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rndmprsn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 08:24 PM
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Words of Wisdom
"Non-cooperation with evil is a sacred duty.

You assist an evil system most effectively by obeying its orders and decrees. An evil system never deserves such allegiance. Allegiance to it means partaking of the evil. A good person will resist an evil system with his or her whole soul..."

Mohandas K Ghandi
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frogbison Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 08:34 PM
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1. Dr. Martin Luther King
"The arc of history is long, but it bends toward justice."


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idiosyncratic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 08:45 PM
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2. I like the quote in your Signature . . . eom.
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rndmprsn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 08:50 PM
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3. LOVE the stevenson quote
made my day =]
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 09:25 PM
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4. Well, I have been restraining myself not to post that it's us
who keep these people in power. If the masses don't do what the asses try to get them to do that they feel is against their better judgement and conscience, they will have no power.

I am hesitant to say this because it borders on calling for a revolution, but really, it's us who keeps Bush and Arnold and the rest of the cockroaches in power by allowing them to rule us.
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zmdem Donating Member (546 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 09:30 PM
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7. The masses do as they please
and why shouldn't they in a republic, democratic in nature ? There will be no revolution, because there is no need for one in a democratic society. For those unhappy with the current governmental situation, there is always next season, just like in baseball. For those in power, well, when you stand at the north pole, any step you take heads southward.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 09:34 PM
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10. This republic isn't democratic in nature anymore.
Even then it was only democratic for certain groups and not others. The Bushistas are pushing it further and further away from the ideals of a democracy. Since no one pays attention to the Constitution anymore including those who are sworn to uphold it, our Republic exists only in name.
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zmdem Donating Member (546 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 10:11 PM
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11. Respectfully , I disagree
In a republic, democracy is always limited, e.g., in our case the first amendmendt limits democracy. As to Bush, oh well, Republicans do sometimes hold office, have since 1860. The republic will survive.
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 09:34 PM
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9. "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible...
will make violent revolution inevitable."
John F. Kennedy, In a speech at the White House, 1962
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checks-n-balances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 09:25 PM
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5. Love the Gandhi quote. Here's another good one from MLK, Jr.
"Nothing is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity. Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than 'goodness' and 'sincerity' placed in a small, closed mind."
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 09:27 PM
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6. These are beautiful quotes.
I try to read Gandhi and King daily.
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 09:33 PM
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8. Assorted quotes
This is my simple religion. There is no need for temples; no need for complicated philosophy. Our own brain, our own heart is our temple; the philosophy is kindness.
-Dalai Lama

Say nothing of my religion. It is known to God and myself alone. Its evidence before the world is to be sought in my life: if it has been honest and dutiful to society the religion which has regulated it cannot be a bad one.
-Thomas Jefferson

In Christianity neither morality nor religion come into contact with reality at any point.
-Friedrich Nietzsche

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"...the government of the United States is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion." --from the Treaty of Tripoli, which was unanimously passed by the U.S. Senate in 1797.
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"History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil government. This marks the lowest grade of ignorance of which their civil as well as religious leaders will always avail themselves for their own purposes." Thomas Jefferson to Alexander von Humboldt, Dec. 6, 1813.
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"The clergy, by getting themselves established by law and engrafted into the machine of government, have been a very formidable engine against the civil and religious rights of man." --Thomas Jefferson
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"It does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are 20 gods, or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg."
--Thomas Jefferson


The Second Coming -WB Yeats

Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.


Our government has kept us in a perpetual state of fear -- kept us in a continuous stampede of patriotic fervor -- with the cry of grave national emergency ... Always there has been some terrible evil to gobble us up if we did not blindly rally behind it by furnishing the exorbitant sums demanded. Yet, in retrospect, these disasters seem never to have happened, seem never to have been quite real.

General Douglas MacArthur, 1957


“I believe that if we had and would keep our dirty, bloody, dollar soaked fingers out of the business of these nations so full of depressed, exploited people, they will arrive at a solution of their own. And if unfortunately their revolution must be of the violent type because the ‘haves’ refuse to share with the ‘have-nots’ by any peaceful method, at least what they get will be their own, and not the American style, which they don’t want, and above all don’t want crammed down their throats by Americans.”

— General David M. Shoup
former U.S. Marine Commandant

Well, the last thing I remember before I stripped and kneeled - Was that trainload of fools bogged down in a magnetic field. - A gypsy with a broken flag and a flashing ring - Said, "Son, this ain't a dream no more, it's the real thing."
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