Urgent -- Contact Kerry, NOW!

[Oak2004]

E-mail Cam Kerry and ask for recounts, see the post at

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=203&topic_id=28262&mesg_id=28262&page=

(sorry mods, but this seemed to me to be far too important to be overlooked by anyone not browsing the presidential threads)

[Eloriel]

1. Kick

and also see this thread for another action step (easy, simple -- just tell everyone you know):

URGENT: VOTE FRAUD? Tell everyone you know -- details
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1337662

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[atomic kitty]

3. Looks like too many people in denial.

We need to MoveOn. We need to regroup and forge a new unity. Work with DLC and NDN, friends.

[prof_science]

6. I'm tired of MovingOn.

We've been "moving on" for 6 years, and all I've seen is backward movement.

[Eloriel]

7. Yeah, and it's all our fault for not being "moral" enough

:puke:

:kick:

[atomic kitty]

9. Well, we have to start winning elections at some point, don't we?

And in order to do so, we have to correct our mistakes/strategy/tactics, etc. What's wrong with that? I mean, for how much longer can we simply be the party of protests and rallies and "alternative" websites and conspiracy theories? In order to further our progressive agenda, we HAVE to start winning elections.

[demodonkey]

10. You'll NEVER win with rigged machines

[atomic kitty]

13. Listen, we have to be engaged in the political debate.

Otherwise what is the point of even staying in this country. It sounds like you are ready to leave the States.

[prof_science]

11. So if I understand...

...we further our progressive agenda by attracting voters who don't buy into that progressive agenda? I'm confused.

[atomic kitty]

12. Its all about how you frame the debate.

And moderate your positions. Just look at some of our fellow Dems who keep winning in red states. Think of Ben Nelson and Evan Bayh and John Breaux. They are progressive, too. Let us learn some lessons from them. I mean, what has all this agitation and protestation bought us this year? All it has done is make millionaires out of people like Michael Moore and Joe Trippy and Kitty Kelley. We are no better off.

[prof_science]

19. OK, that's fine, but...

..."getting over it" and "moving on" implies to me that we should ignore the fact that there are serious problems with the way elections are carried out-- yes, it is a long shot that this past election could be overturned (meaning, Kerry wins) by exposing fraud. But, exposing fraud in this election could, hopefully, provide impetus for a change in the way votes are collected and tallied.

If the debacle of 2000 was an indicator, it still seems unlikely that there will be any large changes before 2006, IMO. But, damn, to "move on" and give up would ensure that the problem only gets worse, if that is possible. I won't "move on"-- if the votes of the people are not counted reliably and elections are rigged, what the hell is worth "moving on" for?

[The Flaming Red Head]

17. Are you a suicide bomber kitty ready to blow up in our midst?

Go on back to the DLC. They have some warm milk set out for you.

[Crunchy Frog]

18. I'll slit my own throat

before I "unite and work with the DLC".:)

[EstimatedProphet]

4. Just curious-why not?

I'm not questioning your judgement, I just am curious about your rationale.

[Kukesa]

5. Gotcha. Glad I checked before I forwarded it. n/t

[liberalnurse]

15. Yea, I trust Pete......

It seems like there are 2 avenues here on DU.......I'm sitting on the side lines until the dust settles. I certainly don't want to be lead into a trap.


Thanks Pete....

[kerrygoddess]

8. is there a better to send things

Hi PeteNYC

Is there a better place to send reports of fraud, etc.

People really want to know that this is being looked into.

Do you have any suggestions?

[liberalnurse]

20. Thanks Pete.......

I trust your feedback....it seems like there is conflicting plans going on here.....

I asked myself.....Who is Cynthia Butler anyways?

Cynthia L. Butler

BUTLER LAW FIRM, P.C.
1717 K St. NW, Suite 600
Washington, DC 20036

[kerrygoddess]

14. this might be a better place to send complaints & reports of problems

http://www.johnkerry.com/contact/

Report an Election Day Problem
We want to make sure that every voter is counted. If you experienced or witnessed a problem at your polling place, please let us know.

http://www.johnkerry.com/forms/electiondayreport.php

[tommcintyre]

16. GREAT! Will add any others to: EVOTING FRAUD RESOURCE CENTER

http://www.independentmediasource.com/evotingfraud.htm


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