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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 08:52 PM
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The Real Battle - By Wesley K. Clark 11/14/04, Washington Post Op. Ed.
Edited on Sat Nov-13-04 08:53 PM by Clarkie1
The Washington Post - OUTLOOK
Commentary: Section B-Feature Article
Sunday, November.14.2004.




The Real Battle
by Wesley K. Clark

Americans scouring news reports of the U.S.-led assault on the Iraqi city of Fallujah can be forgiven if they are experiencing a degree of confusion and uncertainty.


Air force Gen. Richard B. Myers, chairman of the Joints Chiefs of Staff, assures us that the U.S. and Iraqi government forces are advancing steadily through the insurgent stronghold and that the assault has been "very, very successful." Yet even as troops move street by street through the Sunni city, the measure of their success is elusive. There's no uniformed enemy force, no headquarters, no central command complex for U.S. troops to occupy and win. At the end, there will be no surrender.


Instead, the outcome of the battle must be judged by a less clear-cut standard: not by the seizure and occupation of ground, but by the impact it has on the political and diplomatic process in Iraq. Its chances for success in that area are highly uncertain. Will Fallujah, like the famous Vietnam village, be the place we destroyed in order to save it? Will the bulk of the insurgents simply scatter to other Iraqi cities? Will we win a tactical victory only to fail in our strategic goal of convincing Iraqis that we are making their country safe for democracy---and specifically for the elections at the end of January?


An attack on Fallujah has been inevitable for many months. If were to succeed in the democratization of Iraq, the interim government and its U.S. and coalition allies must have a "monopoly" on the use of force within the country's borders. There can be no sanctuaries for insurgents and terrorist, no fiefdoms run by private armies. Fallujah could not continue to be a base for those waging war on the Iraqi government and a no-go place for those organizing elections.


Now that we have engaged, there cannot be any doubt about the outcome. It, too, is inevitable. U.S. forces don't "lose" on the battlefield these days. We haven't lost once in Iraq. Nor in Afghanistan. Not in the Balkans, or in the first Gulf War. Nor in Panama. We fight where we are told and win where we fight. We are well trained, disciplines and, when we prepare adequately, exceedingly well equipped. We will take the city, and with relatively few U.S. casualties. And we will have killed a lot of people who were armed and resisting us.

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But in what sense is this "winning?" (pg 2)



To win means not just to occupy the city, but to do so in a way that knocks the local opponent permanently out of the fight, demoralizes broader resistance, and builds legitimacy for U.S. aims, methods and allies. Seen in this way, the battle for Fallujah is not just a matter of shooting. It is part of a larger bargaining process that has included negotiations, threats and staged preparations to pressure insurgent groups into preemptive surrender, to deprive them of popular tolerance and support, and to demonstrate to the Iraqi people and to others that force was used only as a last resort in order to gain increased legitimacy for the interim Iraqi government.


Even the use of force required a further calculus. Had we relentlessly destroyed the city and killed large numbers of innocent civilians,or suffered crippling loses in the fighting, we most certainly would have been judged "losers". And if we can't hold on and prevent the insurgents from infiltrating back in-as has now occurred in the recently "liberated city of Samarra---we also shall have lost.


The Battle plan was tailored to prevent significant destruction. It called for a slow squeeze, starting with the precision srikes against identified targets, and followed by a careful assault directed at taking our the opposition and reoccupying the city, while minimizing civilian and friendly casualties. We have superior mobility, with heavily armored vehicles; we have superior firepower, with the Bradley's 25mm canon, M1A1 Abrams tanks, artillery and air strikes; we have advantages in reconnaissance, with the satellites,, TV-equipped unmanned aerial vehicles and a whole array of electronic gear. But urban combat partially neutralizes each of these advantages. A weaker defender can inflict much punishment with only a meager force fighting from the rubble, provided they fight to the death. So this has not been a "cakewalk." This has been a tough battle, and the mend and women there deserve every Combat Infantryman's Badge, Bronze Star or Purple Heart they receive.


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During the recent presidential campaign, there was a lot of talk about supporting our troops in wartime. And yet calling what's going on in Iraq "war" has distracted us from marshalling the diplomatic and political support our troops need to win.


To a considerable extent, the insurgency in Iraq has been supported by external efforts: Syria's facilitating of passage by jihadists, Iran's eager efforts to reintegrate Shiism and assure the emergence of an Iraqi regime to Tehran's liking, and efforts by some Saudis to reinforce Sunni dominance in Iraq. (on the eve of the battle of Fallujah, one group of 26 Saudi religious scholars urged Iraqis to support the insurgents.)


The success of our military efforts in Iraq is thus directly connected to the skill of U.S. diplomacy in the region. Certainly neither Syria nor Iran could welcome American success in Iraq if they believe it means they'll be next on a lost of regimes to be "reformed" y the United States - and yet that's precisely the goal of American policy. Bringing about change in those countries should be a matter of offering inducements as well as making threats, but not if it adds to the danger for our men and women in uniform.
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We need to choose: continue to project a grand vision, or focus on success in Iraq. Not only for the safety of our troops, but the success of our mission depends on a degree of Syrian and Iranian accommodations for an American-supported, peaceful, stable, democratizing Iraq. And we won't get that support if they think they're next on the hit list.
It is equally important to seek a resolution of the conflict between Israel and the Palestinians, which has fueled the recruiting efforts and determination of the jihadists we're fighting in Iraq.

And then there's the matter of the political struggle inside Iraq. If, despite a high level of chaos, the elections do take place, the Bush administration must be prepared to accept and empower an Iraqi government and a nascent political process with the sufficient independence to win support from the populace and undercut anger at the American troops. For most of the year the effort at political transformation has been submerged beneath the rubric of "reconstruction" and hindered by the attitude that "security" must come first." Security and domestic Iraqi politics go hand in hand.

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A series of circumstances and errors in 2003



Which brings us back to the factors that made last week's battle of Fallujah inevitable: a series of circumstances and errors in 2003 - an initial coalition occupying force too small to achieve dominance over a historically restive population, the lack of a skilled political corps to reorganize the local inhabitants, the proscription of Baathist participation in the early postwar recovery and the disbanding of the Iraqi military. Then there was the aborted April 2004 effort to subdue the city, in which under-strength Marine assault was called off by the White House. A silly plan of turning the city back over to a thrown-together Iraqi force left the enemy in control of the battlefield and turned Fallujah into even more of an insurgent stronghold.


This insurgency has continued to grow, despite U.S. military effectiveness on the ground. While Saddam Hussien's security forces may have always had a plan to resist the occupation, it was the failure of U.S. policy-makes to gain control political legitimacy that enabled the insurgency to grow. And while the failure may have begun with the inability to impose order after Saddam's ouster, it was the broader lack of a political coterie and the tools of the political development - such as the Vietnam program of Civil Operations-Revolutionary Development Support (CORDS) -which seems to have enabled the insurgency to take root amid the U.S. presence. These are the sorts of mistakes the United States must avoid in the future, otherwise the battle of Fallujah may end up being nothing more than the "taking down" of an insurgent stronghold - a battlefield success on the road to a strategic failure.


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Troops are in Fallujah only because of a Political failure.

Troops are in Fallujah only because of a Political failure: Large numbers of Sunnis either wouldn't, or couldn't, participate in the political process and the coming elections. Greater security in Fallujah may move citizens (whenever they return) to take part in the voting; it's too early to say. But it's certain that you can't bomb people into the polling booths.


We should be under no illusions: This is not so much a war as it is and effort to birth a nation. It is past time for the administration to undertake diplomatic efforts in the region and political efforts inside Iraq that are worthy of the risks and burdens born by our men and women in uniform. No one knows better than they do: You cannot win in Iraq simply by killing the opponent. Mush as we honor our troops and pray for their well-being, if diplomacy fails, their sacrifices and even their successes in Fallujah won't be enough.

-General Wesley K. Clark (Ret.)...
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Wright Patman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 09:03 PM
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1. You cannot win
simply by killing the opponent.

Well, we cannot win, then. That's all the U.S. military really knows how to do. To be fair to the homicidal automatons, they have never really argued that that wasn't the case. Their job description is "to kill people and break things."
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 09:18 PM
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6. Wes Clark, who you quote
is one of those "homicidal automatons."

This war was not the miltary's idea; the uniformed people were totally against it. This was a calculated political decision, hatched by people who had never served.

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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 09:53 PM
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11. That's why Clark has always said this can't be a "military victory" alone
He's said this cannot be won solely with military force. The whole point of his article is that the administration needs to do the diplomatic and political work toward a solution. It's not just a military operation where we can fight to a resolution.
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Craig Swieso Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 09:07 PM
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2. Schadenfreude
If the only Americans that were being killed were white boys from Mormon or fundamentalist Christian families that reside in red states, would that be a good thing or a bad thing?
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 09:11 PM
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5. I can't figure out what you mean...??
:wtf:
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 09:25 PM
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8. Aren't you a pleasant sort? Clark "hates America"? Nuke France?
Edited on Sat Nov-13-04 09:25 PM by jefferson_dem
Happy day, man.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 09:53 PM
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12. I assume that's an attempt at humor?
:shrug:
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 09:57 PM
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13. You're kidding, right? Right?
Clark is one of our best.
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aneerkoinos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 10:43 PM
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16. Yeah
That was my sarcastic imitation of "patriotic" American. Too close to the real thing, I see, to be recognised as humour withoug a doubt. Scary times.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 09:10 PM
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4. Is he saying it is the fault of Fallujah that we had to bomb them?
"Troops are in Fallujah only because of a Political failure: Large numbers of Sunnis either wouldn't, or couldn't, participate in the political process and the coming elections. Greater security in Fallujah may move citizens (whenever they return) to take part in the voting; it's too early to say. But it's certain that you can't bomb people into the polling booths. "

What is he saying here? Whose political failure?
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 09:20 PM
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7. The Americans....
He is criticizing the plan from the get-go.

And laying the blame on a lack or failure of diplomacy.
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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 09:28 PM
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9. Monday 10:30 a.m., join online discussion with the General regarding this
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Steven_S Donating Member (810 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 09:30 PM
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10. I think the preceding two paragraphs would answer that question.....
Which brings us back to the factors that made last week's battle of Fallujah inevitable: a series of circumstances and errors in 2003 - an initial coalition occupying force too small to achieve dominance over a historically restive population, the lack of a skilled political corps to reorganize the local inhabitants, the proscription of Baathist participation in the early postwar recovery and the disbanding of the Iraqi military. Then there was the aborted April 2004 effort to subdue the city, in which under-strength Marine assault was called off by the White House. A silly plan of turning the city back over to a thrown-together Iraqi force left the enemy in control of the battlefield and turned Fallujah into even more of an insurgent stronghold.


This insurgency has continued to grow, despite U.S. military effectiveness on the ground. While Saddam Hussien's security forces may have always had a plan to resist the occupation, it was the failure of U.S. policy-makes to gain control political legitimacy that enabled the insurgency to grow. And while the failure may have begun with the inability to impose order after Saddam's ouster, it was the broader lack of a political coterie and the tools of the political development - such as the Vietnam program of Civil Operations-Revolutionary Development Support (CORDS) -which seems to have enabled the insurgency to take root amid the U.S. presence. These are the sorts of mistakes the United States must avoid in the future, otherwise the battle of Fallujah may end up being nothing more than the "taking down" of an insurgent stronghold - a battlefield success on the road to a strategic failure.


I read it to mean it was our failure (Bush Administration)
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 10:11 PM
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14. Way to go General! You tell em!
I love the General. :loveya:
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 10:22 PM
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15. Wes Clark says:
"If were to succeed in the democratization of Iraq, the interim government and its U.S. and coalition allies must have a "monopoly" on the use of force within the country's borders. There can be no sanctuaries for insurgents and terrorist, no fiefdoms run by private armies. " (my bold)


All the credible intelligenc from Afghanistan indicates that the entire countryside is nothing but "fiefdoms run by private armies."

Everytime Karzai or his VP pokes his nose outside Kabul, someone tries to kill him.
I HATE IT WHEN bush* and friends point to Afghanistan and bray "success!"
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aneerkoinos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 10:47 PM
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17. ergo: way to make Iraq success
If Afganistan is success because it's no where near in comparison to Iraq FUBAR, to make Iraq look success Bush needs another no where near in comparison triple-FUBAR. Iran?
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