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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 06:14 PM
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Evidence of voter fraud mounts
Edited on Sun Nov-07-04 06:19 PM by AIndependentTexan
http://www.blackboxvoting.org/bbv_chapter-13.pdf

Volusia County, Florida:
John Ellis, hired as an analyst for Fox TV News, knew exactly
the margin needed to call the 2000 presidential race for George W.
Bush. He was privy to the Voter News Service data, and he spoke
several times during the evening to his two cousins: Jeb and George
W. Bush.
At 2:09 a.m., the required vote margin appeared from Volusia
County, Florida. At 2:10 a.m., this margin was enhanced by a 4,000-
vote bump in Brevard County, and at 2:16 a.m., Ellis called the race
for George W. Bush. Within four minutes, NBC, CBS and ABC
followed suit. 5
Precisely the right margin appeared on a Volusia County machine
(Global Election Systems, now Diebold), amplified by a Diebold/
Global Election Systems machine in Brevard County. Unfortunately,
these vote totals were incorrect and soon disappeared, along with a
“card no. 3” which helped to create them.
If Al Gore had publicly conceded on election night, would we ever
have learned that these votes were bogus? Would there have been a
recount, and could the “Help America Vote Act” have passed, triggering
the rush to touch-screen machines?
We’ll never know, but thanks to an internal CBS report and a memo
written by Talbot Iredale, vice president of research and development
at Diebold Election Systems, we now know that the unexplained
replacement of a set of votes on a Diebold optical-scan machine in Volusia
County triggered a premature private concession from Al Gore to George
W. Bush and resulted in TV networks’ erroneously calling the election
for Bush instead of deeming it too close to call. The final “offical”
tally showed Gore losing by 527 votes, though the hand recount stopped
by the Supreme Court later gave the election to Gore.
Fox News Network, 29 November 2000: Brit Hume, host: “ ... It seems a
broken computer modem and a faulty memory card were culprits in the
erroneous election-night call of George W. Bush as the Florida winner ...
computers with a bad memory card caused it to appear for a time that Al
Gore had lost more than 16,000 votes, which seemed to put George W.
Bush up by 50,000 — at that stage in the night, an insurmountable margin.
Every network saw that as a basis for calling the state for Mr. Bush. ... ”
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http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Articles/Landes_Projections.htm

Voter News Service (VNS)

The news networks don't just report election news, they create it. But do they also conspire to control election results?



Voter News Service (VNS) is a top-secret private consortium owned by ABC News, The Associated Press, CBS News, CNN, Fox News, and NBC News. It's current headquarters is in Brooklyn, New York. It's been around (under different names) since 1964. It's the only company whose exit poll results are used by the news media to announce the "projected" winners in races for the president, U.S. House and Senate, state governors, and select races.



By 1964, computers were used to predict election outcomes, as well as to count votes on "punch cards." With the use of computerized vote counters and the news networks exclusive control over polling data in major elections, the gates to election fraud were wide open. Computerized voting machines have now made election fraud as easy as stealing candy from a baby.



So how could VNS help rig an election? VNS could conspire with corrupt government officials and crooked voting machine companies (whose reputation for fraud and "error" grows with every election) to come up with projections that closely mirror the expected election results. Then all that's needed is some 'tweaking' in targeted precincts where voting data can be manipulated, voting machines rigged ....and elections swung. VNS follows through with its de facto certification of election results that have already been fixed. If someone suspects vote rigging, there's always VNS to say that the results match their projections.



And with no oversight, who's to know?
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"We know that in ONE PRECINCT in suburban Columbus, the voting machines were wrong by almost 4,000 votes.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=694&u=/ap/20041105/ap_on_el_pr/voting_problems&printer=1

"We know that in Broward County, Florida, the same type of machine had similar errors and was off by 70,000 votes.

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/10103931.htm?1c
"We know that in Michigan City, Indiana, a computer glitch caused a 57,000 vote error -

"We know that in Craven County, NC, Bush received credit for 11,283 more votes than were actually cast in that county

http://www.newbernsj.com/SiteProcessor.cfm?Template=/GlobalTemplates/Details.cfm&StoryID=18297&Section=Local

"That's a combined error of roughly 150,000 votes that have been confirmed by the mainstream news media thus far.

These are machines that have no paper trail. Is this acceptable to you?"

http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/pol/48089077.html

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Stock symbol of Diebold - DBD and history

Stock history of selling shares in the below link. Check out the numbers and the dates.

http://www.smartmoney.com/eqsnaps/index.cfm?story=insiders&symbol=DBD

This is just the TIP of the iceberg! We need to investigate... who are these people? What are their ties?

Date Insider Relationship Transaction Type Number
of Shares Price Market Value
7/30/2004 LAUER JOHN N Director X 4,875 35.17 $171,466
7/29/2004 LASSITER PHILLIP B Director X 3,000 29.91 $89,730
6/30/2004 SHIPLEY GEORGE O Divisional Officer IS 2,995 NA $152,745
4/22/2004 ROSNER BRUCE Unknown IS 11,593 NA $580,229
3/16/2004 BOCKIUS LOUIS V III Director X 3,500 24.63 $86,188
3/05/2004 BOCKIUS LOUIS V III Director G 1,000 0.00 $0
2/23/2004 SHIPLEY GEORGE O Divisional Officer IS 2,800 NA $148,000
2/11/2004 FITZGERALD GALE S Director X 3,500 27.31 $95,596
2/11/2004 BUCCI DAVID Officer A 13,200 53.00 $699,600
2/11/2004 BUCCI DAVID Officer G 7,524 0.00 $0
2/11/2004 SWIDARSKI THOMAS W Officer A 4,620 53.00 $244,860
2/11/2004 O BRIEN DANIEL J Officer A 5,000 0.00 $0
2/11/2004 DETTINGER WARREN W General Counsel A 6,600 53.00 $349,800
2/11/2004 CHEN JAMES L M Officer A 6,600 53.00 $349,800
2/11/2004 INGRAM LARRY D Officer A 4,620 53.00 $244,860
2/11/2004 MORIARTY DENNIS M Officer A 4,620 53.00 $244,860
2/11/2004 RUSCIANO ANTHONY J Officer A 4,620 53.00 $244,860
2/11/2004 FRANCIS VOGELSANG CHAREE Officer A 3,960 53.00 $209,880
2/11/2004 KRAKORA KEVIN J Officer A 2,156 53.00 $114,268
2/10/2004 HICE FAMILY REVOCABLE LIVING TRUST Unknown IS 57,964 NA $3,094,700
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http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:RRDwWqO38JoJ:contracts.onecle.com/diebold/bankone.loan1.2000.11.01.shtml+President+of+Diebold+corporation&hl=en

Published on Thursday, August 28, 2003 by the Cleveland Plain Dealer

COLUMBUS - The head of a company vying to sell voting machines in Ohio told Republicans in a recent fund-raising letter that he is "committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year."
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http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:RRDwWqO38JoJ:contracts.onecle.com/diebold/bankone.loan1.2000.11.01.shtml+President+of+Diebold+corporation&hl=en

Two members, possibly more who are on the Republican National Committee and new board
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Bank ONE CEO's are part of Diebold. The same who committed fraud in ATM

they were ordered to remove their machines, but instead installed many all along the Ohio democratic counties and other counties in additional states......

I wonder why....here's more reports
http://www.morgenthaler.com/content/Buyouts/Portfolio%20News/CompelCEOFinal.pdf
Full report proves BANK ONE, BANK OF AMERICA creators are on the CEO directors board for Diebold corporation, who easily committed fraud the same way ATM's count their numbers up and down.
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http://www.truthout.org/docs_03/voting.shtml#part1

The story you are about to read is in this writer's view the biggest political scandal in American history, if not global history. And it is being broken today here in New Zealand.
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E-Voting Machines has a Halliburton/Cheney connection.

http://www.dissidentvoice.org/April2004/Landes0406.htm

Former President, Chief Operating Officer, and Vice Chairman of SAIC is Admiral Bill Owens, who is now Chairman of the Board for VoteHere. Owens also served as Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and was a senior military assistant to Secretaries of Defense Frank Carlucci and Dick Cheney. Carlucci's company is Carlyle Group, while Vice President Dick Cheney's former employer is Halliburton.
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The same Blackwell that tried to illegally stop Ohio people from voting because of the 80lb paper. This is also the same Blackwell that had approved of punch card CALLED HANGING CHADS.

http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Feb04/Fitrakis0226.htm

If Ohio’s Republican Secretary of State Kenneth Blackwell has his way, Diebold will receive a contract to supply touch screen electronic voting machines for much of the state. None of these Diebold machines will provide a paper receipt of the vote.

Diebold, located in North Canton, Ohio, does its primary business in ATM and ticket-vending machines. Critics of Diebold point out that virtually every other machine the company makes provides a paper trail to verify the machine’s calculations. Oddly, only the voting machines lack this essential function.
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AMY GOODMAN on republican party connections

AMY GOODMAN: Bev Harris, what about the company Diebold? Can you talk about who they are, their connections to those in power, to the Republican Party?

BEV HARRIS: First of all you need to understand that the voting division of Diebold is a subsidiary. It used to go under the name of Global Elections Systems, out of Mckinney Texas, actually they were out of Canada but they called themselves out of Mckinney, Texas. Debold, what they did was they bought this small company in Texas and kind of, they didn't really merge it in particularly they just let it continue to run in Mckinney,Texas with all its same people, its same software and so forth. But the Diebold company itself is interesting, it does have very strong Republican ties, specifically to the Bush administration. They have a C.E.O. named Wally Odell He is a close crony of Dick Cheney, in fact just recently in July he had Cheney come to his house and he held a fundraiser for Cheney that raised $500,000. They have a board of directors member who is one of the Bush Pioneers. That is a small and elite group that gives huge amounts of money to the presidential campaign. This fellow's name is W.H. Timcan. You may remember that Bush had a trip to Ohio. In this trip indeed who he went to visit was Timkin and toured around in Timkin’s company, of course Timkin is also one of the directors of Diebold. And it just seems – the other thing that we noticed, we put together a spread sheet of the contributions that were made by Diebold and Diebold employees. And they have a really unusual pattern of contributions which ends up funneling literally hundreds of thousands of dollars to a few Republican candidates. Very little to any other party.
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=03/08/13/1535236
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http://www.michaelmoore.com/mustread/index.php

from Michael Moore own website

Experts fear election fraud
http://www.trivalleyherald.com/Stories/0,1413,86~10669~2515618,00.htm

Less than one month after slashing its third quarter earnings forecast electronic voting machine maker Diebold's stocks are up, up, up!


http://ichart.finance.yahoo.com/w?s=DBD

Democratic Underground is mentioned BevHarris

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2602324
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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 07:48 PM
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1. boo
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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 08:15 PM
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2. So nobody wants to dig any deeper into this? Or am I alone?
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Timbuk3 Donating Member (727 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 08:28 PM
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3. You're not alone
You're just way ahead of me.

I'm compiling some things, including boycott ideas, for a web site. I have this thread bookmarked as a reference.

Just so you know your effort is appreciated...
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baby_bear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 10:30 PM
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4. There's some more discussion here
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=108&topic_id=116738&mesg_id=116738&page=

I think it's potentially huge. Proving is going to be incredibly difficult, but we have some time before certification.

Thanks for your post and all that info.

s_m
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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 02:18 PM
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5. boo
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irancontra Donating Member (689 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 02:20 PM
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6. boooo! I am with ya. It was fraud.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 02:52 PM
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7. Check THIS out.
Edited on Mon Nov-08-04 02:53 PM by Karenina
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 02:58 PM
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8. Thanks, bookmarked. n/t
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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 08:49 PM
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9. this is still here
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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 08:50 PM
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10. boo
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 08:53 PM
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11. Thanks for this.
Bookmarked to study it. You put a lot in here.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 09:01 PM
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12. overwhelming . . .
. . . a steaming volcano building pressure, threatening to erupt. Will it crust over with apathy, or is the fault too large and widespread?

I think this thing is about to blow!
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 09:20 PM
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13. DETTINGER, WARREN W
DBD: Insider Transactions for DIEBOLD INC - Yahoo! Finance
... 22-Mar-04. DETTINGER, WARREN W. 11,956 ... 11-Feb-04. DETTINGER, WARREN W. 6,600 ...
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/it?s=dbd
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A search on Money in Politics Database (http://www.tray.com/cgi-win/indexhtml.exe?MBF=EMP)

27 records of DIEBOLD employees donating to political campaigns, and 16 of which to the Bush-Cheny 04 Campaign. http://aittimes.mithuro.com/diecntr.html

DETTINGER, WARREN W
6/25/2003 $500.00
CANTON, OH 44708
DIEBOLD INC -
VOINOVICH FOR SENATE COMMITTEE
______________________________________________________


Diebold Board of Directors and GOP related contributions
http://ojingo.beerdrinker.org/index.php?p=140&c=1

Diebold’s Board of Directors, ( http://www.corporate-ir.net/ireye/ir_site.zhtml?ticker=DBD&script=2200) are big time Republican Party supporters and financial backers.

Faun Otter ( http://www.bartcop.com/diebold.htm) found what the Diebold Board of Directors had been contributing to the Republican Party over the past several years.
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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 03:50 PM
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14. boo
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