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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 11:14 PM
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Outing of CIA operative by Rove resulted in 70 deaths.
Intersting article about how Wilson is raising a stink, Rove is definately the leaker, and if they can connect Bush he's toast. Also, all his wife's people were "liquidated" - 70 people. There is a special law on the books about this and they are in really big trouble over this.


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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 11:20 PM
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1. Whew - I take Al Martin with a grain of salt
but damn I hope this is all true. I'd love to see Rove and AWOL led off in cuffs.
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 11:23 PM
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3. as much as I'd like it to be true
...it sounds a little too tin-foil hattish for me. No backup for 70 assassinations...no backup of documents....too easy to link Rove with Nazi...

too much tinfoil.......
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never cry wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 11:23 PM
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2. I know nothing about Al Martin
and I was taught long ago to always consider the source but if true, this is my wet dream.
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 11:25 PM
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4. Rove has dual citizenship??? Is this common knowledge?
"Karl Rove is, in fact, the grandson of Karl Heinz Roverer, the gauleiter of Mecklenburg, who was also a partner and senior engineer of Roverer Sud-Deutche Ingenieurbüro AG. They built Birchenau, the concentration camp in Nazi Germany." <snip>

"Karl Rove, it should be noted, is a dual citizen of the United States and Germany. Because of his position he has special diplomatic status." <snip>
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 11:28 PM
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6. I've not heard that either
Maybe that's why it's been so difficult to find out anything about him?
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 11:46 PM
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8. Why did I think he blew into a trailer court after a tornado?
Anyone know his real story?
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Clete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 11:55 PM
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10. So he really is a Nazi. Who would have guessed?
:think:
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 11:26 PM
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5. No, Rove's grandpa was not a Gauleiter
though if he were it would explain a lot.

Apparently one Friedrich Hildebrandt was Gauleiter of Mecklenburg most of the time.
http://www.skalman.nu/third-reich/nsdap-gau-mecklenburg.htm

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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 11:51 PM
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9. More on the architects and engineers of Birkenau
The master plan for Birkenau was devised by Karl Bischoff.
The engineering firm that devised the crematoria was Ludwig Topf and Sons; their engineer for the concentration-camp contracts was one Kurt Prüfer.

http://www.history.ucsb.edu/faculty/marcuse/auschwrev.956.htm

Al Martin seems to be shooting blind here.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 11:38 PM
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7. Rove IS a NAZI!
We knew it. The following sounds logical, too:

EXCERPT...

  If there is no public attention, there will be no steam behind it. Some of the congressmen are trying to push this into higher quarters. They’re trying to get Howard Dean to talk about it since he’s getting so much press coverage

      It’s been said that Dean is himself frightened to start talking about it because it would diminish the press coverage he’s been getting. The Bush Administration has let it be known to the Democratic National Committee that any Democrat who tries to push this will find press coverage severely limited.

      When the Democratic presidential selection process filters out (since there are now nine declared Democrats) and when there is one Democrat that everyone is behind, who’s going to be the contender, then they won’t be so frightened.

      But this is a story, which should be more widely known, since the treatment of Ambassador Wilson and his family (not to mention the US intelligence assets who were liquidated overseas) is certainly one of the most egregious abuses of power yet perpetrated by the Bush administration.

CONTINUED...

http://www.almartinraw.com/public/column106.html


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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 12:00 AM
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11. I thought...
...that Wilson went to Niger without pay. This says he was still under contract to State.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 12:10 AM
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12. Al gets some stuff right, enough to be a little scary
but "70 people liquidated"? Perhaps he merely means terminated/fired.

Either way, I would need to hear another source on this one, to put more credence in either case

(though I do believe it was Rove who outed her "as a message")

So, it's a catch-22, because our media has become Corporate TV Pravda and I no longer believe it could uncover something like this unless it was dropped into it's lap. So that old, now archaic saw "well if it happened, then how come it wasn't in the media?" is meaningless. Thus, the weaker the media, the more likely that things like this could be true, in which one strategy is to bully the Democratic Imperial Hopefuls with reduced Puppet Press coverage, then weakening the media...

This is just our first series of what I fear will be many tastes of living in a Soviet-style hypocrisy.
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