John Fund desperate about DEAN too!!! This just gets better!!

[janx]

Check out this tabloid garbage. Note especially the amount of speculation contained in it, and how Mr. Fund draws his "conclusions." There's absolutely nothing here, but Fund pulls stuff out of thin air...and the WSJ actually publishes it!

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The Anti-Dean
Why Hillary opposes the Democratic front-runner.

Tuesday, September 2, 2003 12:01 a.m. EDT

While Hillary Clinton swears she isn't running for president, she certainly isn't happy about Howard Dean becoming the Democratic frontrunner. The Clintons--along with Terry McAuliffe, their hand-picked chairman of the Democratic National Committee--could become some of the biggest behind-the-scenes obstacles to Mr. Dean's insurgent candidacy.

The fevered speculation last week that Hillary, seeing polls showing softening support for President Bush, just might make a last-minute parachute entry into the 2004 race was based on poor reading of the tea leaves. The evidence was the fact that several e-mail postings on Sen. Hillary Clinton's Web site urged her to run now and the news that she is meeting with political strategists about her future. Then it turned out that the meeting was one of a series she routinely holds and Mrs. Clinton herself told reporters on Friday: "I am absolutely ruling it out."

Some of the media speculation about a Hillary run is generated by potential Democratic candidates who aren't running in 2004. Hank Sheinkopf, a Democratic consultant who worked on President Clinton's 1996 re-election campaign, told the Associated Press "There are those in my party who might like to see her go, so she can get knocked off , opening up a different field in 2008." He added that "so long as she's in the way, anybody who wants to run can't consider it."

Similarly, it's clear that many of allies and supporters of Bill and Hillary Clinton don't want Howard Dean to be the party's 2004 standard bearer. Sen. Evan Bayh of Indiana, chairman of the Democratic Leadership Council, dismissed Mr. Dean's fiery speeches against the Bush White House by asking, "Do we want to vent or to govern?" Al From, the founder of the moderate DLC, was instrumental in promoting Mr. Clinton as a candidate back in 1992. He now says that Mr. Dean belongs to the party's "McGovern-Mondale wing" and that he would repeat their failed candidacies by being swamped in the popular vote. The Clintons may not be keen on a Democrat winning the White House in 2004, but a Bush blowout might weaken the Democratic Party for 2008 when Mrs. Clinton is expected to run.


EDITED BY ADMIN: COPYRIGHT

http://opinionjournal.com/diary/

[janx]

1. This is real junk! Note his use of cliches, on top of all of the

tabloid speculation.

"The fevered speculation last week that Hillary, seeing polls showing softening support for President Bush, just might make a last-minute parachute entry into the 2004 race was based on poor reading of the tea leaves."

[newyawker99]

4. janx

Per DU copyright rules
please post only 4
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Thank you.

NYer99
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[janx]

7. Yessir! Sorry--I posted too fast!

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[meegbear]

2. read the rules ...

4 paragraphs per posting article.

[HFishbine]

3. Great!

"Anti-Bush partisans may be having their joy ride with Howard Dean, but it's clear they are secretly pining for Hillary."

As long as they misunderstand, we have the advantage.

[ibegurpard]

5. I don't know about all the other anti-Bush partisans

but this one hopes that Hillary stays the hell out.

[barbaraann]

6. I hope she stays out, too.

n/t

[janx]

8. She has said over and over again that she has no intention

of running. But the right wingnuts are obsessed with her and love any article that speculates otherwise.

So the wingnut pundits keep writing 'em. It's sort of like end-timers and articles about Armageddon.

[janx]

11. This is true. But it's SO fun to watch!

!!

[UnapologeticLiberal]

13. Not really

I like her a lot but if she jumped in the race now I would still be for Dean.

[Capn Sunshine]

9. Let's face it---for the fundies

Hillary sells papers.

oh, and they SO don't get Howard Dean.

[caledesi]

10. They are in heavy heavy denial about Dean.

Believe me, I have trolled Freeperville. They want to "bring em on."
It is so funny. Yeah, they SO don't get it.

Some there say "Bush will crush him." ROTFLMAO!

I would love to see the first debate with the very plain-spoken, articulate, shoot-from-the-hip-w/-an-Uzi Dean and *.

Bush: "uh, um...er, duh, "

[Sean Reynolds]

12. "Al From, the founder of the moderate DLC" MODERATE? Try CONSERVATIVE!

:eyes:

[otohara]

14. Anti-Bush partisans

may be having their joy ride with Howard Dean, but it's clear they are secretly pining for Hillary. Once they are absolutely convinced she won't answer their calls, I have no doubt many of them will grow tired and skeptical of Mr. Dean. That doesn't mean he can't win the nomination, just that the obstacles blocking his way--including the hostility of Team Clinton--will likely remain.


Hmmmm...I'm not secretly pining for Hilary and don't know too many people who are. Hell, I'd be pining for Al Gore first - but I've given up, he said NO, she says NO.

I support Howard Dean, it will be one hell of a ride when Jr. steps in the ring against Dr. Dean.

[kodi]

15. christ, what tripe. he threw better punches at his girl friend.

the internal inconsistency is profound.

the thesis is that dean is a priori not able to win in 2004, but if so, that leaves 2008 open to a centrist like clinton who can then preach an "i told you so" message. so why would clinton, who is a 21st century avatar of lady macbeth in fund's eyes care if dean lost in 2004 when it opens up 2008 for clinton?

know what, if clinton strongly supported dean, fund would say she is setting him up to lose in 2004 so she can capture the nomination in 2008 with the message that dean was too liberal.

the boy needs to put down his crack pipe, or at least enroll in a basic logics course.

there is such an "otherworldly" mental state with these right wing creepensteins that it is a wonder that their heads don't fall off their shoulders.