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JudyM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 12:55 PM
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Al Franken talking about vote stealing right now
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 12:58 PM
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1. How bizarre... I've been streaming all morning and it hasn't come up...
They just had the ditto head... Did I miss something?
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JudyM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 01:01 PM
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2. He said he was about to, then didn't. wtf? maybe after Jessica Lynch.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 01:02 PM
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3. He is lining his duckies in a row before going on air with it
he said he will talk to an MIT guy but will go on air with it

He said he does not want us to look like sore loosers or conspiracy theorists

I think he is being ultra careful since he enters far more markets than most of the rest of the crew
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 01:03 PM
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4. what's he saying??
I'm stuck in a cube :(
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Shopaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 01:04 PM
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5. He said that he does plan on covering this because there are
legit questions about the election but he wants to have basically, all of his stuff together before he does, as the earlier poster said.He said that he's been deluged with info from listerners.
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lovedems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 01:06 PM
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6. He basically said he wasn't ready to say that the election was stolen
but that he has received many emails wanting him to address it. He wants the facts before he will jump to conclusion but stresses it is important to get the facts.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 01:11 PM
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7. He needs to handle it like this..

The moment he says it, they will start in on him.

He needs proof. Lots of it.

Randi can get away with ranting about FRAUD. She has been a soldier.

They are playing Good Cop Bad Cop and that is OK with me.

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lovedems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 01:14 PM
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8. Not that it matters to the liberals
but Bill O'lielly never passes up a chance to go after Al. I can just imagine his talking points for 2 months going after Al and the "liberals". Since perception is reality to his viewers this movement could be hampered by misinformation by faux news et.al. Careful is better.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 01:15 PM
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9. Right
That tactic works really well for Alan Colmes.

:eyes:
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lovedems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 01:18 PM
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10. What tactic?
Edited on Mon Nov-08-04 01:20 PM by lovedems
Careful is better?

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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 01:24 PM
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12. The one where we try not to piss off the Republicans
Even when they were out of power, did Limbaugh ever pull punches? Did Faux News?

I'm not talking about lying my ass off like they are, but whatever happened to speaking truth to power?

Careful does not impress the voters. That should be obvious right now.
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lovedems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 01:30 PM
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13. You know, I think half the reason (note: I am not saying the entire reason
Bush won in 2000 is because those dumbass fools at faux news called Florida for him when the AP still said it was too close. Once the perception set in that Bush won, Gore was fighting an uphill.

I am simply stating I don't want to see that happen with this voter fraud story. It is far to important. I would much rather gather all of the facts and present a solid case to the public (hopefully it will get that far). Truth to power, absolutely! Let's show we have the truth on our side.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 01:36 PM
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14. If you don't make noise about it now, even before we have 'solid' proof
Edited on Mon Nov-08-04 01:36 PM by htuttle
...everyday that goes by makes it more unlikely that anything would change as a result, even if fraud were discovered.

Did the Republicans have solid proof before they launched the investigations against Clinton?

No. Not that I want to be 'just like them', but accusing first and trying to prove it later obviously didn't hurt their political 'capital' much.
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lovedems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 01:40 PM
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17. Hell, I don't know the best way to handle this.
I am just a 36 year old lady sitting behind a computer. I can't pretend to know the way this should be handled. In the same manner I can't pretend to know what John Kerry is doing.

I am not being an asshole but I can't pretend to have the answers because I don't. I am not even sure of the questions yet.
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 01:52 PM
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20. I am also 36 years old....
and agree with you....I have no idea how this should be handled....I do know we need our facts first before this goes to the mainstreem....
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 01:41 PM
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19. Believe me I wwant it NOW!

If you read any of my posts, I want FRAUD exposed now!!!!

But, in Al's case, if he says it, it's almost like Kerry said it.

I am still holding out hope that there is a reason for the silence.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 03:40 PM
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21. Franken was very close to the campaign and (the biggest reason)
he is so cautious, I think, is that he really does intend to run for MN Senate in 08.

Nonetheless, he has been dirctly representing the campaign as he went around the country for appearances (unrelated to AAR), so I'm sure that makes him cautious. But, yeah, it Pisses me the hell off!
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Ducks In A Row Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 01:24 PM
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11. oh please. There was obvious proof on nov 3rd
he's a whiner and a loser.

he'll never get "enough" proof to make himself feel "safe" enough to report it.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 01:38 PM
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15. Come on Al, just lay it all out there ASAP
Tell the world this thing was rigged!

------------------------------------------------------------
Help expose the election 2004 voter fraud today!
http://www.geocities.com/greenpartyvoter/electionreform.htm
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 01:39 PM
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16. can somebody summarize for the cuberats?
Thanks
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 01:41 PM
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18. Talking about "Bush's Bulge" right now
Al said earlier he 'hated' to talk about election irregularities, though. I don't really have my hopes up...
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JudyM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 04:19 PM
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22. Nothing earth shattering
His MIT PhD elections specialist basically said there wasn't much worth looking at with the issue of exit polls vs actual votes because there's no real science to the exit polling. However, he felt that it was legitimate for folks to question the discrepancies between Democratic registrations and ultimate tallies for Kerry in any counties. He said this would be especially useful where paper ballots were used so that a recount was possible. The discussion then went to callers and not much more analysis of any use was provided. Seemed truncated.
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