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FullCountNotRecount Donating Member (860 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 01:58 PM
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Soldiers dying in Iraq for Democracy. We need to die here...
in USA for democracy.
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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 02:01 PM
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1. The soldiers in Iraq are NOT dying for "Democracy"
Edited on Sun Nov-07-04 02:02 PM by Coventina
Geesh!

They are dying for the neo-cons' delusions of an American Empire.

on edit: typo
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bloodyjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 02:01 PM
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2. .
Edited on Sun Nov-07-04 02:02 PM by mahayasmellbad
NEVERMIND
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puddycat Donating Member (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 02:02 PM
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3. first step: admit they aren't dying for democracy
You really need to face reality: they are dying for rich men's desires of empire. They are dying for rich white CEOs.

They aren't dying for democracy, and so don't perpetuate that sinking lie.
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L84TEA Donating Member (668 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 02:03 PM
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4. ya know...
someone wrote this after the election, I am not sure who did, but I would like to repost it. I can't give credit where credit is due...yet... it was inspiring, I am not a hateful person, and I dont intend on ever hurting a soul... yet this is an eye opener.
If whomever is out there that wrote this on a thread would like to claim it,,,, PLEASE DO :)
Voting does squat. Everyone says vote vote vote... except US History is
quite that opposite.

Did George Washington vote to ditch England, with King George saying "Oh,
majority voted, I'll go bugger off back to my high chair in London.
Tweedle-dee-dee..."?! I don't think so!!!

Freeing the slaves: Did the North and South play a game of checkers to
resolve the crisis? Nope, they killed each other. Abe Lincoln, oddly a
Republican, had the guts to do the right thing - and was murdered for his
progressive liberalism.

Did Rosa Parks incite the abolishment of segregation by saying that she was
sorry for taking up Whitey's special seat? Hell no.

Gay rights: If it were not for the Stonewall RIOTS, nothing would have
changed. And we sadly have a long way to go, what with judges siding with
the murderer buying the excuse "He made a pass and I got anxious so that's
why I stabbed him 62 times."

Oddly enough, it seems to take violence for any change to be made or for
people who want to eliminate serious issues to be noticed.

In other words, if blocking some street corners will do some good - so much
the better. But will it? All of the AMERICAN HEROES I mentioned took big-ass
risks, and some paid with their lives.


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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 02:06 PM
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5. Dying for democracy? Try, Killing for Capitalism.
What Democracy in Iraq? They're about to destroy Fallujah. Then Samarra. Our puppet has just placed the whole country under martial law.

Your view of what democracy is, needs some tuning.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 02:47 PM
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6. well, while i don't believe ...
Edited on Sun Nov-07-04 02:54 PM by emmy
.. the lie that 'we' are bringing democracy to Iraq-
(ya can't give something to others you don't have yourself)

i do agree with out states motto-

"live free or die"-

a bit extreem perhaps, but as i've said before, there is a fate worse than death- and that is living a life devoid of hope- REAL hope

edited to add some favorite lyrics-

"freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose-
and nothin ain't worth nothin if it's free"
(my version of 'me and bobby mcgee)
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