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Ms. Clio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 12:22 PM
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Psychologist Oliver James analyses the behaviour of the American president
So George, how do you feel about your mom and dad?


As the alcoholic George Bush approached his 40th birthday in 1986, he had achieved nothing he could call his own. He was all too aware that none of his educational and professional accomplishments would have occured without his father. He felt so low that he did not care if he lived or died. Taking a friend out for a flight in a Cessna aeroplane, it only became apparent he had not flown one before when they nearly crashed on take-off. Narrowly avoiding stalling a few times, they crash-landed and the friend breathed a sigh of relief - only for Bush to rev up the engine and take off again.

Not long afterwards, staring at his vomit-spattered face in the mirror, this dangerously self-destructive man fell to his knees and implored God to help him and became a teetotalling, fundamentalist Christian. David Frum, his speechwriter, described the change: "Sigmund Freud imported the Latin pronoun id to describe the impulsive, carnal, unruly elements of the human personality. Bush's id seems to have been every bit as powerful and destructive as Clinton's id. But sometime in Bush's middle years, his id was captured, shackled and manacled, and locked away."

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A direct and loutish challenge to his father's posh sensibility came aged 25, after he had drunkenly crashed a car. "I hear you're looking for me," he sneered at his father, "do you want to go mano a mano, right here?"

Barbara Bush is described by her closest intimates as prone to "withering stares" and "sharply crystalline" retorts. She is also extremely tough. When he was seven, Bush's younger sister, Robin, died of leukaemia and several independent witnesses say he was very upset by this loss. Barbara claims its effect was exaggerated but nobody could accuse her of overreacting: the day after the funeral, she and her husband were on the golf course."



Much, much more scathing and scary stuff here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1033904,00.html




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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 12:28 PM
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1. I keep saying there is domestic abuse going on in the W.H.

nt
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 12:32 PM
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2. The most scary part of that article:
Edited on Tue Sep-02-03 12:34 PM by truth2power
"As Frum put it: 'Id-control is the basis of Bush's presidency but Bush is a man of fierce anger.' That anger now rules the world."

edit> Changed quotation marks to separate Frum's actual quote.

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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 04:25 PM
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12. And replacing German Citizen's id's with "Heiling Fuehrer's"
was the cornerstone of Nazi psychomaipulation.

Plus a change, plus a la meme chose.
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qb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 12:34 PM
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3. This article is priceless - the mind of a fascist.
A good follow-up to the abnormal psychology of conservatives article.
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Greyskye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 12:37 PM
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4. Explains a lot!
Bush's deep hatred, as well as love, for both his parents explains how he became a reckless rebel with a death wish. He hated his father for putting his whole life in the shade and for emotionally blackmailing him. He hated his mother for physically and mentally badgering him to fulfil her wishes. But the hatred also explains his radical transformation into an authoritarian fundamentalist. By totally identifying with an extreme version of their strict, religion-fuelled beliefs, he jailed his rebellious self. From now on, his unconscious hatred for them was channelled into a fanatical moral crusade to rid the world of evil.

I've got some suggestions for 'ya, Shrubbie! :evilgrin:
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 12:43 PM
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5. Barb & George went golfing the day after their daughter died?!?
Fits with what I'd expect from serious golfers - the GOP official sport.
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JitterbugPerfume Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 12:50 PM
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6. what hard callous people
The day after my son died. I could barely function

those peole are evil incarnate
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never cry wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 04:25 PM
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13. Easy with that broad brush
I love golf. Of course I would never gold the day, or probably month, after a child died.
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 08:13 AM
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19. Yeah, I heard this a while ago......
And to think, the right wingers attack Hilary Clinton for being a bad mother,whatever. :eyes: Uh, look at Barbara Bush. Yikes!
Maybe right wingers long for good mothers who actually LOVE them more than money and a good golf game. I guess that's why they hate Hillary..... :eyes: :evilgrin:
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sattahipdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 01:17 PM
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7. Its Public Be Damned
Bush says he loathes "people who felt guilty about their
lot in life because others were suffering".

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/opinion/content/auto/epaper/editions/tuesday/opinion_f3a4182034bf12bb1041.html
When the Environmental Protection Agency announced that the air at New
York's Ground Zero was "safe" on Sept. 18, 2001, the agency didn't know
what it was talking about. In "consultation" with the White House, EPA news
releases were so heavily dosed with sugar that a firefighter or construction
worker easily could miss warnings buried in them.

Who says so? The EPA's inspector general, Nikki Tinsley. Now she tells us.
For the Sept. 18 statement, the EPA didn't have data on many pollutants; it
had no way to assess how dangerous others were, and one-fourth of its
asbestos samples were above the government's warning line. The agency
issued five statements over the 10 days after the Sept. 11 attack. All were
upbeat but flawed. Significantly, no one in the EPA accepts responsibility -- or
"ownership," as the IG gently put it -- for the candy-coated releases.


http://www.sptimes.com/2002/07/12/NorthPinellas/Public_to_meet__size_.shtml
Boyer was chosen to replace Martin, who resigned in April
after EPA administrator Christine Todd Whitman decided to
move his office under Tinsley's jurisdiction. EPA officials
have said the move was designed to give the ombudsman
more independence and a bigger portfolio, but the move has
drawn fierce criticism from two groups he championed.

One group consists of New Yorkers who live near ground
zero and have been frustrated in efforts to raise concerns
about the environmental hazards posed by the cleanup of the
rubble from the World Trade Centers.


http://www.732-2m2m.com/tt/2003-08_articles.htm
Its Public Be Damned At The EPA

"Short-term, low-level exposure of the type that
might have been produced by the collapse of the World
Trade Center buildings is unlikely to cause significant health
effects," the revised report stated.

Months later EPA scientists would conclude that the dust caused
lung disease in test animals!
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 08:19 AM
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20. 1 computer monitor alone contains 4 LBS of LEAD dust ...IMAGINE
Edited on Wed Sep-03-03 08:31 AM by ElsewheresDaughter
now how many computer monitors were in those buildings at Ground Zero??? also the cadmium, mercury and phospohorus and other dangereous
pollutants
"heavy metals (including lead,mercury, hexavalent chromium and cadmium) and brominatedflame retardants, which are highly toxic to the environment,wildlife and human health, if mismanaged.”

In general, electronic computer equipment is a complicated assembly of more than 1,000 materials, many of which are highly toxic, such as chlorinated and brominated substances, toxic gases, toxic metals, photo-active and biologically active materials, acids, plastics and plastic additives. The list of toxic materials in computer components also includes lead and cadmium in computer circuit boards, lead oxide and barium in computer monitors' cathode ray tubes, mercury in switches and flat screens, and brominated flame retardants on printed circuit boards, cables and plastic casing.

Comprehensive health impacts of the mixtures and material combinations in the products are often not known. The production of semiconductors, printed circuit boards, disk drives and monitors uses particularly hazardous chemicals, and workers in chip manufacturing are reporting cancer clusters, birth defects and miscarriages. In addition, new evidence is revealing that computer recycling employees have high levels of dangerous chemicals in their blood.

http://www.toxicdude.com/getTheFacts.asp

The list of toxic materials in computer components
http://www.svtc.org/hightech_prod/desktop.htm
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 01:45 PM
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8. with all due respect
I believe Dubya's parents were ill-advised after the tragic death of their daughter to carry on as if everything was fine, for the sake of their other children. I think they have said in retrospect they know now it was very bad advice. I dislike Dubya's parents as much as any of us but to accuse them of not loving their chilren is very cruel, however twisted they may be.
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 02:26 PM
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10. "ill-advised"??
One would think that grieving parents would not seek "advice" on how to act following the death of a child. One would think that grieving parents would, well, grieve.

One would think the senior Bushes would know and understand enough about proper behavior (meaning, what to do so no one thinks badly of you) in any and every situation: the death of a child, the death of a spouse, the death of a parent.

I don't think they sought advice; I think they just did what came naturally, just like Awol ignoring his daughter's emergency appendectomy.

They have NO scruples. They really do not care what anyone thinks.

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Flubadubya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 05:13 PM
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14. Well, for those to whom "appearance" is everything...
well... appearance is everything, substance naught.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 02:03 PM
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9. What a character!
Many have commented on these "character flaws" inherent to *.
Scary stuff.

http://globalresearch.ca/articles/STA305A.html

Like father, like son. Prescott-GHWB-*.
http://www.spiritone.com/~gdy52150/bushies.htm

http://falloutshelternews.com/BushHitlerLinks.html
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Coffee Coyote Donating Member (949 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 04:11 PM
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11. HE'S A F***ING SOCIOPATH!!!!
Whew! I love channeling Skittles! :D
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waggawagga Donating Member (128 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 05:32 PM
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15. Naah, Oliver James Gets It Wrong
Bush doesn't have an authoritarian personality. He has a very refined survival instinct which was honed by growing up in his goofy family. I absolutely agree that there's something about him which is just bizarre. Authoritarians try to impose their convictions on others, though. People with this survival instinct have no deep convictions.

What Bush is expert at is figuring out what he needs to do, who he has to listen to, etc., to stay in the game. His determination to go into Iraq came after he figured out that being a "wartime president" was boosting his popularity. This also explains why he and his admnistration have no follow through.

Bush is going to be tough to beat in 2004. The authoritarian model is wrong, it's wishful thinking, because if Bush were like this all the Democrats would have to do is box him in. Watch, he's going to be like Houdini. He's definately beatable, though.
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Clete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 05:39 PM
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16. Good insight into his background and rearing.
And, it is scary that such a person is leading our nation down the primrose path to self-destruction.
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 07:57 AM
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17. It's not a psychologist's analysis that you need to nail Dumbo
a DNA specialist could tell you a whole lot more than any nit-picking over the deeper recesses of an obviously flawed personality running on scared
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 08:04 AM
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18. holy shit! golfing the day after 5/6 year old daughters funeral????WTF???
what a bunch of souless wretched turds!!! the whole damn lot of them!!!
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