Morning Sedition: We lost, so shut up about fraud

[robbedvoter]

They are now praising the genius of Karl Rove while mocking activists for "whining". Seems the party line has been given to those two. Of my listening time.

[hlthe2b]

1. I think they are being sarcastic....and indulging in a bit of

"gallows humor...." seems to me, at least

[robbedvoter]

11. No sarcasm. They opened the show by saying they are fed up with

e-mails about the fraud and we shouldn't box ourselves in with outlandish positions.
They are pretty much echoing Clinton. (don't whine, we'll win next time , after adopting their positions)
Even mocked Moveon!

[hlthe2b]

13. I missed that.... damn....

We truly are pushing a massive force up a mountain-side....

[Sperk]

2. this is why we "lose", we refuse to see the real battle

Again I say, would the Repugs have allowed Diebold to happen if Soros was the CEO? NEVER. We will never see a democrat or a moderate republican elected again until we take back the counting!!!

[truthpusher]

4. You can't fight a battle on only one front - we are working all sides!

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

6. Absolutely.

The solution in this is not monolithic. It is going to be a mix of methods and messages. It is going to be in the manner in which each message is presented to the larger populace. It is going to be in the way we craft our expectations of time frame and results.

We will not win them all, and we will not attain instant gratification. With intrepidness, intelligence and both tactical and strategic thinking we will gain.

Put down the magical thinking. Tamp down the fear. If you are not in this for the long haul, then you might as well start gobbling thorazine right now. Shut your squash down. Do yourself a favor.

[Skidmore]

3. You know, they are right though.

We can navel gaze, or we can work on solving the problem of BBV and fraud--on both sides. We can bitch, or we can get to work on election reform. We can piss and moan, or we can set about hammering out alliances and reforming the party. I'm personally at the point at which I go to the county auditor and change my voter registration to Independent.

[MSgt213]

5. I'm an Independent. You can still fight the good fight

[stellanoir]

7. One of the Marks. . .

I never know which is which. . . just clarified and said they'll have a BBV person on at 8:10. He said that even if there is proof of fraud that the dems would still need to address the fact that 55 million people in the country still equate "liberalism" with lack of patriotism.

Also wasn't saying not to donate to BBV.

They must have gotten some vitriolic e-mails I guess.

[Stephanie]

9. They are having Congressman Jerry Nadler on in a minute

Congressman from NYC, who wrote the letter with Wexler asking for investigation.

[quiet.american]

22. Feel the love of Big Brother

I sort of listened to Morning Sedition today, but kept turning it down when Maron would go into his rants about their CEO and staff not appreciating the show enough or whatever else he was complaining about. That might work for Howard Stern, but Maron doesn't quite seem to pull it off.

Anyway, from reading the comments here about the show, it seems like the two Marks are dipping into the Repub Kool-Aid punchbowl anyway and gulping down the swill. Isn't the whole point that this is supposed to be a democracy? And in a democracy, vote-tampering is against the law? That's why this election needs to be looked into, doesn't it?

Why are those who speak for the Democratic rank-and-file so routinely mealy-mouthed?

Thank God for Mike and Randi.

Oh, and David Van Os, too.

[Cronus Protagonist]

8. Well, Karl does deserve some recognition for his work..

[stellanoir]

10. Yikes

that rag cover says it all !

[robbedvoter]

12. Hack now saying nobody believed kerry during the debates

geez, I remember networke saying all undecideds swayed to him.
But darn "hard work" always wins!

[in_cog_ni_to]

14. So, we are to believe that all those NEW voters and all the "undecideds"

went to the damn idiot-in-chief? BULLSHIT! WHO is this guy on the show?

Has Mark and Mark given up on the good fight? I may never listen to them again. What a bunch of bullshit.

[robbedvoter]

16. They had Ira Glaser on who said kerru lost the debates!

he hated Kerry (I am no big lover myself), and said "no one believed him - on anything". The old BS with "close enough to be stolen - which is like 75% of known AQ leaders.....
We had a f*ing landslide - it was ABB, and it was strong - what Kerry did wrong is irrelevant - because LOOK AT THE OTHER SIDE!!!!!

[4dsc]

15. More damn defeatist??

Why don't thye just join the corporate owned news media!!

Call them and tell them they are wrong!!

[RBHam]

17. They should change their name to Morning Conformist...

Ready to sell their country down the drain to please Karl rove and his Christian Deconstructionist thugs...

Fools...

[Butterflies]

18. Just wait for Randi's show

She was great on Friday, and I'm looking forward to what she found out over the weekend.

[Ducks In A Row]

20. Yes, Randi saved my sanity last week.

but I expected her to come out swinging.

I hear Malloy is the same kind of fighter, but it's too late for me to listen.

Sadly, the rest are worthless

[robbedvoter]

19. I wrote this piece for the 2 Marks

http://robbedvoter.forclark.com/story/2004/11/8/12264/4820

[Ducks In A Row]

21. Maybe they are in shock, seeing how they expected...

to be the radio station of the winners.

They didn't really sign on to be part of a revolution, in their mind they were part of a wave of winners.


Well, too bad. If they aren't up to the fight they can leave and let someone carry their water. I'm sure there are people ready to take their show and run with it.