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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 04:50 PM
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They're hiding the wounded Americans
Edited on Tue Sep-02-03 05:14 PM by Stevie D
They're not being talked about in the 'liberal' media, that's for sure.

In fact, this story has been given short shrift while the Ministry of Propaganda provides such helpful distractions as:

-Arnold Schwarzennegger. Did he really say that?

-Judge Roy Moore and 300 or so bigots and fools. It's a rock, for crying out loud. 24/7 coverage.

-Madonna kisses Britney and Christina. So what?

-Laci Peterson. 'Nuff said.

Now, it's fair to say that there has been at least some coverage of the deaths of soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan. Keeping this number as low and as understated as possible is the goal of the pResident and most of the complicit Congress.

But what of the wounded? They have lost limbs; they have been disfigured, they have been blinded. Even for those who on the surface appear unscathed, many will suffer psychologically for the rest of their lives. America remains blissfully unaware. What time does the game start?

Going forward, we know from experience that many veterans who return from the horrors of war will never be the same. Our government will do everything in its power to minimize, marginalize and otherwise diminish their plight. Many will be tomorrow's homeless. Many will be abusers and abused citizens. For believing their government, they shall be so rewarded. So shall their families and our society. How will their families be provided for? What is a life worth to our government? Is this the price we are willing to pay for the enrichment of the wealthy few?

To highlight my point, I provide the following...

Exhibit A:

<snip>
Number of Wounded in Action on Rise
Iraq Toll Reflects Medical Advances, Resistance Troops Face

By Vernon Loeb
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, September 2, 2003; Page A01

U.S. battlefield casualties in Iraq are increasing dramatically in the face of continued attacks by remnants of Saddam Hussein's
military and other forces, with almost 10 American troops a day now being officially declared "wounded in action."

The number of those wounded in action, which totals
1,124 since the war began in March, has grown so
large, and attacks have become so commonplace, that
U.S. Central Command usually issues news releases
listing injuries only when the attacks kill one or more
troops. The result is that many injuries go unreported.


The rising number and quickening pace of soldiers
being wounded on the battlefield have been
overshadowed by the number of troops killed since
President Bush declared an end to major combat
operations May 1. But alongside those Americans
killed in action, an even greater toll of battlefield
wounded continues unabated, with an increasing
number being injured through small-arms fire,
rocket-propelled grenades, remote-controlled mines and
what the Pentagon refers to as "improvised explosive
devices."

Indeed, the number of troops wounded in action in Iraq
is now more than twice that of the Persian Gulf War in
1991. The total increased more than 35 percent in
August -- with an average of almost 10 troops a day
injured last month.

Washington Post, September 2, 2003 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A12096-2003Sep1.html

Exhibit B:

<snip>
War casualties overflow
Walter Reed hospital


By Jon Ward
THE WASHINGTON TIMES



Officials at Walter Reed Army Medical Center are
referring some outpatients to nearby hotels because
casualties from operations in Afghanistan and Iraq have
overloaded the hospital's convalescence facility.

"We have an informal agreement with any number of
hotels in the area. If we come to this point, they will take
for us," said Walter Reed spokesman Jim
Stueve. "They're very supportive and cooperative when
we need that assistance." -Washington Times, August 4, 2003 http://www.washtimes.com/metro/20030804-121425-6485r.htm

Exhibit C:

<snip>
Death marches at double in Iraq but US public
unaware

By Julian Borger in Washington
August 5, 2003


United States military casualties in Iraq are running at more than twice the number most
Americans have been led to believe they are.
The public is largely unaware of a high number
of accidents, suicides and other non-combat deaths.

<and>

...unofficial figures put the total in the thousands. Many of the wounded have lost limbs."

source: http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/08/04/1059849347169.html (from almost one month ago)

We deserve better than this. American lives are being ruined at a frightening pace, and the loss of civilian lives and limbs in Iraq and Afghanistan are not even taken into account here.

I'm writing my congressman and senators today to demand an accounting from the *Bush Administration for these wounded. Those of us who have been around long enough to remember the lies of Viet Nam should know that if we do not hold this Radical Right contingent of chickenhawks accountable, the lives and livelihood of our young people will have been lost in vain.

Wanna support the troops? Bring them home!
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 05:05 PM
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1. Most of the very badly wounded are still in the hospitals in Germany...
...they don't get sent back to the states until their condition is upgraded or until they die of their wounds.

The hospitals in Germany are also the arrival point for casualties coming out of Afghanistan, and those numbers are almost completely unknown except for some recent reports.

Even the so-called "Secret War" in Vietnam/Cambodia wasn't this secretive.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 05:08 PM
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2. So, the 1,100+ reported wounded
is likely even more of a lowball number.

There's no way to determine the real number of casualties on either side.

I hate being lied to.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 05:26 PM
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4. StevieD, you live in Imperial Amerika...what did you expect?
Hell, even during the Height of the Old Republic (70s and early 80s), we were probably lied to 50% of the time even still.

But when you get to 80 90 100% lies, as it was with Nazi Germany, the Soviet Union, Marcos' Phillipines, and now, the Amerikan Empire begins to approach these levels...then it gets like "1984".

We were very spoiled to be told the truth 50% of the time during the Height of the Old Republic.

Now, of course, in Amerika that is a dim memory...
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 05:32 PM
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5. Seems like the 'good old days'
Being lied to half the time seems nostalgic now, for sure. Doesn't mean I can't be pissed off about it, while I still can.
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jarab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 05:21 PM
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3. Welcome to
democraticunderground, Media_Lies_Daily.

jarab - DU moderator
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Kellanved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 07:36 PM
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8. Hmm - I read that those hospitals were hardly used during the heat-wave
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 08:40 PM
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12. this makes me wonder....
if they die of their wounds and not in the "field" does their death even count? I can't believe I even have to ask this! :(
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cmd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 07:10 AM
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14. I only hear of the battlefield deaths
Your question is valid.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 05:59 AM
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13. Hi Media_Lies_Daily!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 07:31 PM
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6. kick for night crew
:kick:
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 07:32 PM
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7. Somone posted on here earlier today
about a special CNN is to do tomorrow morning about this very subject.
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fizzana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 07:37 PM
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9. Not a special but it was mentioned as being part of Soledad
O'Brien's morning show. It also mentioned that the Pentagon refuses to acknowledge that on average 10 soldiers a day are being wounded in Iraq.
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revcarol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 07:41 PM
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10. Byrd quoted over 1400 wounded today in his speech,
and if anyone can find out the correct figures, it is Byrd.

The reason many of them have lost limbs is because body armor doesn't cover limbs. So they will have permanent injuries instead of possibly death(by hitting the torso.)But their wounds are terrible, and we have yet to count the Iraqis that we have wounded with our shots and bombs and cluster bombs lying around for children to play with.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 08:33 PM
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11. The human cost is becoming incalculable
Glad to hear that Byrd mentioned it.
:hi:
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 07:53 AM
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15. A friend of mine's father is a retired general with a health plan that
requires treatment at Walter Reed Hospital in D.C. Recently her mother suffered a spinal injury and needed to undergo an MRI as soon as possible. There are so many wounded soldiers at Walter Reed that she couldn't get an appointment for more than a month, so she had to go to another hospital.

Its pretty bad folks. My friend told me that when her mother went to Walter Reed before being told they couldn't do it for some time, she saw lots of amputees from the war.
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