"Don't insult them!! Don't insult them!!"

[Sparkly]

I just heard David Brooks (on CSpan2) repeating a now-familiar phrase: "Don't insult the Bush voters in those red states!! Don't insult them!!" He went on to explain that although they live in long expanses of dull suburban houses, they're really not dull people. So don't insult them.

Okay. Lots of Democrats and other Liberals grew up in or live in long explanses of dull suburban houses, too. Many go to church. Many might say "moral values" mean a lot to them, and many of those might NOT go to church.

But what really gets me is how acceptable it's become to insult Democrats and Liberals. According to Limbaugh and Coulter and others who've made a fortune out of insulting us, we are the root of all evil in America.

And we come in two main flavors of stereotype: First, there's the welfare queen, parasite, lazy, city-dwelling, check-collecting, baby-producing, crime-committing, drug addicted, disease-spreading scourge of society Liberal Democrat.

And then, there's the intellectual elite, hot-tub soaking, chardonnay-sipping, mansion-owning, wind-surfing, hypocritical, tax-loving, rural-hating, Europe-loving Limousine Liberal Democrat.

Inbetween, we have Hippies, "Feminazi's," "Fags," "Dykes," Satan-worshippers, Terrorist sympathizers, Peaceniks, Communists, Marxists, troop-haters, and of course, the dreaded Massachussetts Liberals. And these are just off the top of my head -- I'm sure you can think of more.

And they're lecturing US not to insult Republicans????

[Cha]

1. I insult their stupidity and

willfull ignorance..not where or what they live in.

Stupid Freepers!

[jdj]

25. and they are too dull people.

[RebelYell]

2. I had the bad luck of having Jehovah Witnesses knock on my door this AM

I asked each one of them who they voted for. They all answered, "President Bush".

I told them to stop peddling Jesus, because he wouldn't approve. One of the women spit on me.

[Sparkly]

6. Unbelievable!!!

I guess that's what they think Jesus would do...? :shrug:

[peekaloo]

12. Seriously? She spit on you? Ye halt to witness, Jehovah's spitness.

[MnFats]

17. you should call the local Kingdom Hall and complain....

....or better yet, the cops. most communities have license=to-solicit ordinances and I'll bet something like this could get theirs revoked....

[RebelYell]

22. I got their license number

I called the police, they wanted to know if I wanted to file trespassing charges, which involved in going downtown on Monday and waiting all day in the prosector's office.

I declined. Instead, I put a "No Soliciting for Jesus" note on my door.

[Contrary1]

60. A little off original topic,

but my nephew and his two roomies repeatedly told
the witnesses that they were not interested, and
not to come back, but they kept on knocking...

Until the day the 3 of them answered the door clad
only in their underwear and holding their pet snakes.

No note needed.

[Catherine Vincent]

78. If they spat on you, I would have thrown something at them or

spat back at them. Why did you let them get away with that? (if they did spit on you)

[tsuki]

24. Oh that's a well reasoned response.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

31. They were at my front door this morning, too.

I told them I was a Kerry voting liberal and that they were baby killers. I then told them to leave my property immediately as I did not associate with killers. I closed the door on their shocked faces.

They didn't even leave me a little brochure. :)

[tblue37]

55. My sister is a JW.

But she is sane and a Dem.

Usually when proselytizers of any stripe come around, I tell them I won't discuss religion with anyone who knows less about it than I do, and then I hand them a reading list and say, "You may come back if and when you have read all these books."

But sometimes in the summer, when it is really, really hot, I will be sitting outside on the porch with my cats and a proselytizer will come by--sometimes two or three at once.

When they do, I nab 'em. I won't let them talk religion at all, but I start chatting them up about this, that, and everything I can think of. Always they are in church clothes (hot, stuffy outfits, you know), and I can see the sweat pouring down their faces and soaking their armpits. But I stay all nice and friendly and insist on chatting away and chatting away. So far my record is 1 hour and 40 minutes.

I love tying them up like that in the 95-100 degree heat of a Kansas summer. If I am out there with my cats anyway, I am prepared for the heat. Also, I am not dressed in nylons an high heels or in a jacket and tie--and they are.

The ones I do that to never come back. Can't imagine why, when I seem so darned friendly.

Heh heh heh.

[NuttyFluffers]

69. you are my new personal hero

i would love to sit on the porch with you and tie up those poor suckers. oh how i love a good conversation...

[Cha]

32. NO Shit?!

I always thought they were suppose to be so nice and I heard they weren't to be involved in politics?

[forgethell]

33. Must have been some other sect

Jehovah's Witnesses DO NOT VOTE.

[RebelYell]

35. They were offering Watchtower n/t

[forgethell]

41. Well, I've

known a few JW's that committed adultery, too. But, they are supposed to avoid voitng, saying the pledge, blood, etc.

My grandmother was a JW, and I had many, many discussions with her There were even candy bars she wouldn't eat because the lethicin was made from animal blood instead of soybeans, or something like that.

[NavyDem]

57. What ever happened to turning the other cheek...

If anyone spit on me under any circumstances, I would leave them a blood mess of flesh on the ground.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

61. Actually.......

...mentioning Jesus was probably what pissed them off, considering they don't believe in him.....

And no, JW's are supposed to have no part of any earthly thing such as voting, holiday celebrations, birthdays, etc......

[Occulus]

62. potential biological weapon there

Seriously. It's considered an attack if you do it to an officer, or a judge, and for precisely that reason; you don't ever know what's in someone's mouth.

Let someone try that on me. I do own handcuffs, and they would find themselves in them pending a 911 call. And yes, I'd happily go to jail for doing so. My life is worth a bit of time in the slammer.

That goes for preemptive wars as well, by the way :)

[Clark2008]

65. Blue voter in a red state

I can't stand to go to church anymore so I "homeSundayschool" my son.

The Mormons knocked on my door once at 9 p.m. as I was taking my son to put him to bed.

After chiding them for not "morally valuing" the lateness of the hour in suburban East Tennessee, I asked what they wanted. The start their spiel and I hold up a hand and say, "We don't need this. I know you have to do it, but it's past my son's bedtime. We have to go."

They ask if they can hand me a tract and I say, "Sure." They hand it over and there's a fairly decent depiction of Jesus on the front (he's actually brown-haired and olive complected in this one). My son takes it and says, "Oh. This is Jesus. Do you know that Jesus died for your sins? His birthday is Christmas, but that's not his birthday, it's when we celebrate it. He died on Good Friday, rose from the grave three days later and that's Easter. Why are you out so late instead of being with your family and and saying your prayers? Jesus would like you to be with your family instead of outside in this cold"

I looked at them and said, "As you can see, your service isn't needed here," and shut the door.

Oh - my son was 4 years old at the time.

[DemBones DemBones]

72. Jehovah's Witnesses do NOT vote. Something is wrong with this

story.

[sherilocks]

79. Do Jevohvah Witnesses vote?

Do I have the wrong sect? Or did they get special dispensation to vote for the chimp?

[Maat]

3. I certainly feel free to tell them how I feel.

Especially the Oklahomans that are my relatives.

And - to my relatives ... don't blame me. I voted for the Kerry/Edwards ticket.

And, your point is well-taken. I refuse to listen to their nonsense any longer.

My goal for the foreseeable future is to be polite to all Bush-voters. It has been difficult, and I'm struggling ...

[Swede]

4. Bush supporters are uninformed.

You know, morans.

[Stinky The Clown]

5. You forgot the recent resurrection of "hippie"

Talk about retro ........

[RebelYell]

8. Speaking of Hippie.....

I wonder how many of today's Repugs were marching for peace in 1969. Phony sell outs.

[Sparkly]

10. Did not

:P

[peekaloo]

7. That guy irritates me with his nervous laughter and manic sputterings

so I'd rather insult him. Stupid, fascist ass kissing bastid! }(

[Straight Shooter]

9. If anyone chooses to insult me, I do not turn the other cheek

I might turn both cheeks and moon them, but the point being I'll insult them as I see fit.

[Sparkly]

11. I'm sure that'd send them running for the smelling salts

It gets me how they give us so much free "advice" on manners -- no matter what they do or say, one swear word from a Democrat, one hint of "Bush-bashing," one iota of "anger," and they start acting like shocked white-gloved ladies at a tea party, gasping and swooning.

I think it's an act to keep us quiet.

[Straight Shooter]

38. Maybe they need to talk to georgie about "manners"

"major league asshole"

"fuck Saddam, we're taking him out"

What do you and your dad talk about?
"Pussy."

Yes, they worship a real class act, and I suspect those white gloves are covered with little buggers and dingleberries.

[mitchum]

40. "Sometimes turning the other cheek means breaking the other...

guy's jaw"
good and wise advice from Malcolm X

[Aunt Anti-bush]

13. The Bush voters insulted ME so I'll insult them if I want to.

eom

[NightTrain]

14. FUCK DAVID BROOKS!!!

I'll insult those evil pieces of white shit as much as I want. If Brooks doesn't like it, he can eat my shorts.

[proudbluestater]

18. Well, we've been POLITE all this election season

Where has it got us? Why weren't the Demos calling that names that needed to be called, right-wing radicals, fascists, bigots, liars? How far did politeness get us?

It's like fighting Satan with a feather duster.

[immoderate]

15. To describe them is to insult them.

They can't take the truth!

--IMM

[Cha]

34. Never could, never will!

Well said!

[iamsofnsorry]

16. Wouldnt be fair in my opinion

they call Kerry a traitor.
they call Edwards a ambulance chaser.
they call liberals pinko commies
they call... etc etc etc etc

But we cant call them inbred hicks?

Thats not fair at all.

I think us not playing as dirty as them is a reason for the loss.

Kerry should have attacked like a madman.

Fuck this author

[Old and In the Way]

19. Like David Brooks, the ultimate insider, has any clue what anyone

is thinking outside his little ivory castle.

But, actually, this is part of the Republican plan to divide America with the concerted help with media mouthpieces, like Brooks. They must keep playing up the "Red vs. Blue" angle. They have no evidence of systematic insulting by Democrats....but they will continue to make this case, ad nauseum, from here on out. They must keep the Republican base convinced the enemy is the Democrats....otherwise, the Republican leadership would be held accountable for the damage they are doing to this country and the 98% who do not benefit from the current Republican agenda.

[DeepModem Mom]

37. I actually think Brooks is an outsider --

a laughing-stock in the halls of the New York Times because his work is so poor. I think he's a nerdy, insecure guy, who sold his soul to the Right for the money to become a Somebody -- but because, IMO, he doesn't believe a word he says, his columns are risible, and he's still far short of the man he dreamed of being.

(He should have stuck with writing his books, which I find rather entertaining, and sometimes quite perceptive.)

[mitchum]

42. You're both right...

Brooks is like the shopgirl with her nose pressed against the glass at the Ritz who thinks that her reflection is actually herself looking out

[DeepModem Mom]

43. Very good!

[mitchum]

45. Thanks!

I was afraid it may have been a little clunky at this late and...uh...altered hour. But I guess the gist (Now that IS clunky!) came through :)

[Boosterman]

46. Exactly.

And unfortunately the insults are aiding that perception. This website is getting mentioned by a lot of conservative shows now.

[tedoll78]

20. I insult them.

Slack-jawed ignorant sister-fuckin' know-nothin' non-readin' mouth-breathin' non-thinkin' IDIOTS.

Their states have:
- higher divorce rates
- lower scholastic performance scores
- lower literacy rates
- lower IQs
- fewer terrorist targets
- generally less-educated workforces
- higher teen pregnancy rates

And yet they deserve to be protected from mockery - while the largely more INTELLIGENT folks from Blue America are ripe targets?

And yet they insist that the whole of America be dragged-down to their retarded standard of living?

FUCK that! Red State Red Voters deserve every bit of contempt and ridicule that we can muster.

There's a lesson that they refuse to learn: when you vote for the Retarded Party, you get Retarded Results.

(And BTW: Red State Blue Voters deserve every bit of support we can give them. They are Beacons of Strength in seas of ignorance!)

[crispini]

23. As a red state blue voter, THANK YOU!

You don't know how much I want to move to California, especially now.

But I have ties here... and I view it as my opportunity to engage in dialog and try to win over hearts & minds! :D

[tedoll78]

29. I'm a Red State Blue as well.

Here in Texas. I have family in Louisiana that I'll be moving towards in a few years, so I'm stuck with that status.. in theory.. :hi:

[MnFats]

30. Hey Crisp, didja ever get that thing off your roof?

or even figure out what it was????
(if you don't remember what I'm talking about I will be hugely embarrassed.)

[crispini]

44. Naw, it's up there again tonight.

I'm getting kind of used to it. I guess the freaky factor of anything wears off if it keep coming back. Current theory: possum. It sounds larger than a rat.

I'm off for a smoke... if I see anything, I'll report back! :D

[Left Is Write]

64. I'm a red state blue voter as well.

I've been trapped in Idaho for four years. I am desperately wanting to move back to my homestate of Minnesota.

[Clark2008]

68. Another blue voter in a red state!

Ironic, Crispini... we both love Keith... we both vote blue in red states and we're both cool chicks! :D

That was lame, but it's 3 a.m.!

Anyway, thanks to those who see us as beacons of light! We are and we're really trying!

[American Tragedy]

71. Thank you!

I am one of those red state blues and proud of it.

Although, it is really not as hard as some people imagine, especially living in a southern city, where there remains a fair amount of solidarity for misfits. Personally, I thrive on conflict.

[SammyWinstonJack]

81. Thanks for that!

:-) A Red State Blue Voter. I would leave if I could.

[Downtown Hound]

21. I'm going to call these people what they are

Stupid, fascist, war criminal, hypocritical, religious ass holes. And I'm not going to apologize to them, David Brooks, or anyone else.

[countmyvote4real]

26. That WE live and breath insults THEM.

I'm personally not offended by THEM, but I find THEIR policies abhorrent.

[leesa]

27. I will insult Bush supporters anywhere. They are idiots!

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

28. Since I'm a decadent, anti-American, Jesus-hating plague on the universe,

I guess insulting Republicans won't bring me down any farther. So here goes:

White trash.
Hypocrites.
Haters.
Idiots.
Morons.
Imbeciles.
Pompous fuckwits.
Greedheads.
Bible bangers, Jesus freaks, God-botherers.
Whited sepulchres.
Assholes.
Troglodytes.
Knuckle-draggers.
Mouth-breathers.
Neanderthals.
Flat-earthers.
Bigots.

Just for starters...

[Sleepysage]

36. It's all part and parcel

...to the characterization that only suburban, Bush-lovin' whites are "normal." Everyone else is, apparently, inauthentic.

It's rubbish and anyone who believes it is rubbish, too.

[mitchum]

39. FUCK DAVID BROOKS AND THOSE REDNECKS IN POLO SHIRTS!

"Sometimes turning the other cheek means breaking the other guy's jaw" Malcolm X

[bvar22]

47. Stealing money from our children....

...IS a Republican Value!

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

48. Hey Brooksie

I'll insult them all I like, those red state bush voters. They surround me and I can attest to it: they ARE dull. And that's the BEST thing I can say about them.

Oh and Brooksie? Fuck you.

[0rganism]

49. It's funny, ya know, if we don't insult them, they call us wimps

Look at the TV they watch, listen to the radio they hear, and what is it? It's wall-to-wall Lib-bashing. They do it constantly, they enjoy it, and they take it as a sign of weakness that we don't.

From now on, we should be on the offensive. The nice thing is, we don't have to lie to trash their heros.

[Baja Margie]

50. I insult them

and it feels really good.

[Obviousman]

51. once the bush voters start saying it was OBL

who attacked us, then ill stop calling them stupid

[itsrainingkarma]

52. I actually think David Brooks is right...

I mean, would you make fun of retarded (not a politically correct term, I picked up bad habits from Hannity- Political Correctness has made this country into a bunch of whiney sycophants... haahah he's so stupid) people? Of course not. And what is a Republican if not a drooling, mentally deficient, automiton who's only purpose is to breed and promote incompetence in all.

Which is a nice seqway into a funny story I saw about Georgia putting on their Science textbooks, "Evolution is a theory, not a fact." HAHAHAHA... ass backwards is the only way to describe the south.

[DemBones DemBones]

73. So explain why they teach creationism in Michigan. . . eom

[mitchum]

75. And in Dover, Pennsylvania

stupidity is not bound by regional constraints

[democratreformed]

53. For three years, I have felt like I didn't belong in my own country.

Their little mantra of "if you don't support the war, you're unpatriotic and un-American" caused a lot of grief. For three years, we were mocked and ridiculed for our beliefs. During the heat of the election, we were mocked and ridiculed for every single cause we championed.

AND, NOW, I AM SUPPOSED TO CARE ABOUT THEM AND THEIR FEELINGS???? I THINK NOT!!!!!!!!!

[fshrink]

54. Insulting them is healthy and historically necessary.

They are an enormous and amorphous mass of uneducated, mentally unstable cowards. They are, like their duce, a shame to the human species. They deserve to be despised, ridiculed and exposed.

[gratefull4u]

56. My feelings exactly!

When Pat Buchanan gave his speech at the Republican convention in 92 the media was amazed at the harsh tone. The cultural war was "not America" they blamed this right wing nutty talk as the reason for pappy * loss. Now we are supposed to think everything is just peachy with these ignorant nuts.

[Left Is Write]

58. I think it's funny...

that they use the word "liberal" as a pejorative. They think they're being insulting with that word, or other heinous adjectives such as "socialist," but I'm left to wonder: just HOW long has the word liberal been an insult anyway? Seems as though it's been so for quite a while.

(And by most conservative descriptions, I should be one of them - I live in a newish house in a newish subdivision in a conservative city, have given up gainful employment in order to stay home with my kids, attend church, teach Sunday school, drive a newish minivan, and cart three kids around to schools and activities. I look just like a could be a "security mom." But no. I'm a lefty liberal. I must really confound them.)

[Contrary1]

59. Self-delete

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

63. More proof........

.....we are expected to bend over and take it from the hate mongers of the right.....and America buys in to the publicity machine they have going.

[Gemini Cat]

66. How utterly stupid.

I'll say what I want to say, when I want to say it.

When these nasty moronic assholes (like Coulter or Robinson and so on) are allowed to call me names, or even call for my death, then the least I can do is insult them. The same goes for the rest of their inbred, over fed, idiotic sons of bitching followers. How dare anyone tell me differently.

Sorry, I don't own a pair of fucking white gloves.

[kazlab67]

67. It is hard not to insult.

If you talk to a diehard Republican for more than one minute the urge to insult rises exponentially.

The word Dinosaur will now be known as Jesus Horse

[mitchum]

76. "Jesus Horse"...I love it!

nice work :)

[shockra]

70. David Brooks makes my head want to explode

I used to watch Brooks and Shields on the Lehrer News Hour during the primaries, and feel pain. That guy pisses me off worse than O'Reilly, Limbaugh, or ANYone. He would a few things that were straining to almost half-way make sense and then <kaboom> the stupidest thing anyone ever said would come out of his mouth. And it would happen again, and again.

I swear I felt a mushroom cloud forming over my head every time he would suddenly take leave of any known reality. My synapses would spontaneously tie themselves in knots and self-destruct.

Fortunately, I read ATTACK POODLES recently by James Wolcott who takes Brooks apart quite accurately, and humorously. It felt so good to see that he drives someone else besides me crazy for good reason.

[Keirsey]

74. Brooks on Brooks

Buckley worries that, somewhere, someone is more prolific than he. He even knows who that someone is: David Brooks, New York Times columnist, book writer, magazine contributor, and PBS talking head. "He's in every issue of The Atlantic Monthly, then he's on the TV show, and he gives speeches on the side," says Buckley, sounding overmatched. "I'd like to know what he's on."

Returning my call from a taxicab -- "I'm just finishing off a piece right here," he jokes -- Brooks is a tad sensitive about his Stakhanovite literary output. "I'm slightly embarrassed," he admits. "It suggests a high level of hackdom." So what is he taking? "Nothing chemical, it's mostly psychological," he explains. "I would explain my high productivity by my desperate loneliness and my pathetic sadness that causes me work to extreme lengths to fill the hollow void that is my life."

http://www.boston.com/ae/books/articles/2004/08/31/the_dope_on_prolific_writers/

[Is It Fascism Yet]

77. Yeah, the reps are mighty thin skinned for the vitriolic assholes they are

[Isere]

80. The right wing has been insulting us for years!

I agree with your post entirely! It's time we fought back and started throttling them for all the bile they throw at us on Limbaugh, Hannity, et. al.

As for not insulting the red states, I can tell you that I am no longer going to insult them with any of my blue money!

I am boycotting anything that I know comes from a red state! No more Kentucky bourbon, no more Texas fruitcake or Georgia pecans. No more Idaho potatoes.
No more trips to red states. No more nothing!

p.s. Don't buy Molson beer any more! It is now owned by Coors.