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shelley806 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 06:34 PM
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If this was supposed to be "the most important election in out lifetimes,"
I want to know several things. I'll list a few.

1.) First and foremost, where is Kerry? Edwards? Dean? Clark?
DNC? ON ADDRESSING FRAUD. IT HAPPENED. WHY ARE THEY GIVING
UP? I am infuriated at the hypocrisy of them now. Every
vote counts FOR WHOM????

2.) If this was the most important election of our lives, then why? ABB? The war? The economy? The lying
hypocritical criminals in the WH? Fear over terrorism? "Moral
Issues?" Gay rights? Abortion? Stem Cell Research? The
Environment?

For me personally, I believe that the war outweighs every other issue, but since it is B* war, few would support B* and oppose the war, which is one of the most convincing factors in the issue of fraud. I simply do not believe he had a mandate. And I don't believe that more than 50% of people are dumb enough to elect an immoral administration on moral grounds. It just doen't add up.
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 06:38 PM
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1. I blame Kerry for quitting after he promised he wouldn't.
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 06:42 PM
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2. I'm going to withhold criticism of Kerry for 1 week
Edited on Sun Nov-07-04 06:43 PM by alittlelark
Sometimes, when you pick up a hat, a rabbit pops out. Generally it does not. I'm rooting for the rabbit.

<edited for freeper-spelling>
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 08:06 PM
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13. I'm going to give Kerry and Edwards a pass on this one
until I know more. I keep getting the sinking feeling that they were threatened with something that is worse than anything we can imagine. Remember that the criminals who are sitting in our government, robbing our treasury, are capable of anything.
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DenaliDemocrat Donating Member (536 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 06:44 PM
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3. The Fraud?
Hell, I'd be happy if someone, anyone, would just step up and LEAD, tell us we lost the battle but will win the war. Patronize me, placate me....whatever. We need a leader goddamnit, and they are all hush hush right now. No wonder we got our asses beat.
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shelley806 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 06:48 PM
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5. Why though? That is what I don't get! n/t
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Nordic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 07:07 PM
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9. yeah, where are our fucking leaders? This is why
I am through with the party.

They have a death wish.

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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 08:08 PM
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14. I have said all along they are the German Social Democrats of 1933
And soon, Reichstag II will occur.
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DireStrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 06:46 PM
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4. I think the internet is magnifying the time loss.
It's not yet a week since the election... I still have faith that things will start to come out, but I think it won't happen before lots of us start to come down. =(
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shelley806 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 06:49 PM
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6. That is a good point...I'm so depressed right now. Patience...n/t
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 06:52 PM
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7. Well, you know you're just brilliant
We're used to a "click here" and an instant response to everything. Still, the overwhelming silence of the leadership is curious.
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shelley806 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 06:55 PM
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8. Has anyone heard anything? n/t
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 07:21 PM
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10. I can't still figure out what happened
I keep looking for reasons and I can't find one that makes sense. I know it may have been stolen, but damn, where is the evidence? It is fine to say it was stolen, but how can we take off on that when there are no paper trails?

If there are NO paper trails, then there is room for plausible denial and given the propaganda ministry of this crew in the
WH, that is enough for them to run with it.

I just watched a video on BBC provided by a Du,er here and Poppy Bush got hung up on the exit polls far too much. It was methinks, the lady doth protest too much. But still, there is NO proof only circumstantial evidence that would be easily refuted with the giant propaganda machine.

and we do NOT have any dedicated leaders hanging around. They seem to want business as usual. I don't think that Kerry appreciated how much people dedicated their heart and their soul and their guts to defeating Bush and if he did, he chose to let us down with his conceding. Clinton is worse, telling us not to whine about it.

Sheesh

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shelley806 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 08:03 PM
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12. Thanks so much for this thoughtful post...I think that there is more than
enough circumstantial evidence if the facts are presented succinctly enough. I'd like to give Clinton a piece of my mind right now though.
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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 07:24 PM
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11. it WAS and now, we are well and truly fucked. Doomed. nt
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blue sky at night Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 08:15 PM
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15. i agree, I am pissed and I agree.....
Where in the heck are those guys? Who are those guys? I posted yesterday asking if anyone had tried to contact JK for Pres?? NOt one reply. Let's start calling them and the DNC to see if we can get an answer.
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shelley806 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 08:19 PM
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16. I am with you . Someone has to find out something. You can't tell
more than half of the U.S. that every vote counts, no surrender, and walk off and just let all of this evidence of fraud go unnoticed.
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