As Democrats, do you generally agree with this statement?

[LoZoccolo]

In keeping with our party's grand tradition, we reaffirm Jefferson's belief in individual liberty and capacity for self-government. We endorse Jackson's credo of equal opportunity for all, special privileges for none. We embrace Roosevelt's thirst for innovation and Kennedy's summons to civic duty. And we intend to carry on Clinton's insistence upon new means to achieve progressive ideals.

We believe that the promise of America is equal opportunity for all and special privilege for none. We believe that economic growth generated in the private sector is the prerequisite for opportunity, and that government's role is to promote growth and to equip Americans with the tools they need to prosper in the New Economy.

We believe that government programs should be grounded in the values most Americans share: work, family, personal responsibility, individual liberty, faith, tolerance, and inclusion.

We believe in community; that we can achieve our individual destinies only if we share a commitment to our national destiny. We believe in an ethic of mutual responsibility in which government has an obligation to create opportunity for citizens, but citizens have an obligation to give something back to the commonwealth.

We believe America has a responsibility to lead the world toward greater political and economic freedom.

We believe that as advocates of activist government, we need to reinvent government so that it is both more responsive and more accountable to those it serves and to the taxpayers who pay for it.

[MisterP]

1. they can talk the talk, but not walk the walk

people say things they don't mean,
and playing gotcha only will demean
http://rightweb.irc-online.org/org/demleadcoun.php

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[LoZoccolo]

3. Care to explain just what this means? n/t

[mia]

4. only a gloating freeper

Are you happy now?

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[LoZoccolo]

6. 37 vs. 5355 - sorry, my dick's bigger than yours.

If this continues, you will not do well here.

[Egalitariat]

7. If there's anything wrong with Democratic Underground, it's the sentiment

that is embodied by this post.

I enjoyed your credo, though. I'll stay in line until I get to 1000+ posts.

[LoZoccolo]

8. Ha I was just fooling around.

I just thought it was funny that someone with very few posts would accuse me of being a FReeper, especially when he might be able to go back and look at a few of mine before he accuses me of that.

Not my credo though...as I'm thinking of revealing soon...

[LoZoccolo]

9. Surprise! This is the New Democrat Credo of the DLC.

http://www.ndol.org/ndol_ci.cfm?kaid=86&subid=194&contentid=3775

I guess I say this because I see a lot of anti-DLC posts which don't really express why people don't like them...it's like people blame them for everything that goes wrong. You might be able to say this or that DLC policy failed (and if you think so, please expound on why and what you'd change so that the rest of us know), but as of now, 93% of you agree with the DLC's essential credo.

I'll also say that the DLC needs to get a sense of tact that I haven't seen from them much. I was supporting Dean back when they put out the statement about activists and all that, and found it bullying and condescending, an effort to quickly extinguish the Dean phenomenon when it should have been guiding and educating us. It did damage to itself and to our party. But that was a matter of presentation and tact, not of purpose, in my estimation. Certainly not enough to demonize them as totally as they've been demonized, in my opinion.

[LoZoccolo]

10. Ha ha ha ha! The "yes" votes stopped rolling in!

Funny.

(Oh fuck.)

[ulysses]

12. yes, we know.

Words are cheap. Look to actions.

[Indiana_Dem]

13. Well I read the Right Web post link and

all I can say is "wow". The DLC sounds like Republican-lite neoconservatism. So that's why Bayh is so Republican-like. I always wondered why he was not like his father. He's adopted the "neo" part. That's pretty scary that both parties are trying to enforce this new philosophy. I think after reading that link, I'd have to say I don't like the DLC and we continue to keep going this way then I will leave the Democratic party.

[sweetheart]

14. I just revisited the thread

and read some other posts... ha. I realize you posted this before
i posted no, and i wasted my time.... i thought the writing was
rather amateurish and disgustingly imperialist. :-) ha!

The DLC must go down. It is unelectable.

[sweetheart]

11. No, here are my edits

We believe that the promise of America is equal opportunity for all and special privilege for none. We believe that economic growth generated in the private sector is a prerequisite for opportunity and that the public sector has a place as well, and that government's role is to defend the borders and prevent undue strife and competition.

We believe that government programs should be grounded in the values most Americans share: work, family, personal responsibility, individual liberty, faith, tolerance, and inclusion.

We believe in community; that we can achieve our individual destinies. We believe in an ethic of mutual responsibility in which government has an obligation to create opportunity for citizens, but citizens have an obligation to give something back to the commonwealth.

We believe America has a responsibility to lead the world toward greater political and economic freedom by example only.

We believe that as advocates of activist government, we need to reinvent government so that it is both more responsive and more accountable to those it serves.

I said "NO" because i will not be party to an imperialist neoliberal
growth adgenda that overlooks individualism for some amorphous
statist adgenda.

This is why i removed references to neoliberal "growth", "We believe
America has a responsibility to lead the world toward greater
political and economic freedom." (veiled imperialism) which is why
i said by example only.
I took this out: "and to the taxpayers who pay for it" as no
special treatment. A democracy gives on special favours to larger
taxpayers.... all are equal... and the phrase is redundant.
The private sector has serious failings, and one need only look at
the gross failings in american healthcare to realize this. I object
to saying that it is the only solution... nope. The public
sector does indeed have a place.


I would add, in order to say "yes" this phrase.

As a measure of the success of civil society, we should benchmark
against these rights: http://www.un.org/Overview/rights.html