FullCountNotRecount
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Sun Nov-14-04 04:54 PM
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Kerry, Soros, MM, Moveon, STAY OUT! We citizens will audit vote... |
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with our pennies and nickels. We don't need the media focusing this on you. This is about grassroots democracy. We don't need a millionaire or billionaire coming to our rescue.
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Sun Nov-14-04 05:02 PM
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I say we need all the help we can get.
do you have any idea how FEW citizens care about this?
Besides it is really unfair to lump moveon in with Kerry and Soros since it's an organization that helps me, and others, with little money and time on our hands to participate in the political process.
Go on and have your bakesale and lemonade stand but don't you speak for me. I welcome the rich and powerful using their resources responsibly.
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FullCountNotRecount
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Sun Nov-14-04 05:10 PM
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3. Kind sir, I think it helps our democracy if we do this on our own... |
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and we always speak for ourselves. The media can call us conspiracy theorists but the paper trail doesn't lie. It only costs 110,000 to count the votes in Ohio...we can come up with that. Why bring phony distractions into this controversy?
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Sun Nov-14-04 05:14 PM
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First Kerry's a bitch because he's not visible. Now he's a bitch if he tries to step in, however discreetly.
No respect, I tell ya!
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Sun Nov-14-04 05:51 PM
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7. Just remember, y'all... |
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No good deed goes unpunished.
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Sun Nov-14-04 05:53 PM
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10. Did he try to step in?? |
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That would give me a bit of hope. I welcome help from anyone right now.
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LittleClarkie
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Mon Nov-15-04 12:45 AM
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19. Well, his lawyers are on the prowl in Ohio |
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I don't know if they'll find anything useful in a court of law, but the fact that they are there looking over a few shoulders can't hurt.
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Sun Nov-14-04 05:09 PM
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2. We "citizens" have no power. |
FullCountNotRecount
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Sun Nov-14-04 05:17 PM
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5. It only costs $10 and 5 citizens to request a OH Recount. |
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So you say we have no power. We can stand by the vote counters in NM and make sure they are doing their job correctly. That is power.
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Sun Nov-14-04 05:57 PM
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That is for propositions only. Read the law. Only a losing candidate can request a recount.
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Sun Nov-14-04 07:55 PM
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16. Can a "conceded" candidate request a recount? |
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Sun Nov-14-04 09:26 PM
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17. Probably, If they lost! |
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Mon Nov-15-04 02:53 AM
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22. Concession has no legal ramifications |
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Sun Nov-14-04 05:51 PM
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8. Full on mass boycotting the repukes is our power. |
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Edited on Sun Nov-14-04 05:51 PM by Zorra
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Sun Nov-14-04 05:35 PM
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6. Like #1 above, I think we need all the help we can get |
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for all the obvious reasons.
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Sun Nov-14-04 06:52 PM
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14. Not silly, obstructionist. We need all attention we can get. |
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This is a government accountability problem - not some who gets the credit beauty pageant - and depriving us of visibility won't help. Bye-bye elections!
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Mon Nov-15-04 03:08 AM
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24. I meant telling MoveOn, Soros, et. al. to stay out is silly. |
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Sun Nov-14-04 06:21 PM
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12. Er- arent those people you listed citizens? Many DUers are Move on members |
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They are at least partially funded by citizens...
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Sun Nov-14-04 06:53 PM
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15. Ha!ha! Bingo - agenda is showing - Soros, Moveon - only MM is missing |
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from this "Trifecta of evil" freeper BS!
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Sun Nov-14-04 06:24 PM
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13. Sure, let's let Nader& shady characters make hey out of this |
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It's not like it's a national emergency that a 3rd election in a row is stolen....
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Eric J in MN
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Sun Nov-14-04 09:55 PM
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18. Are you against MoveOn.org putting "Investigate the Vote" |
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on its frontpage? www.moveon.org From MoveOn: Questions are swirling around whether the election was conducted honestly or not. We need to know — was it or wasn't it? If people were wrongly prevented from voting, or if legitimate votes were mis-counted or not counted at all, we need to know so the wrongdoers can be held accountable, and so we can prevent this from happening again.
Members of Congress are demanding an investigation to answer this question. The decision on whether or not there will be an investigation could come as soon as Monday. Join us in supporting the call for one now.
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Mon Nov-15-04 12:51 AM
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20. Without them, we will be relegated to the same corner |
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as UFO researchers, Elvis-sighting witnesses and miscellaneous conspiracy nuts.
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Mon Nov-15-04 12:55 AM
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21. I'm left with newbie angst again |
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someone who hasn't been here long telling us not to see resources that we will likely need on the basis of some sort of ideal of grassroots purity.
Stranger and stranger.
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Mon Nov-15-04 02:59 AM
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23. Sounds like cutting one's nose off to spite one's face... |
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If they want to help, more power to them!
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