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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 12:48 AM
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A problem for the Republicans in 08!
Who on earth can they run who is a big shot and also gets along with the Religious Right?

It's not John McCain or Rudy! I can't think of anyone who is well known and panders to the religious right. Can anyone think of someone?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 12:50 AM
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1. be very afriad
Jeb Bush
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Steelangel Donating Member (731 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 12:51 AM
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4. Oh boy. Let's hope not.
We surely does not need other Bush.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 12:53 AM
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8. I am willing to bet this is the plan from the
bush crime family if they cannot remove term limits ammendment from the Consttitution and allow george to run once again.

Oh and we are bothj assuming the farce will continue and we will actually go through the motions again
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 01:26 AM
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41. they can't remove term limits, we'd run Clinton again who would win. n/t
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Brundle_Fly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 12:53 AM
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11. Jeb
Doesnt not have the ability to enchant idiots as much as GW.

Jeb certainly doesnt have the cowboy schtick. Jeb is boring, and has no charisma, and George will have destroyed everything (if we even get that far.) too much for another shrub to ever get the nomination again.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 12:55 AM
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15. Yuo and I live in reality they don't
they mamufacture reality

Look I say this becuse of the fanatics on AOL that kept saying this, George in 04, jebbie on '08

I know seems incredible, but I no longer will discount that one
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Flagius Donating Member (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 12:57 AM
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21. no...
I think you vastly under estimate the incredible stupidity of the American people.
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NEOBuckeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 12:52 AM
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6. But wait. Jeb is CATHOLIC!
No way the fundies will go for that one.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 12:53 AM
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12. so is Arnie
minor problem that tehy will overlook, for poltical gain
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 12:53 AM
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13. so is Arnie
minor problem that tehy will overlook, for poltical gain
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Bleacher Creature Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 12:53 AM
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10. I'd take that one in a second
I'd be shocked if Shrub's approval ratings are above 35% in four years. People will be much more likely to want to get that whole corrupt family out of Washington.
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Flagius Donating Member (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 12:55 AM
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18. Bingo.
Edited on Mon Nov-08-04 12:58 AM by Flagius
That was my thought as well. Hes actually quite a bit more presentable than Bush, and hes more eloquent. The problem he may have is that his wife was caught trying to sneak in over $20,000 worth of merchandise she purchased overseas and his daughter Noel being a crackhead. And if god forbid we have 8 years of Jeb... George P. Bush would be waiting in wings, and probably old enough to run...
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 01:02 AM
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28. From what I saw during George P's visit here, he has no charisma either...
Flat, disengaged. Also, didn't he run car up on the lawn of a girlfriend he had a falling out with....
Let's see if he runs for Congress...then we'll know if he has plans for anything higher...but it will be after 2008, for sure.
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Flagius Donating Member (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 01:06 AM
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31. Ummm
None of them have Charisma. That turncoat Lieberman has more charisma than any Bush.
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RummyTheDummy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 01:06 AM
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32. Jeb has said he will not run
And furthermore....


www.pollingreport.com

66 percent don't want Jeb to run
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Flagius Donating Member (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 01:10 AM
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36. In 3 years he may change his mind.
Flip-flopping runs in the family. Plus Rudy doesn't have a chance in hell. He is too moderate on certain issues, and the comment he made 2 weeks ago blaming the troops for the missing explosives will come and bite him in the ass. Not to mention the really messy divorce he went through where his ex-wife was living in the Mayor's mansion and he was shacked up with his girlfriend.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 01:24 AM
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39. And that affects this reality they have creaetd exactly how?
I ain't kidding people, we need to start thinkking like they do...
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 12:50 AM
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2. I'M not gonna help them . . .
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nostalgicaboutmyfutr Donating Member (991 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 12:50 AM
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3. pat robertson....or dobson himself...
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freetobegay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 12:51 AM
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5. Rick Santorum
:mad:
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 12:58 AM
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23. Ralph Reed? Lindsey Graham? Franklin Graham? (aka Billy Graham 'Jr')
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 01:02 AM
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27. The Graham Crackers!
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 12:52 AM
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7. Half of those that voted for them will be dead by old age?
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freetobegay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 12:55 AM
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16. Thats a pleasant thought thanks!
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NEOBuckeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 12:58 AM
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22. Pat Buchannan mentioned this. The fall of the GOP is inevitable.
Edited on Mon Nov-08-04 01:00 AM by NEOBuckeye
They're mostly all a bunch of old fogyish White Anglo-Saxon Protestant men (WASPs) -- Think "Poppy" George H. W. Bush, Jim Baker and Dick Cheney.

As they go, so goes the party.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 01:00 AM
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26. Maybe we should get rid of Social Security and speed up the process!
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Flagius Donating Member (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 01:22 AM
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38. Nice thought...
But it doesn't hold too much weight. As someone who lives in a red county in Florida I can tell you that the next generation is far scarier.
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tedoll78 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 12:53 AM
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9. Well-known?
Hmm.. not sure.

My hunch is that Frist will get the nod.

But then again, his father and brother are owners of a healthcare company that provide reproductive services for women. And Frist holds some financial stock in that company. So he might be doomed if this is spread..
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 12:54 AM
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14. Tom DeLay
Jeb Bush
Alan Keyes
Katherine Harris
Bill Frist
Sam Brownback
Pete Coors

To name a few. Some, obviously are more likely than others.
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NEOBuckeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 01:11 AM
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37. DeLay's number is nearly up. Keyes got demolished by Obama.
Not that he actually had a chance.

Katherine Harris has pretty much been disowned by Jeb and the Florida GOP. They used her and dumped her like a whore.

Racist Pete Coors thankfully lost his bid. It appears some sanity still prevails in Colorado.

Frist has proven to be about as charismatic as The Gingrinch so far. The average Bush-voting Republican probably has no idea as to who he is or what he is in Congress. I've got nothing on Brownback.

My conclusion? Rove will push to roll back the 22nd Amendment shortly after the 2006 elections, so that he can re-install Dubya in 2008. Don't underestimate the possibility of this happening under the extreme bunch they've got in Washington now.
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 12:55 AM
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17. Hegel - who developed the other half of the BBV machines
Yep, and he knows where all the bodies are buried.
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4dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 12:56 AM
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19. Don't concern yourself with 2008!!
The battle is NOW.. Quit wasting efforts on the future and concentrate on the current situation!!

KERRY WON and we need to fight that fight now!! We need to awaken the machine that gave Kerry 55 MILLION votes and turn off the corporate media!!

Set you priorities!!
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 12:58 AM
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24. for me 2004 is what matters until the BBV is proven or not
(and I know Kerry won)

But sharing where the repukes, who control the machines, will go

Does not matter how good or bad the candidate is, the machine wants him, can be arranged
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 12:57 AM
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20. The UnRight Also Decimated McCain
They want their little Armageddon producing Israeli protecting boy front and in center. They are simple enough that they have no concept that Pat and Jerry are corporate globalists. True Bushies.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 01:00 AM
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25. Rick Santorum or Bill Frist against the more sensible Chuck Hagel
i think it will come down to that with john mccain backing chuck hagel and bush backing one of the extremists.

i worry about bill frist the most because unlike most republican men who always have some ugly bitter angry hateful look on their face all the time, bill frist comes across as a kind uncle. and while he is very conservative he isn't a nutcase and he is intelligent. if i was a republican i would probably want bill frist to be the candidate. and that is exactly why as a democrat i DON'T want bill frist as the republican nominee in 2008.

i would rather have someone like pataki who is catholic and prochoice and pro gay rights with a record of gun control and from the northeast. the evangelicals will probably be turned off by him and this would be the republicans biggest base will not be very enthusiastic to get out the vote as they did with the chimpanzee.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 01:03 AM
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29. You are aware chuckie crseated the Diebold Monster
and he is in cahoots, just checking
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President Jesus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 01:04 AM
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30. Don't forget- Bush's coalition is more than just fundies
His coalition is made up of:
the rich
financial, health, and insurance sectors
hawks
gun nuts
fundamentalists
nationalists

Hand it to Bush, the guy does appeal to more than just one group of people, unlike many of the possible candidates listed above.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 01:07 AM
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33. a man who's been flying under the radar
but is VERY RW and appeals to the x-tian base...(relatively) young, good-looking, and charismatic is how he'll be packaged---Sen. George Allen of VA....he has ties in the south, hates minorities, and is the son of a football coach...can be VERY hard to beat in a race
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 01:08 AM
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34. Hi my name is Rick and I would like you to vote for me


And get ready to have to fight like hell to keep Pennsylvania blue.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 01:37 AM
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42. God I hope he is the candidate.
For Saturday Night Live's sake alone. Please let it be him!
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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 01:09 AM
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35. They can put up a pile of shit -- and it/he would win
As long as they count the votes and THEY have the voting machines -- it does NOT matter.

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Mr. Blonde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 01:24 AM
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40. I am very much opposed to the thought of having a president named
Jeb. I will be honest outside of having two first names, that is the most redneck name I can think of. I wonder how long it is until someone named Billy Bob is nominated by the right.
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