in a few respects, the cultural divisions in the United States are narrowing, rather than widening.

http://www.prospect.org/weblog/archives/2004/11/index.html#004734

[WI_DEM]

1. well there is the reason we lost, Bush gained nine points among

urban voters? what goes on? and what is with post-grads? people used to post that the more "intelligent" people were the most opposed to Bush?

[DireStrike]

2. But don't we usually ridicule gallup as an outlier?

[WI_DEM]

4. maybe but it looks like Gallup was more on target that Zogby

They consistently had Bush leading among "likely voters" who were more likely to show up.

[mtnsnake]

3. I hope I never see another Gallup poll again. n/t

[peacetalksforall]

5. Gallup is junk Gallup is propaganda. Gallup is corporate.

[splat]

6. NOT a post-election poll, the same old pre-election poll!

PRINCETON, NJ -- An analysis of Gallup's final pre-election poll shows that George W. Bush's victory over John Kerry was led by strong support among groups that tend to be politically conservative...

These results are based on telephone interviews with a randomly selected national sample of 1.573 likely voters, aged 18 and older, conducted Oct. 29-31, 2004....

The results are adjusted to reflect the overall national popular two-party vote.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/content/?ci=13957

[jacksonian]

7. of course if a weak pres tried to game the system

by stealing and suppressing his opponent's urban votes, what pattern would we see?

[Rose Siding]

10. This crossed my mind

These numbers would have to be reflected somewhere to give any credibility to the FL returns- the ones that showed the virtual "flip" of votes in dem heavy counties.

[papau]

8. when you only "fix" "suburban/urban" voting machines, the stats are weird

But who talks about wholesale cheating?

Just those trained in math - and the media fears smart folks in math!

sigh....

:-(

[seabeyond]

9. hm let me see, he was losing amongst his own people

so the nly way to make up that vote was among the educated urban people. well that makes since, cant steal it in rural, couldnt find enough people to steal it from