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eleonora Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 05:20 PM
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OMG...this is breaking my heart
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/11/07/ground.zero.suicide.ap/index.html

NEW YORK (AP) -- A 25-year-old from Georgia who was distraught over President Bush's re-election apparently killed himself at ground zero.
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 05:22 PM
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1. Old news
Clone.
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eleonora Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 05:22 PM
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3. sorry, didn't see it before
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 05:22 PM
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2. You've gotta pull yourself past this or you'll spiral n/t
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 05:23 PM
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4. I can't remember a single other Presidential election driving someone
to suicide. Another Bush first.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 05:26 PM
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5. Which is exactly why we are going to have to put a whole lot of people
on pharaceutical drugs who do not want them (n)or need them .... :)
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 05:27 PM
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6. It made me think of buddhist monks in South Viet Nam
.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 05:59 PM
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12. Happens in the Third World all the time. Like the USA for instance.
I mean, now that we're joining the 3rd World...
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 05:38 PM
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7. He wasted himself for no discernible gain. . .
what use would he have been in the coming struggles?

I've no patience or compassion for senseless suicides. Had he been suffering from terminal illness, or used his death as something more than an ineffectual gesture, I may have a different opinion. But he just discarded his life. What a wasted effort he was . . . from the spasm to the descent he proved himself less than a hollow man.
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usrbs Donating Member (583 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 05:44 PM
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8. Where is your compassion?
Listen to yourself! Think about your reaction to what was an act of extreme despair. Haven't you ever reached your limit of what you could bear? If not, good for you, and bless your lucky stars. If so, I hope you were surrounded by people with much more empathy and fellow feeling than you seem to have.
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lawladyprof Donating Member (628 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 05:50 PM
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9. Well, some people are more fragile and vulnerable
I may be taking harder than some of colleagues who have family and/or a good support system (not knocking DU but. . . .).
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 05:56 PM
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11. Where was his compassion for those around him?. . .
What about his mother? And the rest of those who knew him? All they have left is the rotting remains of someone who lacked the decency to leave a note explaining his purpose.

How do we even know this had ANYTHING to do with BushCo and the election? The speculation of someone in a lab in Georgia, who bases her entire belief on the location of the act? Whoah, that's definite.

I have no compassion for suicides. My brother sits today in an apartment in Denver, a hemiplegic, confined to a wheelchair, frustrated and angry at BushCo and all they have done and will do to him. Hemiplegic! Wrap your compassion around that for a moment. This schlub from Georgia could walk, and talk, and do something about his situation. But he chose to kill himself. Well, I'll give his carcass the respect its due. Bury it and move on to the real troubles of the day. So long as my brother -- and countless millions more in similar situations -- can work up the effort each day to oppose the evil around them, I'll leave the dead to bury the dead.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 06:00 PM
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13. Did you by chance read about the Republican objecting that he did it THERE
Edited on Sun Nov-07-04 06:00 PM by plastic_turkeys
Bobbie Jensen, 54, a Republican from Phoenix, said that while she understood how Bush's victory disturbed those who dislike him, Ground Zero is not the place to act on those emotions.

"You can be upset about the war, about Bush, but this is a sacred place," she said.

As ticapnews said....Translation: Democrats, if you want to kill yourselves, don't do it on a holy Republican landmark.
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hollywood926 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 06:05 PM
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16. Someone might want to tell that twat that Ground Zero is NOT....
Repugnant Land, just because the repugs have been exploiting it for three years.

Bitch.
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mark414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 06:02 PM
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14. way to blame the victim
understand the psychology behind what would drive someone to suicide

there's probably a lot of people who were more distraught by bush's "win" than this kid, but their brains don't work (or fail) in the same way this kid's brain obviously was. not just anyone can be driven to suicide.
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hollywood926 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 06:02 PM
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15. I sort of agree with you, but....
grief and despair are emotions some of us can get past and others can not. A person commits suicide because he can't see any hope for the future. The guy was from Georgia - probably surrounded by people who he didn't understand and who didn't understand him.

Believe me, had I not had people in my life who were as disgusted with the outcome of this election as I was (am), the pain would have been unbearable.

It's a shame none of us were there with him to tell him he wasn't alone.

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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 06:32 PM
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17. And I repeat: How do we know this is about ShrubCo and the Election?. . .
Maybe he's some lovesick puppy who was rejected by a girl, and rather than admit he tossed his life away for such a silly excuse he traveled to New York to "make a statement." We'll never know. He didn't bother to leave a note for the true "victims" of this insanity: The one's he left behind, who will spend the rest of their days wondering what they could have done and where they went wrong. What an incredibly selfish and spiteful person his suicide proves him to be!

As I noted in my original post, there are people who kill themselves for purpose and effect, and they have every right to claim our compassion. But when someone senselessly wastes their life and in their selfishness does untold harm to those around him, I have nothing but contempt for them.
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Dangerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 05:52 PM
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10. I think I'm gonna vommit!
:puke:
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