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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 04:23 PM
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U.S. Marines in Iraq break pre-battle tension with chariot race
By Edward Harris, Associated Press, 11/6/2004 15:17
NEAR FALLUJAH, Iraq (AP)

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Blowing off steam, hundreds of Marines took their cue from the 1959 Charlton Heston classic and gathered Saturday at a base near Fallujah for a slapstick chariot race featuring cobbled-together carts and confiscated Iraqi horses.

The Marine charioteers, wearing togas over their body armor, waved baseball bats done up as spiked maces and jumped into carts forged from cast-off vehicle parts. The makeshift chariots were pulled by Iraqi horses commandeered from looters in the area.

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''We're ready to go. I'm just ready to get this done. I want to go and kill people, so we can go home,'' said Lance Cpl. Joseph Bowman, 20, from North Zulch, Texas. ''Kill them and go home, that's all we can do now.'' But first, the Marines had a little fun with the horses. ''Friends, Romans, Marines: Lend me your ears for the rules,'' bellowed the master of ceremonies Capt. Jonathan Vaughn, 30, of Cleveland. ''If all horses die before the finish line, whichever makes it the farthest, wins.'' Vaughn's rule seemed prudent since some of the horses didn't look in prime racing shape, although none died. And the race didn't come off exactly as planned one steed turned on its charioteer in the first race and tried to bite the Marine who fended the horse off with a wooden trident, drawing loud cheers.

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A weapons team duo eventually prevailed in the final heat. The horse ran straight over the finish line, scattering Marine bystanders and slamming snout-first into sand-filled barriers. The horse was unhurt.

<http://www.boston.com/dailynews/311/world/U_S_Marines_in_Iraq_break_pre_:.shtml>

There is an awful picture by AP photographer Anja Niedringhaus of this brutal treatment of these horses: the horses are tied around their necks and have somehow twisted around to face the marines while still crudely hitched to the cart. The man is thrusting a huge trident spear into the terrified horses' faces. I couldn't find the picture on the web yet. The AP picture is in my local paper but not on the paper's website.

DU animal lovers and horse people: please help me protest the brutal treatment of these horses. In WWII, General Patton saved the Lippizzaners from extinction by cooperating with German veterinarians and the Spanish Riding School to evacuate the horses out of the danger zone. Now, we torture them. The horses in the picture look like Arabians. Horses are fragile creatures who can be easily crippled by this sort of barbaric treatment.

This story made me cry.
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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 04:30 PM
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1. Coming up next, Muslims will be fed to the lions! Don't miss it!
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livinbella Donating Member (477 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 04:32 PM
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2. first a little 'fun' with horses
and then maybe a little 'fun' with women folk
before they kill all the men and go home
(But not before they have a little more 'fun' with horses,
and women folk!).

One more reason I do not support our troops.
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 04:32 PM
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3. Next up for the Christian Olympians: Cross dragging
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 04:33 PM
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4. You are missng the actual picture of what is going on
Those marines are now gladiators... and for gladiators life had no meaning, theirs or anybody elses.

This is the point of the story

Marines are years ahead of us on this one... and Rome. the new Rome is here... and behaving like ... Rome
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 04:36 PM
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7. Oh indeed. And they're eating it up. Matches the video games...
...most of them have been playing since childhood.

PB
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 04:39 PM
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 11:58 AM
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15. Exactly
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 04:35 PM
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CAcyclist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 04:51 PM
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11. You didn't see the picture then
They had some really bizarre jerry-rigged set-up for this "race" At least they didn't know how to put on a real bridle with a bit - they tried to attach rope to a halter to control the horse.

Those idiots have absolutely no notion of how to handle a horse and had no business doing this. Who do they think they are commandeering some citizen's horse?

Horses are delicate and one pulled tendon could doom a horse who's job is work.
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 11:59 AM
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16. Do you have the picture online? I couldn't find it.
I only have the copy of my local paper with the picture.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 04:36 PM
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6. Poor dumb bastards
"I want to go and kill people, so we can go home," said Lance Cpl. Joseph Bowman, 20, from North Zulch, Texas. "Kill them and go home, that's all we can do now."

Jeeze Louise, that guy's in for a wake up. He's really been led to believe there's a finite number of people over there that can be killed so as to end the war.

Q- How many Iraqis do you need to kill before you can go home?
A- About 25 million

Q- How come the little old grannies in Iraq aren't picking up guns and shooting at our troops?
A- They still have some young men left to do the fighting.
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 01:53 PM
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19. that was the sad part (besides the horses). he thinks he's going
to get to come home soon.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 04:39 PM
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8. Anyone have a link to the Anja Niedringhaus photo the poster speaks of?
Thanks!

PB
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 11:57 AM
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13. I tried to find it but no luck so far.
I'm not a search expert. I'll try to scan and post my picture from the newspaper article.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 04:40 PM
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10. "Blowing off steam", that's what Rush said Abu Ghraib was all about. nt
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 04:55 PM
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12. Barbaric
even "confiscated" horses should not be put through such treatment. They belonged to someone, and the military was abusing that persons property.

these people are sick!
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 11:58 AM
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14. Didn't some soldier get arrested for commandeering
some Iraqi citizen's SUV?
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baby_mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 12:39 PM
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17. Good CHRIST

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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 01:38 PM
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18. This link has the photo:
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 01:58 PM
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20. kinda of a metaphor for what's happening over there.
"Vaughn's rule seemed prudent since some of the horses didn't look in prime racing shape, although none died. And the race didn't come off exactly as planned one steed turned on its charioteer in the first race and tried to bite the Marine who fended the horse off with a wooden trident, drawing loud cheers."

sorry, folks but this not going to go well, no matter how all of the generals say we have the advantage. the insurgents just have to out last us, allawi will have elections, but in only parts of iraq, the bombing will continue, and the us body count will continue to rise. how long before the draft should be the real question.

iran will join in soon, because they are really going to push for a nuke or two now. all of that plant seeds of discontent in iran is going to get buried by the mullah's because they know they are next.
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