We are in a state of Emergency, America versus the Evangelicals

[mopaul]

this is not a joke. not an exaggeration. not a wild eyed scene from invasion of the body snatchers. this is real and it is a real crisis. i've been predicting it for years, to deaf ears.

now, it's here. the evangelicals or bornagains are our number one threat people. they smile, they shop and look just like the rest of us, some here are evangelicals. but the horror is almost unleashed.

real horror is coming if the evangelicals are not stopped in their delusion of prophecy and end times. they are now ready, this is their time and they can feel it, it's never enough for them, they want it ALL.

even if it means that MILLIONS OF PEOPLE HAVE TO DIE.

you know i'm not kidding. this is some serious, scary shit people.

[aquart]

1. Islamic immigration has them scared shitless.

Which is extremely odd since they agree in almost all things.

[grasswire]

2. I think they're scared most...

....at the loss of the white majority, coming soon.

[aquart]

4. Same thing.

[JI7]

5. it's not as if many of them have much power in terms of money

most of them are poor . but i guess that's why they turn to religion and take pride in things like "country, god, etc" and focus on things like wanting to ban gay marriage or abortion.

they keep voting for people who do things such as give huge tax breaks to corporate executives who have a lifestyle these people would thing is full of sin.

[mopaul]

6. so many contradictions they can't see them

they are poor, but vote for billionaires, they worship the prince of peace, but sanction the slaughter of 100,000 innocent people without a wimper. they demand the ten commandments be posted everywhere but totally ignore them. they SHALT kill, they SHALT covet their neighbor's oil, they SHALT bear false witness, etc.

i believe they are hypnotized to the point at which they'd turn on us, if told to do so. it's a cult thing, like i've never seen in my life.

[JI7]

11. it just comes down to gays and abortion for them

they are simple minded. they aren't able to think in complicated ways. it's either you support the troops and america or you hate america if you criticize in any way.

even on abortion they are too stupid to see that if they truly wanted to reduce abortion they could support programs to help poor women who get pregnant but they view that as big government spending by liberals.

it's no wonder these fools fell for it when the church leaders said they will go to hell if they vote for kerry.

[girl gone mad]

12. That's what is at the heart of the fundamentalist movement.

I was eating dinner with some Indian friends tonight and they made the point for me, which I think rings true.

White people see scores of immigrants coming to their country from dufferent places, exposing their children to new cultures, and they are scared. They revert back to their fundamentalist traditions as a way of clinging to their waning dominance. I think 9/11 may have also contributed to their sense of fear and urgency.

[mopaul]

13. this day has been coming for a long time

a world not dominated by a few crazy white people.

[yowzayowzayowza]

3. I just wish this whole ...

end-times thing would happen already. I've got my eye on a Mercedes with one of those bumperstickers reading: "Warning: In case of rapture this vehicle will be unmanned."

[NurseLefty]

7. If they think the reelection of Bush is divine intervention

as Bush thinks God told him to run for office, that the rest of us should repent and bow down to their Jeesuhs, they are once again delusional and mistaken. I for one think that Bush winning is further proof that a personal god does not exist.

[mopaul]

8. the creator of the universe picked 'bush' to be our leader?

it just don't make sense. i lean toward the no god theory too, after last tuesday

[m berst]

9. yes we are

We are in a state of emergency because there is a coup d'etat in progress.

Tomorrow we will take a stand? Next time? Everyone said that in 2000.

A stand postponed is a stand that will NEVER be taken.

Tomorrow has arrived. There is no next time.

[regnaD kciN]

10. Remember the echo-chamber! It's not the "evangelicals," it's the...

...fundamentalist hate brigade!

[demobabe]

14. divide and conquer

i definitely think there is a crisis - and i'm scared too, but this administration has been working its hardest to divide the country to get us all to fall into the trap of "it's us against them."

we're going to keep running up against a wall if we argue with or fight them. i know a bunch of these people are plain old NUTS, but i'm wondering if there is a way to acutally UNITE everyone - personally, i'm SICK of the whole implication of "democrats are evil, godless people who are going to hell."

i keep wondering if it's too late to save what's left of the constitution...

[LadyinRed]

16. A Perfect Opportunity to express your personal views on Religion

But is this really the time? The Government is not Evangelical, Christian, nor do they hold any true Religious beliefs.
Use this Election for your own personal issues if you will, however when the time comes, you will go down with everyone else who is not on the Elitest List and historically, it changes daily.
This is not about RELIGION in any form or by any name. It is about gaining POWER by any means possibly.

Know your Enemies
Failure of the public to know, or refusal to recognize, the arrogance and corruption in the three branches of the federal government, has made possible enormous personal and financial harm upon the American people as a whole, and tens of thousands of individual men and women.

A few quotes from the recent past:
For the first time ever, everything is in place for the battle of Armageddon and the Second Coming of Christ. It can't be too long now. Ezekiel says that fire and brimstone will be rained upon the enemies of God's people. That must mean that they will be destroyed by nuclear weapons." California Governor Ronald Reagan.

“The US must be dedicated to economic, diplomatic, and military support of Israeli aggression and expansionism, keeping the Middle East in turmoil so as to prevent Arab unity and Arab economic development.” Henry Kissinger

"The office of the President of the US is sacred...God has chosen Richard Nixon to be President. Therefore, only God has the power and authority to dismiss him." Reverend Sun Myung Moon, head of the Unification Church.

“Nixon is involved with the Mafia!” Martha Mitchell, wife of Nixon’s Attorney General

”Eliminate everyone except George Bush. Bush will do anything for our cause.” President Richard Nixon

This is long, but if you don't have the past 40 years of Political History burned in your brain, you need to read it and continue to research the Republican Party and what they have been doing (at least) since Eisenhower.

http://www.winterboy.com/dejavu11.html

The Evangelicals are not the ENEMY. They may stand by and watch as many Patriotic Germans did when Hitler started his purging of of the misfits, but they had no control over him or his government and they did not object to mis-fits being systematically removed. The realization hit them when their neighbors and family started to disappear and then it was too late.

This Government is not Evangelical. It uses any group who will follow and will rid itself of them when they are no longer needed.

We are living the legacy of many years of planning and it has nothing to do with Religion. The ENEMY has used ayone who will follow and not only Evangelicals voted for Bush. The rich and elite paid or paved the way.

Please identify the ENEMY for who they are.
Sheep do not lead, they follow.
Sheep (always) realize too late that a wolf is among them.
Sheep do not fight, they lay down and die.

You may be angry and frustrated after last week's election, but it will be far worse if you continue to consentrate on a non-existant entity and not the real ENEMY.

[German-Lefty]

19. disagreement about the sheep

They may stand by and watch as many Patriotic Germans did when Hitler started his purging of of the misfits, but they had no control over him or his government and they did not object to mis-fits being systematically removed.
The Pope could have blocked Hitler's rise to power. He said nothing. More priests helped the Nazis than fought against them.

You argue Christianity is not the enemy. Ok, not all Christianity, but the nutty kind I've seen in the states does. If you're a Christian first and a human and member of society last, then there's a problem. Here's the general philosophy I've experienced:
Morality is only revealed to us through the Bible and prayer. Our religious leaders do this well, so we should trust them to tell us what's right and wrong. I'm not capable of making choices on our own.

Ok, sheep aren't the enemy; it's the people leading the sheep. In the war of ideas though, this sheep philosophy is the enemy.

[The Minus World]

15. You Nailed It.

How much farther can it go before people begin waking up to this unpleasant reality?

Our media has become so watered down that, in order to maintain an inhuman level of optimism, it risks lives by omitting the facts. Even then, many right-wing warhawks could care less whether G.W. Bush and his buddies stole the election again - just so long as we're bombing the hell out of the Middle East. Same with the radical religious right.

Since those two groups are undoubtedly in the minority, the media ensures the ignorance of all Americans who don't naturally fit into those categories. Just look on any popular homepage site: MSN, Netscape - riddled with links to beaming analysis of this past election. Haven't they been paying attention to the news? Or are they the creators of the news; definers of importance and relevance in times of information overload?

Simply put - we are being lied to through omission.

The U.S. is in the process of being radically reshaped by these fringe-walking lunatics, and the new shape has no room for rational analysis, dissent or tolerance.

I am serious when I say this, DUers: prepare yourselves for the worst.

[Bluebear]

17. How to prepare, how to prepare?

All Tom Ridge told me was to get duct tape. Someone needs to recommend a comprehensive "Handy dandy guide to approaching religious fascism and how to defend yourself against it" booklet.

[Cronus Protagonist]

18. If Kerry had said that, would we have won?

Or would most people think it would be a good thing...?

http://bushspeaks.com/home.asp?did=188