The View From 82% Blue Manhattan

[Stephanie]

Is one of shock and rage and grief. What more could we have done?

We have lost more lives, suffered more abuse, lived under constant threat. 9/11 was followed by anthrax and blackouts and constant terror alerts. Then the RNC locked down our city and threw whoever objected in jail. We have been used and abused and we know why and we are FURIOUS.

We have marched as much as we can march and yelled as loud as we can yell. Our lives are literally at stake here in the terror target of the world. We have done everything we can think of to get the message to the ignorant.

And the REDS response? A great big FU.

NYC is in mourning for democracy. What more could we have done?

[GreenPartyVoter]

1. Honestly, nothing short of figuring out how to get the junta

to 'fess up to their crimes.

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Help expose the election 2004 voter fraud today!
http://www.geocities.com/greenpartyvoter/electionreform.htm

[andyhappy]

2. 83% San Franciso

Yep...this is a defeated city. In the following days of nov 2nd I have never seen so many blank vacant stares and slumped shoulders in my life.

On the good side I do not think I have ever felt more proud of living in San Franciso in the 8+ years I have been here! I know it was close all over the place and most states are purple, but I am happy to live in a liberal stronghold that is a strong shade of blue.

I use to think this city was too expensive and now I think it is worth it!

[MadAsHellNewYorker]

3. An e-mail I got in blue manahttan

really is moving...

> > I am writing this letter to the people in the red states in the
> > middle of the country -- the people who voted for George W.
> > Bush. I am writing this
> > letter because I don't think we know each other.
> >
> > So I'll make an introduction. I am a New Yorker who voted for John
> > Kerry.
> > I used to live in California, and if I still lived there, I would
> > vote for Kerry. I used to live in Washington, DC, and if I still
> > lived there, I would vote for Kerry. Kerry won in all three of those
> > regions.
> >
> > Maybe you want to know more about me. Or maybe not; maybe you think
> > you know me already. You think I am some anti-American anarchist
> > because I dislike George W. Bush. You think that I am immoral and
> > anti-family, because I support women's reproductive freedom and gay
> > rights. You think that I am dangerous, and even evil, because I do
> > not abide by your religious beliefs.
> >
> > Maybe you are content to think that, to write me off as a "liberal"
> > -- the dreaded "L" word -- and rejoice that your candidate has
> > triumphed over evil, immoral, anti-American, anti-family people like
> > me.
> > But maybe you are still
> > curious. So here goes: this is who I am.
> >
> > I am a New Yorker. I was here, in my apartment downtown, on
> > September 11th.
> > I watched the Towers burn from the roof of my building. I went
> > inside so that I couldn't see them when they fell. I had friends who
> > were inside. I have a friend who still has nightmares about watching
> > people jump and fall from the Towers. He will never be the same. How
> > many people like him do you know? People that can't sit in a
> > restaurant without plotting an escape route, in case it blows up?
> >
> > I am a worker. I work across the street from the Citigroup Center,
> > which the government told us is a "target" of terrorism.
> > Later, we found out they
> > were relaying very old information, but it was already too late.
> > They had given me bad dreams again. The subway stop near my office
> > was crowded with bomb-sniffing dogs, policemen in heavy protective
> > gear, soldiers. Now, every time I enter or exit my office, all of my
> > possessions are X-rayed to make sure I don't have any weapons. How
> > often are you stopped by a soldier with a bomb-sniffing dog outside
> > your office?
> >
> > I am a neighbor. I have a neighbor who is a 9/11 widow. She has two
> > children. My husband does odd jobs for her now, like building
> > bookshelves.
> > Things her husband should do. He uses her husband's tools, and the
> > two little girls tell him, "Those are our daddy's tools." How many
> > 9/11 widows and orphans do you know? How often do you fill in for
> > their dead loved ones?
> >
> > I am a taxpayer. I worked my butt off to get where I did, and so did
> > my parents. My parents saved and borrowed and sent me to college. I
> > worked my way through graduate school. I won a full tuition
> > scholarship to law school. All for the privilege of working 2,600
> > hours last year. That works out to a 50 hour week, every week,
> > without any vacation days at all. I get to work by 9 am and rarely
> > leave before 9 pm. I eat dinner at my office much more often than I
> > eat dinner at home. My husband and I paid over
> > $70,000 in federal income tax last year. At some
> > point in the future, we
> > will have to pay much more -- once this country faces its deficit
> > and the impossible burden of Social Security. In fact, the areas of
> > the country that supported Kerry -- New York, California, Illinois,
> > Massachusetts -- they are the financial centers of the nation. They
> > are the tax base of this country. How much did you pay, Kansas? How
> > much did you contribute to this government you support, Alabama? How
> > much of this war in Iraq did you pay for?
> >
> > I am a liberal. The funny part is, liberals have this reputation for
> > living in Never-Neverland, being idealists, not being sensible. But
> > let me tell you how I see the world: I see America as one nation in
> > a world of nations.
> > Therefore, I think we should try to get along with other nations. I
> > see that gay people exist. Therefore, I think they should be allowed
> > to exist, and be treated the same as other people. I see ways in
> > which women are not allowed to control their own bodies. Therefore,
> > I think we should give women more control over their bodies. I see
> > that people have awful diseases. Therefore, I think we should enable
> > scientists to try to cure them. I see that we have a Constitution.
> > Therefore, I think it should be
> > upheld. I see that there were no weapons of mass destruction in
> > Iraq.
> > Therefore, I think that Iraq was not an imminent danger to me. It
> > seems so pragmatic to me. How do you see the world? Do you really
> > think voting against gay marriage will keep people from being gay?
> > Would you really prefer that people continue to die from Parkinson's
> > disease? Do you really not care about the Constitutional rights of
> > political detainees? Would you really have supported the war if you
> > knew the truth, or would you have wanted to spend more of our money
> > on health care, job training, terrorism preparedness?
> >
> > I am an American. I have an American flag flying outside my home. I
> > love my home more than anything. I love that I grew up right outside
> > New York City. I first went to the Statue of Liberty with my 5th
> > grade class, and my mom and dad took me to the Empire State Building
> > when I was 8. I love taking the subway to Yankee Stadium. I loved
> > living in Washington DC and going on dates to the Lincoln Memorial.
> > It is because I love this country so much that I argue with my
> > political opponents as much I do.
> >
> > I am not safe. I never feel safe. My in-laws live in a small town in
> > Ohio, and that town has received more federal funding, per capita,
> > for terrorism preparedness than New York City has. I take subways
> > and buses every day. I work in a skyscraper across the street from a
> > "target." I have emergency supplies and a spare pair of sneakers in
> > my desk, in case somethng happens while I'm at work. Do you? How
> > many times a month do you worry that your subway is going to blow
> > up? When you hear sirens on the street, do you run to the window to
> > make sure everything is okay? When you hear an airplane, do you
> > flinch? Do you dread beautiful, blue-skied September days? I don't
> > know a single New Yorker who doesn't spend the month of September on
> > tip-toes, superstitiously praying for rain so we don't have to
> > relive that beautiful, blue-skied day.
> >
> > I am lonely. I feel that we, as a nation, have alienated all our
> > friends and further provoked our enemies. I feel unprotected. Most
> > of all I feel alienated from my fellow citizens, because I don't
> > understand what you are thinking. You voted for a man who started a
> > war in Iraq for no reason, against the wishes of the entire world.
> > You voted for a man whose lack of foresight and inability to plan
> > has led to massive insurgencies in Iraq, where weapons are
> > disappearing into the hands of terrorists. You voted for a man who
> > let Osama Bin Laden escape into the hills of Afghanistan so that he
> > could start that war in Iraq. You voted for a man who doesn't want
> > to let people love who they want to love; doesn't want to let
> > doctors cure their patients; doesn't want to let women rule their
> > destinies. I don't
> > understand why you voted for this man. For me, it
> > is not enough that he is
> > personable; it is not enough that he seems like one of the guys. Why
> > did you vote for him? Why did you elect a man that lied to us in
> > order to convince us to go to war? (Ten years ago you were incensed
> > when our president lied about his sex life; you thought it was an
> > impeachable
> > offense.) Why did you elect a leader who thinks that strength cannot
> > include diplomacy or international cooperaton? Why did you elect a
> > man who did nothing except run away and hide on September 11?
> >
> > Most of all, I am terrified. I mean daily, I am afraid that I will
> > not survive this. I am afraid that I will lose my husband, that I
> > will never have children, that I will never grow old and watch the
> > sunset in a backyard of my own. I am afraid that my career -- which
> > should end with a triumphant and good-natured roast at a retirement
> > party in 2035
> > -- will be cut short by
> > an attack on me and my colleagues, as we sit sending emails and
> > making phone calls one ordinary afternoon. Is your life at stake?
> > Are you terrified?
> >
> > I don't think you are. I don't think you realize what you have done.
> > And if anything happens to me or the people I love, I blame you. I
> > wanted you to know that.
> >

[Stephanie]

10. Thanks, I am sending that out to my list.

That's exactly how I feel.

[MadAsHellNewYorker]

11. PLEASE DO

Send it to EVERYONE....it hits a lot of emotions and feelings in a concise way

[Stephanie]

13. Here's a clean copy minus the >>

I am writing this letter to the people in the red states in the middle of the country -- the people who voted for George W. Bush. I am writing this letter because I don't think we know each other.

So I'll make an introduction. I am a New Yorker who voted for John Kerry. I used to live in California, and if I still lived there, I would vote for Kerry. I used to live in Washington, DC, and if I still lived there, I would vote for Kerry. Kerry won in all three of those regions.

Maybe you want to know more about me. Or maybe not; maybe you think you know me already. You think I am some anti-American anarchist because I dislike George W. Bush. You think that I am immoral and anti-family, because I support women's reproductive freedom and gay rights. You think that I am dangerous, and even evil, because I do not abide by your religious beliefs.

Maybe you are content to think that, to write me off as a "liberal" -- the dreaded "L" word -- and rejoice that your candidate has triumphed over evil, immoral, anti-American, anti-family people like me. But maybe you are still curious. So here goes: this is who I am.

I am a New Yorker. I was here, in my apartment downtown, on September 11th. I watched the Towers burn from the roof of my building. I went inside so that I couldn't see them when they fell. I had friends who were inside. I have a friend who still has nightmares about watching people jump and fall from the Towers. He will never be the same. How many people like him do you know? People that can't sit in a restaurant without plotting an escape route, in case it blows up?

I am a worker. I work across the street from the Citigroup Center, which the government told us is a "target" of terrorism. Later, we found out they were relaying very old information, but it was already too late. They had given me bad dreams again. The subway stop near my office was crowded with bomb-sniffing dogs, policemen in heavy protective gear, soldiers. Now, every time I enter or exit my office, all of my possessions are X-rayed to make sure I don't have any weapons. How often are you stopped by a soldier with a bomb-sniffing dog outside your office?

I am a neighbor. I have a neighbor who is a 9/11 widow. She has two children. My husband does odd jobs for her now, like building bookshelves. Things her husband should do. He uses her husband's tools, and the two little girls tell him, "Those are our daddy's tools." How many 9/11 widows and orphans do you know? How often do you fill in for their dead loved ones?

I am a taxpayer. I worked my butt off to get where I did, and so did my parents. My parents saved and borrowed and sent me to college. I worked my way through graduate school. I won a full tuition scholarship to law school. All for the privilege of working 2,600 hours last year. That works out to a 50 hour week, every week, without any vacation days at all. I get to work by 9 am and rarely leave before 9 pm. I eat dinner at my office much more often than I eat dinner at home. My husband and I paid over $70,000 in federal income tax last year. At some point in the future, we will have to pay much more -- once this country faces its deficit and the impossible burden of Social Security. In fact, the areas of the country that supported Kerry -- New York, California, Illinois, Massachusetts -- they are the financial centers of the nation. They are the tax base of this country. How much did you pay, Kansas? How much did you contribute to this government you support, Alabama? How much of this war in Iraq did you pay for?

I am a liberal. The funny part is, liberals have this reputation for living in Never-Neverland, being idealists, not being sensible. But let me tell you how I see the world: I see America as one nation in a world of nations. Therefore, I think we should try to get along with other nations. I see that gay people exist. Therefore, I think they should be allowed to exist, and be treated the same as other people. I see ways in which women are not allowed to control their own bodies. Therefore, I think we should give women more control over their bodies. I see that people have awful diseases. Therefore, I think we should enable scientists to try to cure them. I see that we have a Constitution. Therefore, I think it should be upheld. I see that there were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Therefore, I think that Iraq was not an imminent danger to me. It seems so pragmatic to me. How do you see the world? Do you really think voting against gay marriage will keep people from being gay? Would you really prefer that people continue to die from Parkinson's disease? Do you really not care about the Constitutional rights of political detainees? Would you really have supported the war if you knew the truth, or would you have wanted to spend more of our money on health care, job training, terrorism preparedness?

I am an American. I have an American flag flying outside my home. I love my home more than anything. I love that I grew up right outside New York City. I first went to the Statue of Liberty with my 5th grade class, and my mom and dad took me to the Empire State Building when I was 8. I love taking the subway to Yankee Stadium. I loved living in Washington DC and going on dates to the Lincoln Memorial. It is because I love this country so much that I argue with my political opponents as much I do.

I am not safe. I never feel safe. My in-laws live in a small town in Ohio, and that town has received more federal funding, per capita, for terrorism preparedness than New York City has. I take subways and buses every day. I work in a skyscraper across the street from a "target." I have emergency supplies and a spare pair of sneakers in my desk, in case somethng happens while I'm at work. Do you? How many times a month do you worry that your subway is going to blow up? When you hear sirens on the street, do you run to the window to make sure everything is okay? When you hear an airplane, do you flinch? Do you dread beautiful, blue-skied September days? I don't know a single New Yorker who doesn't spend the month of September on tip-toes, superstitiously praying for rain so we don't have to relive that beautiful, blue-skied day.

I am lonely. I feel that we, as a nation, have alienated all our friends and further provoked our enemies. I feel unprotected. Most of all I feel alienated from my fellow citizens, because I don't understand what you are thinking. You voted for a man who started a war in Iraq for no reason, against the wishes of the entire world. You voted for a man whose lack of foresight and inability to plan has led to massive insurgencies in Iraq, where weapons are disappearing into the hands of terrorists. You voted for a man who let Osama Bin Laden escape into the hills of Afghanistan so that he could start that war in Iraq. You voted for a man who doesn't want to let people love who they want to love; doesn't want to let doctors cure their patients; doesn't want to let women rule their destinies. I don't understand why you voted for this man. For me, it is not enough that he is personable; it is not enough that he seems like one of the guys. Why did you vote for him? Why did you elect a man that lied to us in order to convince us to go to war? (Ten years ago you were incensed when our president lied about his sex life; you thought it was an impeachable offense.) Why did you elect a leader who thinks that strength cannot include diplomacy or international cooperaton? Why did you elect a man who did nothing except run away and hide on September 11?

Most of all, I am terrified. I mean daily, I am afraid that I will not survive this. I am afraid that I will lose my husband, that I will never have children, that I will never grow old and watch the sunset in a backyard of my own. I am afraid that my career -- which should end with a triumphant and good-natured roast at a retirement party in 2035 -- will be cut short by an attack on me and my colleagues, as we sit sending emails and making phone calls one ordinary afternoon. Is your life at stake? Are you terrified?

I don't think you are. I don't think you realize what you have done. And if anything happens to me or the people I love, I blame you. I wanted you to know that.

[smirkymonkey]

25. I also live and work right near that same target that she

mentions and feel the same exact way. I probably wouldn't have put it quite so kindly, but that letter says it all.

[Stephanie]

26. I sent the letter to a friend who replied

that he'd already gotten the letter and he'd heard that the writer is getting death threats. Which just ices the cake, doesn't it?

*edit - Another friend just replied with this:

Thanks. I'll mail this to my mother. It's nicer than the version I tell her:

If I die in an attack, remember: you killed me.

[MadAsHellNewYorker]

28. WTF?!?!?!?!

Death threats for speaking ones own feelings?!?!??! Talk about FASCISMS

[smirkymonkey]

43. I am getting a sick feeling that we are currently experiencing

the calm before the storm. People are still in a "wait and see" phase, but I think the fallout from this election is going to eventually erupt in more violence. And not just here, but all over the globe.

I hope I am wrong.

I feel like your friend with regard to my family. Their ideology is more important than my safety. It's such an awful feeling.

[Stephanie]

44. I feel if OBL hit us again

the REDS would be happy.

[mainer]

39. Wonderful! Just wonderful! Thanks.

[jjanpundt]

40. Thanks for posting this. It's a beautiful letter.

Sums up a lot of my feelings and my dread of the future.

[BurtWorm]

45. Amen.

Who is the author?

:toast:

[MadAsHellNewYorker]

46. got it from a co-worker

It was a forward...so no "offical" idea...just some e-mail address before the letter

[BurtWorm]

47. I just found out by googling part of it.

According to the blog this appeared on, she's been getting threats because of it.

[Stephanie]

48. That's so fucking typical

This is why the REDS can drop dead as far as I'm concerned. I have no more patience, no more forgiveness, no more sympathy when tornadoes hit their trailer parks.

[BurtWorm]

49. Hear! Hear!

:toast:

[MadAsHellNewYorker]

51. link?

link to the blog this is on?

[BurtWorm]

54. Here

http://www.stephenelliott.com/

[jpak]

4. New Yorkers have to do two things.

Get rid of Pataki.

Get rid of Bloomberg.

and make sure the Chimp is always unwelcome when he comes to town...

[m berst]

5. there is much more we could have done

We could have demanded a campaign that was against the war, for repealing the Patriot act, for repealing NAFTA and WTO, for reigning in multi-national corporations, for universal healthcare.

In other words, we could have insisted that the party take a stand somewhere on something.

We now have one last chance. We are confronted with a stolen election. Will we finally take a stand?

[jzodda]

6. Ill tell you what...

Its not us....the common people, the "man on the street"

Our leaders are the ones who did an aweful job in letting the "reds" portray us as being the immoral ones, or the ones out of touch..

I do not think its the message, its the messengers. The party leaders did a terrible job getting out the message. Who even knows what message they were trying to get out? From day to day Kerry would just attach himself to whatever was in the newspaper. All we need to know is that people in Ohio clearly voted against their economic interests. For that to happen the people whose job it was to get our message out failed..They failed and Terry M needs to be fired first and foremost.


His response to the loss? "well we raised alot of money" BIG FREAKING DEAL TERRY! The money got us nowhere.

[soleft]

7. For me it's not what we did, but what do we do now?

[sjeberling]

8. Better dead than red

Basically the reds said they don't care about the troops, the first responders, teachers, and the rest of the world. They forgot 9/11.

Free America

[incapsulated]

18. "Better dead than red"

I love it, lol! :)

We are well and truly fucked here in NYC.

What else can I say. Kick out Bloomberg and Pataki. This actually will be pretty easy, I think.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

9. i was about to post about this on thursday

new york has not looked so depressed and despondent since 9/11

[Goldmund]

14. So was I!

I've never seen so many people in cafes and bars with their chins propped up against their clenched fists, just staring into the ground and trying to muster a smile...

[emulatorloo]

12. it is not as RED as you might think

Bush has no mandate.

Please look at this voting map by county --- America is bluer than the Bush-Bot talking heads think. . . .

http://www.princeton.edu/~rvdb/JAVA/election2004/

[July]

32. Wow, blue in places I wasn't expecting it.

Heartening to see.

[Beetwasher]

15. Yes, The Rest Of The Country Just Told Us To Fuck Off and Die

and they know damn well they did. On some level they know what they did. They know that they are not at risk because of the insane policies of these disgusting thugs and they know we are and they don't care. They hate NY, they have always hated NY and on some level many of them were quite happy when we were hit the first time and will be happy when we're hit again. They think we deserve it and we're just going to get what we deserve.

[Stephanie]

17. That's how I feel

We marched by the millions and the REDS said "Who cares what you think."

[Beetwasher]

19. It's Quite Ironic Actually

They were happy we were hit and yet used it as an excuse to go on a murderous rampage to avenge us...In some ways I guess they were happy we were hit because we deserved it AND because it gives them an excuse for murderous rampages while they are safely tucked away in Bumfuck, Wherever USA...It's only us minorities, jews, gays, liberals etc. that are going to die so WTF do they care? And they get the excuse to go nuts and murder some of them muslims...

[Stephanie]

22. Also they get to pound around our city like vacationing hippos

and shed a tear at "ground zero" - a term no New Yorker would ever use - and then later take in the B'way version of their favorite Disney movie. They get to indulge their love of death and their love of schmaltz in one weekend vacation. They better not ask me for directions.

[GingerSnaps]

16. All of us in major cities are appalled at what the Rethugs have done to NY

I am sorry for what the Bush Crime Dynasty has done to NY and all of us in large blue cities and states.

I see somber faces as I walk down my city street and the pain your feeling and my neighbors are feeling is a pain that we will never forget.

New York, LA, Chicago and all of the blue states died Tuesday night.

We are afraid and our hands are tied behind our backs right now. I feel like you do but I feel like NY was kicked in the ass.

:hug:

[moondust]

20. Become better bigots?

Join a confederate sympathizers group? Float a trial balloon on reinstating slavery? Yeah, that'll get 'em!


I'm sorry, NY. You deserve much better.

[irancontra]

21. FURIOUS new yorker here. IT WAS FRAUD. Pure & simple.

I don't drink the ever-increasing koolaid.

[northzax]

23. on behalf of 92% Blue DC

we feel you. and it's worth noting that we actually have these assholes living here. well, when they aren't on vacation that is.

Strange town this weekend.

[slappypan]

24. NY is media headquarters

The news media has a lot to answer for. New Yorkers are in an ideal position to hold them accountable each and every day. If you do so, you will speak for many millions of us across the country.

[smirkymonkey]

30. I agree, the media needs to pay for their role in this debacle...

and we New Yorkers are in a perfect position to do that.

[Stephanie]

31. I guess you missed the Fox News Shut-Up-Athon

during the RNC. Wasn't exactly effective.

[K8-EEE]

27. How About When Repukes Say

people not supporting the so called "WOT" as GWB is positioning it "forgot 9/11." Do they honestly think NYC, PA, & DC "forgot??"

Assholes.

[Dancing_Dave]

29. Expose the whole truth about PNAC,9/11, WTC Demolition etc.

If the majority of American knew the truth about PNAC,The 9/11 New Pearl Harbor, Cheney's role, Marvin Bush, Larry Silverstein and WTC Demolition, they wouldn't just all want Bush and Cheney out of office--most folks would want to see them publicly executed like Bush always liked to do to people in Texas!

When the 9/11 Cover-up breaks down in New York City, it will break down everywhere, and the Bush Regime will fall. Otherwise, it's permanent Fascism and Jeb Bush for President in 2008!

[quiet.american]

33. Fantastic letter

The writer is so right about holding one's breath on those beautiful blue September days... and about everything else, too.

Death threats???!!! For what????!!!!

[Stephanie]

35. Don't you get it?

They're the American Taliban. They would stone us to death if they could.

[Skittles]

34. you would have to live in Texas to understand the ignorance here

I feel for you, Stepahanie.

[Stephanie]

36. I feel worse for you.

Ever think about moving? Seriously, I could not bear it. I could not look at those people day after day let alone speak to them.

[Skittles]

37. I feel it is my mission in life to torment conservatives

someone has to do it, ya know?

[Glenda]

56. Let us know about any of your particularly good tormenting tactics

:yourock:

[Chelsea Patriot]

38. Great Post As Always, Neighbor!

Those Dumb Fuck Red State Hillbillies, so vain of their ignorance, have aided and abetted Bin Laden in endangering our lives.

Let's not forget treasonous Fucks like Pataki, Bloomberg, Giuliani and Koch.

A rage of historical proportions is growing here and when it breaks out.....

[Stephanie]

41. Bloomberg is toast

And Giuliani should leave town now.

[Generator]

42. Just heartbreaking

I read your letter, it was so real and honest and heartbreaking as well.

Don't give up. I love New York. I love all that it represents. Imagination, freedom, creativity, work, and most of all people.

I always thought New York the epitome of America, all it's people working together, fighting sometimes, but creating great and new ideas and things.

I don't know what more you could have done. The truth is all we have. That's all we can do-is keep telling our story and hoping someone hears us instead of the propaganda they've been fed.

Jon Stewart pointed out, that those that suffered from terrorism did NOT re-elect this man.

I think it's a big clue, America. Real big.

[yardwork]

50. I live right on the line between two 90% blue counties in NC

so please knock it off with the blue state/red state stuff. My counties are bluer than Manhattan. They're bluer than San Francisco. You think I love being surrounded by Republicans? What's even worse is that I get painted red just because of the way the media displays voting patterns.

It's county by county and neighborhood by neighborhood, not state by state.

Thank you. End of rant.

[Stephanie]

52. I'm not taking orders from you

I'm addressing RED VOTERS, but I feel free to berate RED states as well. I don't give a fuck what they think.

[yardwork]

53. That's extremely helpful.

[Stephanie]

55. Note the thread title

I'm not talking about RED States -

We are 82% blue, you are whatever you are, but I declare war on RED Voters and I am not taking orders.

[blm]

57. Formalize what you just posted and send letters to Southern papers

like the Charlotte Observer, Houston Chronicle, Atlanta Journal and Constitution, et al.

[Stephanie]

58. But you see

I have nothing to say to them, ever. I'm done reaching out. It's over. I want a divorce.

[Stephanie]

59. *America to New York: Drop Dead * -cover of this week's New York Magazine

http://www.nymetro.com/nymetro/news/politics/national/features/10355/index.html



The election was a staggering blow to the city’s self-image and national power (if not exactly to Wall Street).But in our weakness is our strength. Welcome to the capital of the loyal opposition.

Part I
In Bush II, the Only Thing (Well, One of the Only Things) New York Has to Fear Is Fear Itself
BY CHRIS SMITH

Part II
The Gathering Darkness of the Blue State of Mind
BY JAMES ATLAS

Part III
Learning to Live With a Bush Dynasty, in Five Uneasy Stages
BY ANA MARIE COX

Part IV
MoveOn and ACT: A Movement in Search of Its Next Cause
BY ROBERT KOLKER

Part V
What the Democrats Missed at the Populist Revolution
BY THOMAS FRANK