Can we stop calling them "moral values" and call them what they are

[HEyHEY]

"Moronic shortcomings"

No, seriously, they aren't moral values. They are personal beliefs. And somehow calling them moral values makes them seem noble. There is nothing noble about the "Values" that supposedly won this election.

[Old and In the Way]

1. What's wrong with "moral values"?

It's not like they value morals or anything.

[aquart]

10. Then DO NOT let them claim the words.

Rephrase. Attack.

[Cobalt Violet]

2. Nothing noble about the Neo Con Election Robbery either.

[ReaderSushi]

3. Or better yet.

Skew the polls; we all say moral values are most important to us and are voting for <insert Democratic candidate>.

[Gelliebeans]

4. its prejudice

plain and simple and people feel the need to back pedal when you tell them that is all it is

[212demop]

5. just a euphemism for bigotry

those who truly value human life would be outraged and heartbroken by the bloodshed of innocents in Iraq

[AZCat]

6. And what exactly are "immoral values"?

If there are moral ones, there must be immoral ones, right?

I'd like to see a list, dammit! I may not be fulfilling my potential as a bogeyman for the right.

[SammyWinstonJack]

7. How about Moral hypocrites?

Or moral liars? I am just disgusted so don't mind me.

[LibertyorDeath]

8. Like it but..

that's "Moranic shortcomings" :)

[countmyvote4real]

9. I’m all for moral values just as long as

they don’t infringe on mine or the greater good of the nation state.

When you’re right, you know it. When you’re wrong, you have to cheat. Their values are fucked by their actions.

[aquart]

11. Define a "moral value." Does it go from one to five? Ten?

What is the moral value of turning a girl onto the street because she has become pregnant out of wedlock? What's it worth? Is it on a scale or simply a dollar amount?

Make them scared to death to use the words.

[countmyvote4real]

13. Face it. It's in the eye of the beholder.

I would like to enlighten everyone, but I've been shunned by my own family in the process.

[ever_green]

12. They don't have a monopoly on morals!!!!!

That ticks me off! I voted on morals TOO! I'm anti-war and pro-environment, those are morals! The media makes me SICK.

[Starlight]

14. *I* choose candidates based on their moral values...

and I would NEVER vote for any of the current administration!! :spank: Their "moral values" include personal attributes such as: bigotry, racism, narcissism, conceit, pride, pomposity, materialism, self-interest, greed, neglect, thoughtlessness, cruelty, barbarism, sadism, fraud, deceit...I could go on & on. :puke:

[Lone Pawn]

15. No. We need to reclaim moral values.

We need to take American values and ram them up the Right's ass. Compassion. Hope. Equality. Fairness. Mutual support. Nurturing. Investment in our future and in our children's futures. Take them and redefine the values war. I guarantee that while we won't take their base, we can take the independants. If we start holding real values close to our hearts, the American people will see that their values are based around hate and ignorance. We have the true values. But we need to show America.

[Cleita]

16. Actually, they are principles valued by racists and sexists.

I know. I have lived among them for a long time.

[TrogL]

17. How 'bout "mule-rah values"

just like "fambly values"

[Ms. Toad]

18. Reclaiming stolen phrases is important

either by turning them back around to their true meaning, or by naming them accurately.

I haven't thought through one for moral values yet, but I routinely (since long before it was used in the convention) have used the phrase, "family values means valuing all families" (or "when I hear someone referring to family values I know if is code for 'I don't value your family'")

I also refer to the DOMA/amendments as Marriage discrimination amendments.